The New Tramp-stamp? - Ink Master (2012) Discussion

[–] MisterFranks 7 years ago

I have seen a lot of dumb human garbage types with some kind of tattoo on the side of the neck, often like the brand logo of something they like (Chevrolet, Mustang, NFL teams, Hockey, NBA, baseball), or a superhero (thor, hulk, etc.), or some of that faggy poetry ("just swallow" "Let me slide it in" or "use vaseline")

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[–] therefdotcom 7 years ago

yeah, the "kiddie neck" tat and the "long poem on rib" are both prime contenders.

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[–] SvenHozz 7 years ago

Don't forget the Butterfly, flower, or cutie bug ankle Tattoos. Girls that wear them seem like they want to be "Bad Girls", but scared to go all the way & fail.
I hope I'm not being "Blasphemist", but, I was never fond of the "Praying Hands & the Rosary" Tattoos. Guess because it seems like all of my Mexican American friends have them. and there is NO WAY they adhere to the Catholic religion. It's like a drug dealer with a D.A.R.E. bumper sticker on their car.
Oh! I Know! The new "Tattoo Trend" will be ................are you ready for this?................................ WATER COLOR!

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[–] therefdotcom 7 years ago

true, but all of those have been around (and rather silly) for ages. that's rather the equvalent to the "small rose tat on the tit" than the successor of the tramp stamp.

personally i hate every religious symbol for the same reasons you named, but i also hate tats of other people's faces as well. i will never understand what drives cute goth chicks into getting the effin face of someone from the monsters or even worse the face of their crappy offspring on her body.

lol, you really think so? i haven't even heard of that, before the show. i liked "trash polka", when it came out, but i am already sick of looking at that style.

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[–] MisterFranks 7 years ago

I feel sorry for people that get the tattoos of their babies/toddlers. Most of the time, the kids either look like they are dead or retarded, or both.

Most of the tats that people get of their beloved parents are equally morbid.

Portraits of family/friends usually look creepy or horrible.

The only portraits that sometimes look good are well known stars like Elvis, Monroe, etc. But only if the tat is great. I have seen some Marilyn Monroe tats that make my skin crawl.

It is kind of sad when a pretty gal gets a crappy tattoo of Monroe, Madonna, or some other celebrity HO.

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[–] Bobby Briggs Briganza 7 years ago

Are there any tattoos that you do like?

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[–] MisterFranks 7 years ago

There are lots of them. I just checked the Inkmaster website, and for season 8, I can honestly say that I would not pay for any of those on my skin.

Season 7 had better artists. Sausage did some nice ones that I would like. Christian Buckingham did a very nice wolf.

There are a lot of tattoos that might be good, but I would not pay for them on me. There are a lot that are good, and that I would pay for, but not from Season 8.

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[–] Bobby Briggs Briganza 7 years ago

Well, what tattoos have you gotten that you’re happy with?

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[–] therefdotcom 7 years ago

agreed, except for the portraits of stars. everybody is free to do what they want, but i find a well made monroe portrait equally creepy. i just don't understand the notion of wanting that INKED. have a poster on the wall? sure? a statue? of course, but someone else's face on your body?

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[–] MisterFranks 7 years ago

I think that women with low self-esteem are the ones that usually get Monroe.

The thought being: I can be a famous whore just like Monroe if I have Monroe's spirit tattoo on my arm, ass, butt, back, tits, etc.

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[–] therefdotcom 7 years ago

i disagree on that part. she is admired as a beauty icon, so i understand the status up to a certain point, leaving everything else out of the discussion.

if your statement was true, skanks would all be wearing kardashians tats by now. xD

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[–] MisterFranks 7 years ago

To be a Kardashian skank, you wear a Monroe Tat.

Or Lady Caca, Madonna, etc. I saw a girl with a Janis Joplin tat, and it was pretty good, but still gross. Joplin on her best videos still looks like a pig. All she could do was screech. I wonder what people saw in her?

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

I actually like Trash Polka. Not sure why they knock it on the show. A girl I know who's got a full sleeve on one arm and hand and rib wants to get a full sleeve done on the other arm. I showed her trash polka and is considered getting it.

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[–] therefdotcom 7 years ago

i guess for two reason:

1. none of the judges are familiar with the style. in one of the previous seasons they did not even know about it.

2. it is hard to judge. a lot of the stuff added to the main motif seems rather "random", so whose to say what was originally intended and what not?

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

For #1 I was actually thr one who pointed it out on the NYE special episode which featured Josh, Gentle Jay, Al Fliction and I think CeeJay.

Al did a head cover up and I think it was a black and grey gas mask with the red splatter. And they had no idea what it was. Said it made no Sense. Interested when the artists were talking in the loft josh tells Al "what you and your trash polka" when arguing who had the best.

I brought it up back then because it's always interesting on American Traditional or Japanese day we sometimes have no winners or they're so anal about everything.

I know this is another topic but maybe scrap Oliver and Nunez and just have 2 guest judges every week that specialize in that challenge. They don't know the report cards and can judge the challenge. Maybe have Oliver and Nunez around but can't make decisions.

On finale they can vote. I would rather have someone who specializes the challenge come in for the master canvases.

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[–] therefdotcom 7 years ago

"For #1 I was actually thr one who pointed it out on the NYE special episode which featured Josh, Gentle Jay, Al Fliction and I think CeeJay.

Al did a head cover up and I think it was a black and grey gas mask with the red splatter. And they had no idea what it was. Said it made no Sense. Interested when the artists were talking in the loft josh tells Al "what you and your trash polka" when arguing who had the best.

I brought it up back then because it's always interesting on American Traditional or Japanese day we sometimes have no winners or they're so anal about everything. "

true. i remember.

"I know this is another topic but maybe scrap Oliver and Nunez and just have 2 guest judges every week that specialize in that challenge. They don't know the report cards and can judge the challenge. Maybe have Oliver and Nunez around but can't make decisions.

On finale they can vote. I would rather have someone who specializes the challenge come in for the master canvases. "

totally agreed, but they will never gonna do that. the thing is, that the ratings are good, which in the producers brains means, everything is A-OK just as it is. i understand that most of us enthusiasts here on the board would prefer the show to be more credible on many levels, BUT we are still watching since there is no alternative tattoo show and even with all it's flaws, it is still entertaining.

also, we don't know how the rest of the viewers is bothered by all of the flaws as well or if they want all the gimmicks and are not bothered by all the flaws.

so unless a huge amount of people write to the channel directly, it will all stay as it is or even get worse, if that is even possible.

the only thing i have noticed that they got rid off were some of dave's annoying catch phrases. i did not even notice, but didn't he stop his ".... by amurrica" routine?

anyway, i remember watching the show "top shots" a while ago and it was the first 2 or seasons where they had some of the most inhuman bullying i have seen on a show that was presented as a competition and the producers did nothing, until they had a massive amount of viewer complaints.

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

Interestingly a lot of viewers do comp,win on twitter and instagram. One person said the same thing I said about people misspelling Kelly when voting. Even Dave made the same mistake tweeting #inkelly instead of the correct #inkkelly. But it's interesting in that they care a lot about these live twitter votes but seem to ignore all the negative feedback from twitter.

I think the reason they dropped the whole by America thing because I don't remember them having fans vote for best tattoo of the day and the person with the most votes benefits something.

Season 2 the person in the final 3 with the least amount of votes got eliminated.

Season 3 winner got to do a guest spot at Oliver's shop. They had other stuff that benefited the best tattoo. But this past season and maybe before that didn't have a factor.

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[–] therefdotcom 7 years ago

"Interestingly a lot of viewers do comp,win on twitter and instagram. One person said the same thing I said about people misspelling Kelly when voting. Even Dave made the same mistake tweeting #inkelly instead of the correct #inkkelly. But it's interesting in that they care a lot about these live twitter votes but seem to ignore all the negative feedback from twitter. "

interesting. maybe it's to mobilize some people. ^^

"I think the reason they dropped the whole by America thing because I don't remember them having fans vote for best tattoo of the day and the person with the most votes benefits something. "

true, but didn't he also mention it each and every episode in regards of the one day upcoming live finale as well?

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[–] MisterFranks 7 years ago

I think Navaroo and Nunez should be replaced with real tattoo artist judges.

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[–] Bobby Briggs Briganza 7 years ago

I have to concur with theref, Sven, that I think most of your examples are perennial “classics” more so than what I happen to be thinking about, which is tattoo ideas that have trended over a 2-4 year arc. i.e. there is some trendsetter, then maybe a celebrity or person in magazine sees it -- or just one’s “girlfriends” are spotted with it on that one Spring Break trip to Ft. Lauderdale -- and then there is a rush where “everyone” wants it (oblivious to the trend), and then people become aware of the trend and stop it because they realize it is “played out."

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[–] Bobby Briggs Briganza 7 years ago

I’m suggesting that the rib thing, as a trend, is on the wane or passed. Dunno about the neck tattoos though. I haven’t seen what I think *I* would call a trend of that -- just that it has become a lot more common overall than it have ever been in the past, yes. Not sure.

Not intending to sound sexist, just observant -- when I say I think these trends lean towards women tattoo-getters. Men tattoo-getters have their fair share (and maybe much more than their share) of “dumb” tattoos, but there is something about the trend cycle that is distinctly female. (I think?)

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[–] therefdotcom 7 years ago

it might not be that common in other states, but over here the "side of the neck, just below the ear" tat is the ultimate douchebag/hipster/hip kid trend. usually it is either a gothic letter of something music related (note, instrument) or something extremely feminine.

i would not agree to that. remember when the tramp stamp trend started, every dude just HAD to get a huuuge tribal to a visible part of their body. the newer trends i mention, i could witness on both sexes.

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

By evidence of Ink Master we are seeing a lot of thigh tattoos. The last 2 live finales every canvas got a thigh tattoo. All of the "open canvas" excluding the master canvases they all got tattoos on the thigh. Dave said on the tramp stamp coverup tattoo that most people get it to hide their tattoos. So I'm guessing that's the new "tramp stamp". I know you were referring to trends but just wanted to write this.

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[–] Bobby Briggs Briganza 7 years ago

I remember you noted this before, and yes, I would speculate too that this is trend-ish. Notice that all the people getting the 7 hour thigh tattoos were women. (i.e. my note above that women seem to be the trend-leaders more so.) And it’s not like these women were so covered in tattoos that only the thigh was left. Also, all of the tattoos, from a body aesthetics perspective, looked kind of ugly IMHO. Which maybe suggests there is some motivation to get the tattoo despite common sense!

My take on thigh-piece tattoos is that, yes, the thigh is a convenient area to be tattooed because there is so much space (and it is inconspicuous) BUT if we look back to how people have tended to get tattooed in the past, typically people who went for the thigh were people heavily tattooed already who had filled up their extremities and upper body.

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

Another tattoo trend was the belly button sun tattoo...

But the thigh I noticed lots of men on Ink Master have been getting it. I seem to remember at the final 4 from Revenge Anthony, Cleen, James Vaughan and Christian had open canvases 2 males and 2 females and were thigh tattoos. Sausage and Matti head to head zombie faces were thighs.

While at first it started woth people who at heavily tattooed now getting thigh tattoos. I think because these nut jobs want a free tattoo and agree to be open canvases they want something they can hide. A lot of them arnt heavily tatted. They just want a tattoo but also want to hide it since that particular tattoo has no meaning for them. So it's their "tramp stamp" cuz they want to hide it.

Still though, taking a dump and seeing that tattoo everytime upside down.

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[–] therealman 7 years ago

I don't think it is a tattoo at all. My nominee is the piercing of the high check. It always looks like they have something that needs to be brushed off their face.

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[–] SvenHozz 7 years ago

Everyone I know that has a face piercing has had them catch on something ie clothing, tree branch and just about rip them out of their face. Same with stud piercings on hands or other body parts. I've seen them rip right out. Ouch! Not for the active person I guess.

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

Speaking of piercing getting caught. I had a friend who claimed before we met him that he used to have a nipple ring and his dog ripped it off. Years later we were at the beach and you can see a scar on his nipple. But I think he lied about it. I think he had gyno surgery and it's his aliby.

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[–] therefdotcom 7 years ago

yeah, sounds like a cover story. i got em too and trust me, if they would be literally "ripped out", there would be no nipple left. also, how large would the rings have to be, so that the dog could actually get hold of them?

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

I think at the time gyno surgery was rare. I think it's becoming more common. Even The Rock got them back in 1999 and again years later.

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[–] Bobby Briggs Briganza 7 years ago

Even The Rock? whoah. What about Super Fly Jimmy Snookah?

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

Everyone knows The Rock. If you didn't then well you'd be living under one.

I know you're a closeted wrestling fan considering that you know a lot about it. You even said WWF instead of the current WWE name to pretend you watched it as a kid and not anymore.

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[–] Bobby Briggs Briganza 7 years ago

to pretend you watched it as a kid and not anymore.

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I did watch WWF as a kid. The Iron Sheik, Andre the Giant, etc. Why would you think that I watch it now or that I’m a fan? What makes you think I know a lot about it?

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

I'm not saying you are a superfan of it but I think you occasionally watch it but feel ashamed to admit it. It's okay though. Truth is I used to watch it a lot but Im now in the category of occasionally watching it if I'm not doing anything and it's on. Like tomorrow for example I'm going to a Christmas party so I won't watch it. No plans to record it or anything. But if I was going out and Ink Master is on I would.

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[–] Bobby Briggs Briganza 7 years ago

I think you occasionally watch it but feel ashamed to admit it.

Dude, you’re cracking me up! Why would you think that (and why would it matter)?

IMDb is pretty much anonymous AND anyone can check my profile and see all the trash things I’ve rated and watched -- things one would, presumably, be much more "ashamed to admit” than pro wrestling. So why would I carry on pretending not to be into it?

Occam’s Razor, my friend.

I’m 41 years old, and used to see WWF as a kid in the 80s. I graduated high school in the early 90s, and didn’t watch much TV at all after that, must less wrestling, which was associated with being a kid in my social spheres. Now I watch certain TV shows on line. I only owned a TV for a brief time in around 2000-2001. So it’s not like I’m flipping through channels and sneaking peaks at my secret desire for men in tights, or even seeing ads. It’s something I know is there, yes, and yes everyone knows who The Rock is because he’s a celebrity/ movie star that pops up all over the place in media (on-line, etc). But I’m not up on what happens in wrestling, who the people are, and I never watch it. Hence, it doesn’t occur to me to draw some parallel between some random thing in life and some character on wrestling... unless it’s some nostalgic reference to Hulkamaniacs or Roddy Piper or those other Canuck dudes.

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[–] therefdotcom 7 years ago

ok, enough with the fighting.

can we all just agree that rick flair is the best athlete of all times?

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[–] catonryewithmayo 7 years ago

The Rock was a wrestler? I thought he just had that name from being in a real sport, or something.

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

Nothing you said will change my speculation...

I'm almost 10 years younger then you and I occasionally watch it. I don't love it as much as a kid or in high school. But I watch it when I can. It was on last night and I didn't watch it cuz I was at a Christmas party.

But like I said I said The Rock nothing to do with wrestling and you already made "WWF" references.

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[–] Bobby Briggs Briganza 7 years ago

It’s very interesting about your Christmas parties and so forth, but let me just break this down for you very simply, to finish the exchange.

Most of the people on this board, including myself, do not watch wrestling. We are aware of its existence of course, and we may hear about some of the characters/actors whose names pop up in other media, but generally don’t know any specifics about them.

So, when you make as many references as you do (which isn’t that many, to be fair, but it’s enough) to wrestlers we don’t really know what you’re talking about. I find your assumption that we would know -- along with, now, your unshakable assumption that I personally watch wrestling! -- to be humorous. Why is it humorous? I guess because it reveals your own lack of awareness a bit, of your own slight Hulkamania, thinking that others around you must be doing the same as you. I dunno, maybe it’s Canada. Here in California, we’re more into eating tacos and getting stuck in traffic and sh!t, and would be better at recognizing Tupac references.

So, I have poked fun at your slight obsession and the lacking awareness way you manifest it. It’s not mean spirited. I’m happy to laugh if you joke about how fat my ass gets from eating tacos. I’m not about to turn it around, however, and claim that YOU also have a FTA (Fat Taco Ass).

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[–] SvenHozz 7 years ago

This thread has lost it's original post, so I might as well toss in my 2 cents.
I grew up in MN and used to watch AWA with my grandmother every Sunday night just before "The World of Disney". AWA was the wrestling promotion by Vern Gagne. It had the "Crusher" "Mad Dog Vachon" "Nick Bockwinkle" "Larry Henny" "Dick the Bruiser" etc. I also watched the WWF in the 80's. Used to love that stuff.
Watched a lot of the WWF. Used to see it as "Comic Book Characters come to life". What with all the outfits, special moves, and bigger than life characters.
Actually met a few of the icons when I wrote for a Pro Wrestling website. Met Hulk Hogan (Terry Bollea) while living in Tampa back in the 80's. Used to hang out at his pool after working out at the gym. I was even Pie-faced by John Laurinaitis (Animal of the Road Warriors") Happened in a Mpls Bar where he was bouncing during his training days.(It was a dare) Met a few of the Von Erichs, Kerry & Kevin when I was touring in Texas. Met Vader and a handful of others.
As big as it was in my life I lost interest when McMahon went in the ring, WWE turned to WWF, and when so many of my childhood icons started dying from roid use.
One day I met Royce Gracie after a "Pride" fight in the 90's, and MMA instantly filled the void left behind. After UFC started going strong, I never watched another WWE event.
My 2 cents worth.

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

Pretty cool writing for a wrestling magazine. Too bad about Verne Gagne's granddaughter.

And WWF turned to WWE. I think wrestling got boring after WCW was bought by WWE and it became boring. It was actually popular during 1998-2001. Less cartoony kids character. Now it's all PG crap.

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[–] MisterFranks 7 years ago

I used to love Gordon Solie and watched Florida Wrestling religiously, and the WWE was pretty cool until McMahon took over and turned it into a totally scripted drama bull crap with all totally fake and somewhat over-the-top faggy wrestler gangs, etc.

McMahon and his giant Amazon whore daughter ruined what was fun and spontaneous about wrestling. The wrestlers used to make their own stuff up, and it was fun. Now it is more scripted than Bad Girls Club or some other reality show crap.

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[–] MisterFranks 7 years ago

More scripted than Inkmaster. Like if Dave Navarro where McMahon, and Nunez was his whore daughter.

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[–] brunolavida 7 years ago

All you do here is talk *beep* about whatever people have on their bodies... you are you to judge what people want or like to tattoo? get over it... people do whatever they want to do. I think you have tattoo issues... geez.

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[–] MisterFranks 7 years ago

I admire the good ones. I point out that many of them suck. the contests are set up to fail, not succeed. It is a miracle when they can do a great tattoo.

Imagine if your dentist had to work on you while you were upside down, or he was standing on hot coals? The odds are that your dentistry would not turn out great.

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[–] The-Demon 7 years ago

There is traffic everywhere....

If I say someone looks like a wrestler when comparing certain artists like for example I'm not expecting them to know who it is. It's like saying an artist looks like an actor that I'm not aware kf I'll do a simple google search.

I was talking about gyno surgery because of nipple pearcing and mentioned its a common surgery that even The Rock did.

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