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Campus Rape Episode Critics Missing the Point?


The one thing that I keep seeing missing from every negative review of the rape subplot "Oh Shenandoah" is acknowledgment of the line between personal morality and professional ethics. Perhaps this comes from my background in law -- an attorney's code of ethics makes us unpopular because we're required by the Bar to separate personal morals from professional ethics in most circumstances. To me, this seems to be why people are so quick to demonize Don's character and Sorkin as a writer. I imagine a journalist of the old school would be required to exhibit a degree of ethical objectivity as well.

Sorkin tried to portray Don as personally believing Mary. I think that much is clear. I don't believe he would have told her not to appear on the show otherwise. But the comparison to the court of public opinion and the court of law is applicable here, and critics seem to be missing it entirely. We all know the numbers regarding how many alleged victims of rape are truthful (overwhelmingly, they are telling the truth). If I were criminal defense attorney, I could have a reasonable belief a client is lying to me, but would have an ethical duty to represent him or her, unless I possess actual knowledge of it, in which case I could withdraw. Perhaps a client comes in, and my own beliefs conflict with my ability to zealously advocate for him/her: I would be within my right to decline representation. A judge could have certain prejudices but would (theoretically) have to presume innocence on a criminal defendant nonetheless. Perhaps this is a defendant with a long, infamous, repetitive history. The scales of justice (to be quite realistic) always start out tipping in favor of the defendant. At least that's how it's supposed to be.

Why should a journalist like Don be treated differently?

If anything, the victim and defendant are being broadcast to a court of public opinion -- a wider forum, and frankly: a mob with no jury instructions, rules of evidence, etc. In court, it's the Plaintiff who has the initial burden of proving his/her claim. And if Don's profession mandates that he assign a journalist to ask Mary to provide evidence on the air to prove her claim, that would conflict with Don's personal, moral conviction that Mary is telling the truth.

It seems to me that most people are misunderstanding Don's line "I'm obligated to believe" the accused. You take it at face value without understanding the moral and ethical subtext. Identifying this as "mansplaining" ignores the ethical dilemma. If he personally believed the alleged rapist, I don't think he would have told her not to appear on the show.

People are bothered that Don is basically advocating for Mary to abdicate what one avenue of justice she thinks she has: the website. They're right to be bothered. But it's an imperfect and dangerous form of justice just like our actual legal system. It would be "quixotic" to expect Don to put forward a better, foolproof form of justice for Mary, but I don't think that's the point. I don't think Sorkin intended to propose a solution to a complicated problem, but to highlight the dilemma that a privately, morally sympathetic individual must face when he must wear the hat of an objective, ethical journalist.

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I doubt they all missed the point for most of them the opportunity to tie Sorkin into their Rape Culture storyline was to much to resist its all just clickbait for these bloggers

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Maybe.

I suppose the critics are exhibiting exactly the sort of thing Sorkin was writing against: People are right to be disgusted about rape culture, but wrong to expect members of a profession which has (or is supposed to have) ethical limitations on bias to become sellouts and capitalize on the victims.

In legal terms, that's called a conflict of interest. The same goes for forcing Don ethically to presume innocence of the accused on air while privately believing Mary in his own mind.

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Its less about what it is and more about what it comes off as. Don doesn't say that he is "obligated to believe", he says he's "morally obligated to believe". There's a difference between those two sentences. He's not morally obligated to believe anything. Especially given that Mary specifically told him that she was asking for his opinion on who he believes and not who he would have to go with in the court of law. I understand that there is a misinterpretation in Don's meaning that is causing the outrage but it definitely is problematic wording.

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Perhaps he should have said "I'm ethically bound to believe him." That might have cleared up confusion, at least to some people. It probably wouldn't have changed many minds, however, which is a shame. I feel like the subtext was lost and drowned out by the (understandably) emotional response... (And those certain reviewers who admit to never being open to liking the show in the first place).

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How is it not morally wrong to believe someone when you know there is no proof other than their word?

Wouldn't that in turn also make him morally obligated to believe the guy's story, even though he's nearly certain he did it?

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Your missing the distinction between personal belief and professional ethics. Ethics and morality are not the same thing. Sorkin's mistake seems to be equating morality with ethics... Which is what caused the backlash, in my opinion.

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Your missing the distinction between personal belief and professional ethics.


No, it's perfectly possible for Don to feel morally obligated to believe the accused based on his own morals. That has nothing to do with whether or not he is also bound to believe the accused based on his the ethics of his profession.

Is it truly that weird to think believing something based on nothing but their word is wrong? I'm not saying I never believe anyone, but at some point some proof has to be produced before I'm willing to take any considerable action based on those words..

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Best comment on the subject. 100% agree.

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I'm not sure it's missing so much as the writing rendered it a moot point.

A bit of background here - I'm a professional writer, editor, publisher, etc. I also used to write a computer games issues column called "Garwulf's Corner" back in 2000-2002.

In order to ensure that I met the deadlines, I would write each installment about 2-4 weeks in advance. Around the time that I had written a particular installment, an uprising had begun in Palestine, and was on the news every morning as I woke up. What hadn't made it out yet was the full story, so I was hearing about the violence, not the reasons behind it. And, with stories of civilians getting blown up in what seemed like a wave of terrorism, I made a reference to a type of hacker being as vicious in their own way as a Palestinian bomber.

Between writing that line and the column going up, the full story came out. And boy, did I catch hell. The point was lost, and all anybody cared about was how badly I had messed up on the Palestine reference.

That one was on me - I botched it. And I think this was a case where Sorkin did the same.

Don started out the conversation on the right track - the idea of putting a rape victim and her rapist on television at the same time is remarkably bad. It opens the victim up to slut shaming and further victimization for the sake of ratings, turns what happened to her into a sideshow, and doesn't give her anything of what she wanted. And that was clear at the beginning of the discussion.

If Don had told her that she needed to insist that the segment not be a ridiculous publicity stunt, but actual news coverage, it would have been fine. Instead, it went into the website, became the "voice of reason" telling a rape victim who had been denied justice not to help others, and then taking away her agency at the end when Don lied about not finding her.

I don't doubt that Sorkin meant well - he just royally botched it on this one. I sympathize...been there, done that, and all...

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But then people would have criticized Don/Sorkin for not going deep enough. Focusing on business facet rather than the underlying rape issue.

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That website would not have helped others though, it would've only made things worse, even if real rapists were named they could sue and claim the site was lying, Don did the right thing by not letting that woman open herself up to criticism(especially if she admitted that she had taken a lot of drugs, which would have many people accusing her of intentionally putting herself in a bad situation).

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No you're wrong, it absolutely was his place to do so and he did not "derail" the conversation, a website like that is beyond dangerous, what would happen if one of the accused rapists managed to hack into the website and discover the identities of the anonymous individuals accusing others of rape, then they could be targeted by rapists as payback and they could end up getting raped/assaulted again or even killed.

There HAS to be a neutral when it comes to rape allegations, you can't just blindly assume that every single accusation of rape is true, at my community college a woman made a false rape accusation.

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Anonymous people accusing others (named) of rape - or any other crime? Stop right there. Think about it.

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"Don started out the conversation on the right track - the idea of putting a rape victim and her rapist on television at the same time is remarkably bad. It opens the victim up to slut shaming and further victimization for the sake of ratings, turns what happened to her into a sideshow, and doesn't give her anything of what she wanted. And that was clear at the beginning of the discussion.

If Don had told her that she needed to insist that the segment not be a ridiculous publicity stunt, but actual news coverage, it would have been fine. Instead, it went into the website, became the "voice of reason" telling a rape victim who had been denied justice not to help others, and then taking away her agency at the end when Don lied about not finding her. "

This.

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No, he wasn't telling her not to help other victims, he was saying that using a website that could potentially be exploited was the wrong way to go about it.

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As the OP said, the point of the conversation was to illustrate the dilemma, not to propose a solution. Two wrongs doesn't make a right.

If Don had told her that she needed to insist that the segment not be a ridiculous publicity stunt, but actual news coverage, it would have been fine. Instead, it went into the website, became the "voice of reason" telling a rape victim who had been denied justice not to help others, and then taking away her agency at the end when Don lied about not finding her.


There is no way they could have spinned that story into substantial news. In fact, it would have been even worse if she was allowed to be placed at centre stage without the guy there to defend himself. If they wanted to highlight the issues of rape, they should have booked a spokesperson for a sexual trauma centre or something, who could elaborate on the issues of the legal system in regards to rape.

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I thought the interaction between Don and Mary (the woman who started the rapist outing site) did an excellent job of starting a conversation about an obviously difficult, emotional, and polarizing topic.

I think most critics of that part of the episode aren't considering it in its entirety but are instead latching onto one line or one aspect of it and criticizing it as if that one line or aspect equates to Sorkin's views on rape. For these people, the only acceptable treatment of the topic would be one that presently only their point of view.

It's a complicated topic with far more gray to it than the black-and-white opinions of the critics allow. The episode did a good job of presenting that grayness, especially within the context of journalism, internet, and social media ethics that is a theme of season 3.

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This segment of the episode was the most thought provoking to me, especially in light of all the allegations recently in the news about sexual abuse on college campuses. I had mixed feelings about it too, but I think the bottom line reason for the story was to show how ACN was being pushed into doing news based on how many "tweets" they could get, and not the actual value of the story (e.g. Lady Gaga's manager??). And in the olden days, no one would have forced Don or anyone else into doing a story that they were clearly not comfortable doing.

I certainly agree that the rape victim deserved her day in court, and while I sympathized with her, I was glad that Don refused to do it.

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Once the victim mentioned what she took, the rest of the dialogue was filler to me. I was worried she would be attacked because she didn't take better care of herself, and I didn't want her to do the interview. So I missed a lot of what Mr.Sorkin was telling the viewers about ethics in story telling and how that may be influenced by a person's moral compass.
Your post highlighted that gray area for journalists, and how they sleep at night.

Don't wake up giving yourself a pass. Challenge yourself to be better

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