Could NOT have been worse - Certain Prey (2011) Discussion

[–] Golden_Spider_Duck 13 years ago

I have to say, I agree with you. Almost everything about it was awful.
Mark Harmon is too old, too small, too grey-haired, and too gruff to be Lucas Davenport. I have never watched NCIS, but he was just bad. Maybe he should have read one or two (or five) of the books, because he used to be a pretty good actor. I think the biggest problem was that he is 20+ years too old for the part, but he mis-read the character badly, and trying to turn on the "ladies man" thing at ramdom intervals didn't do anything to save it.

Just a few of the MAJOR problems I had with it:
No Del, no Sloan? My two favorite cops who work with Lucas? The entire police force is Marcy (who, uh, doesn't look or ACT like Marcy at all - Marcy doesn't give Lucas *beep* for every single thing he does) and Tom Black - also miscast.

Was one of those FBI guys supposed to be Mallard? What an important character to leave out! Dreadful.
Malone was probably the best casting decision they made.

Hale Allen was supposed to be some kind of earth-shatteringly gorgeous man, and uh...this is what they give us? I say meh.

Let us not even speak of how bad the actress playing Rinker was. Mousy, boring, young. You never got a feeling of danger from her.
I have never liked Lola Whatsername, but I didn't really see enough of her to see anything other than her tragic overacting.

And then the production values! My god! I think my favorite part was when they hung a paper banner on what appeared to be an elementary school and declared it "Central Wichita Airport" - hilarious.

Oh, and when the FBI got to the office in Kansas and there were no chairs there, so they were just standing around in a circle - that made me laugh as well. Although I don't think it was meant to.
And wtf was that "dancing" Lucas and Clara were doing at the RInk? Who dances like that? Seriously, who?

I think the title of your post is PERFECT because I can't think of any way in which this rotten little movie could have been worse. Dreadful. Despicable. Icky. Let us never speak of it again.

Some books are just not meant to be filmed.
I don't even think that with a great director, a well-written screenplay, MORE CHARACTERS, and a good cast, this couldn't be a really good movie. This, unfortunately, was not that really good movie.

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[–] spindoctorptoh 13 years ago

I just finished watching the replay and as someone who has read all the Prey novels, I am at a loss for words.

RC, you pretty much nailed it. I know that John Sandford would like to disassociate himself from this fiasco. No one was cast properly. And the scriptwriter apparently felt he could throw darts at the book in order to pick out bits and pieces and assemble a script.

And Lucas narrating... WTF was that all about????

I certainly hope USA doesn't get any bright ideas and think that they can do a Virgil Flowers project next. Ugh. If only I could get those 2 hours back.

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[–] author004 13 years ago

Well, I've only read about half the novels (9 or 10 to be exact), and I thought it wasn't too bad at all.

I wonder how you can say that Sandford " would like to disassociate himself from this fiasco" ... did he actually say that? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have sold the rights to the series to USA if he felt it was a "fiasco."

The ironic thing about all the negative comments is that they fall a lot more short than the negativity criticizes. Is this Ben Hur or Casablanca? No, but then again, it's not intended to be.

The line that really makes me laugh hardest is: "Ugh. If only I could get those 2 hours back."

So you hate losing two hours of your life, but you're perfectly fine with about 10 minutes of bitching and whining about it! lmao

Losers always whine about doing their best; winners go home and "eff" the prom queen

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[–] Howler87 13 years ago

I love the novels. I've read them all at least twice, and some of them 3 times. I thought that Certain Prey was one of the 3 or 4 best Prey novels. Rinker and Carmel were awesome villains.

But this movie was too short to encompass the depth of the book. If you'd read the book, then you knew what was going on at all times, but if you didn't, then you would have been lost. This should have been a miniseries.

Sloan was in the movie, but he was younger than Lucas, and appeared to be a "badass", which is wrong on both counts. Sloan is older, calmer, and certainly not a badass.

I thought Marcy was cast a little strangely...she was about a decade too young, but her look was absolutlely perfect, outside of the hispanic thing. Marcy is caucasian in the books.

Finally, Mark Harmon is too old for this role, nonetheless he did a great job with it. He has read the books and has been a fan of Sandford since the 80's, no matter what the yay-hoo's at this site say.

If they do the next one that features Clara Rinker, it should be BIG fun!

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[–] author004 13 years ago

You're right about Sloan. I always thought he was about the same age as Lucas, but much more slight of build. When Hale came into Lucas' office and asked if it was a good time,, I thought Sloan's "I was just about to shoot him" matched Sloan's humor from the book.

Marcy seemed younger to me too. I didn't mind the ethnic thing (and it seems you didn't either). At the same time, the actress could certainly earn the character's book nickname of "Titsy."

Mark Harmon is older than Lucas, but I wasn't too worried about that. Compared to some of this board's other suggestions for Lucas (i.e. Patrick Wilson), I'm fine with Harmon, and I think he did well (am I the only one who noticed Lucas' vertical scar down his right eye to his lip -- just like in the book?).

The real surprise/bright for me was the portrayal of Clara Rinker by Tatiana Maslany. I had googled a couple of pics of her a month or two ago and didn't think she "looked" like Clara. I was wrong about that and pleasantly surprised. Who would ever suspect that a woman who looked like that was a hit woman -- and be so intelligent about the consequences of her job? I thought she was very good in the role.

This makes me want to see another "Prey" film, "Mortal Prey" where Lucas has another run-in with Clara. Judging from the phone conversation at the end, I have a feeling it may be upcoming.

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[–] BertramWilberforceWooster 13 years ago

If you'd read the book, then you knew what was going on at all times, but if you didn't, then you would have been lost.

I've read all the books, but my wife hasn't. She had no problem at all following the story. This was a decent adaptation for what it was: not great, but not bad, either. I hope there's another one.

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[–] spindoctorptoh 13 years ago

Author004, I won't even justify a response to you seeing as how your main objective has been to come to every single one of these threads and mention Marcy's "nickname" in the novels.

And for someone who hasn't even read the entire series, you don't have sufficient knowledge of Lucas' evolution over the entire series. Why aren't you upset that they made no real effort to stick to Lucas' physical characteristics... I didn't see the scars that are mentioned in every single novel when John describes Lucas. If you can't stick to the basics... there's much to be said.

Anyone can go to Sandford's... er, I mean Mr. Camp's website (set up and run by his SON) to find out the answer to the trivia questions that you feel qualify whether someone is a real fan of the Prey series

Anyway, hopefully Weather will be to your liking when she's cast, or better yet: you can have sordid fantasies about Elle, if she ever shows up since you were so fixated on the women to not notice anything else. I'll bet you almost exploded when Carmel was in her bra.

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[–] BertramWilberforceWooster 13 years ago

I didn't see the scars that are mentioned in every single novel when John describes Lucas. If you can't stick to the basics...

There was a close up of the one on the right side of face if you had been paying close attention.

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[–] spindoctorptoh 13 years ago

There was a close up of the one on the right side of face if you had been paying close attention.

I was. And even it wasn't right as the scar goes across most of the right side of his face. And where was the tracheotomy scar from when he got shot in the throat since you wanna get nitpicky

The only similarity between Harmon and Lucas is the fact that they both have blue eyes.

Anyway....

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[–] linderbp 13 years ago

You must be that 'twerp' of a son who handles his (JS) website. Got to be since you've been out of high school long enough to be a failure in life, taking a bone (web master) tossed by the old man, while fantasizing the bone you would have given the Prom Queen; had you been a real jock like Davenport!

I've often felt Sandford leans 'left', but writes 'right'; but knows it takes a Davenport like character to line his pockets with capitalism. a.k.a. Patricia Cornwell & James Lee Burke.

Having read EVERY single book Sandford has written, having wore a Rolex Submariner and owned a 911 Porsche before Lucas got his from money made writing gaming software, this movie was as bad as the current White House residents!

An OBAMANATION !!!!!!!

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[–] ebarnes6 12 years ago

I'm not quite sure I get your "left-right" analogy. I do wonder if you're implying that James Lee Burke's writing is designed to make money, as if that means he isn't a good writer. That could not be further from the truth. Though I typically dislike writers who are overly descriptive, he breaks all the rules as he opens with scenes of Louisiana that are so vivid, they draw you into the book and make you feel like you have been there. He's the only writer I know that is so damn awesome, he can make you want to know what's going to happen by describing a foggy bayou. One of the only times in my life where I could not put a book down for hours upon hours was in his Dave Robicheaux series where I had to make sure his partner/sidekick hadn't gotten himself killed. I was that invested in the characters. Though I certainly respect everyone's right to their own opinion, I have to strongly disagree with yours.

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[–] Golden_Spider_Duck 13 years ago

Spindoc,
I had forgotten about that AWFUL voiceover.

Or maybe blocked it out. <shudder>

That was so terrible, so terrible, and yet there are people coming in to this thread, claiming to be fans of the books, who thought it was just great.

So there you go, I guess this is why there's nothing but crap on tv.

Mark Harmon may or may not be a fan of the books, but at 61, he is fully 15 years too old for the part, and he should have realized that Lucas is described so clearly in the books that many of us would take one look at him and start off on NO.
There was nothing else about this POS crap-fest that made me move toward yes.

You know, folks, Nicholas Cage is obsessed with Superman, but it doesn't mean he's right for the part.

Many people who know a lot about filmmaking will tell you that casting is 80% (or so) of the battle. This thing really cemented the truth of that for me.
EVERY part was miscast.

These are books that I love, and I realize that I have high expectations. But this movie - it was not good. Everything from the set design to the music was beyond bad.

If you want an example of a film that got the casting 100% exactly right, take a look at the LoTR movies. I love those books, too, and went into the movies expecting to hate them. Those were saved by the love of the filmmakers for the material, and the greatest casting ever seen by man.

I think these filmmakers did exactly what spindoctor said - threw some darts at a copy of the book, leaving huge plot holes - and cast it while drunk, or blindfolded, or both.

Finally, I completely agree that they must leave a Virgil Flowers project alone, and I also hope they don't touch the Kidd/Luann novels, because then I might get REALLY mad!

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[–] author004 13 years ago

so what you're saying is that anyone who like this movie is new to the "Prey" series and has never read the books. Well sorry, but it doesn't seem from your comments that you've read any of them. As I've stated earlier on this board, I've read about half of them. I know that number but, without looking, can you even name how many "Prey" novels there have been? Can you tell us John Sandford's real name?

At this point, I can't even tell if you actually watched the movie. I suspect you had it on, but were probably busy around the house, talking to someone on the phone, or trolling the internet. That's how it certainly seems.

In fact, the only plot point which was not tied up was whether Bailey lived or died. I know which, the movie didn't conclude, but do you know? Also, Carmel's death was to include her rushing her car into what is now the Target Center (where the Minnesota Timberwolves play, sans lockout).

I will admit that Mark Harmon is older than the Davenport in the movie. that doesn't bother me. By the way, he's was 59 when the movie was made; not 61. When translating a book to TV means accepting a few allowances. I bet if Harmon didn't have gray hair, no one would worry about the age comparison. As I alluded to above, they put the vertical scar on his right cheek. There, they got it right.

You have to understand that when a novel is made into a movie, certain allowances have to be made by the viewer. For instance, the use of cell phones and laptops -- certainly not as wide ranging in the novel.

Now, a bit of a paradox in acting performance. Lola Glaudini was horrible as Carmel. It looks like she was trying, but she was just not believable. On the other hand, Tatiana Maslany was pretty good as Clara. I was pleasantly surprised.

It appears that you began to watch this movie with the intent to hate it. You're probably not alone, but that's unfortunate. The only thing worse is that after hating this as much as you seem to, you'll probably come on to the board of the nest one (and it certainly looks like there will be more) and complain in the same manner as you are complaining now.

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[–] bossysheryl 13 years ago

I don't know about anybody else you're talking to, but as the person who STARTED this thread, I can assure you that not only have I read ALL the Prey novels, I re-read the whole series when there's a new one coming out--I'm just that kind of obsessive about series' characters that I love--and Lucas Davenport comes in second only to Jamie Fraser as far as I'm concerned.

And unlike most everyone else, I was personally pleased to see Mark Harmon cast as Lucas--I can live with the age difference, because Mark Harmon CAN act, unlike some of the actors who have been suggested to play Lucas. Lucas is closer to Ted Bundy thaN Jethro Gibbs, but Lucas should have been well within Mark Harmon's range as an actor.

Certain Prey is my favorite novel in the series. There was not one person in the prospective audience more pleased that Mark Harmon had been cast or that this novel had been chosen.

There is not one person more irritated about just how badly this turned out. Casting, despite your argument, is NOT 90 percent--it's about 45.

50 percent is the script.

If it's not on the page, it will never be on the screen. A good director KNOWS that, and insists on getting the script right to begin with. Sadly, neither the writer or the director was worth the powder OR lead it would take to blow them to hell, artistically speaking. Nobody on this mess was--even the cinematography looked like a bad rerun of Starsky and Hutch.

And I'll add Mark Harmon to the list of responsible people; he should have made sure the script was right before they ever started--because he's listed as executive producer on this disaster area. He above all should have known what a disaster the script was--and AS the producer, he shouldn't have gone forward until it was right.

I'm not going to go into the entirety of what's wrong with this mess--it would be a novel as long as the original. Suffice it to say that everyone involved with this should have their professional credentials questioned, because it's an incompetent mess from frame one to the fade out.

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[–] Howler87 13 years ago

I you're going to come on here and say that this was so terrible, please explain yourself. Without supporting evidence, you just sound bitter. I know what terrible movies look like, and this wasn't a terrible movie.

In my view, the acting was fine and my only objections came with what was left out of movie that was in the book. Having to condense it to 90 minutes is what cost it authenticity, not he performances or the casting.

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[–] BertramWilberforceWooster 13 years ago

Mark Harmon may or may not be a fan of the books, but at 61, he is fully 15 years too old for the part, and he should have realized that Lucas is described so clearly in the books that many of us would take one look at him and start off on NO. There was nothing else about this POS crap-fest that made me move toward yes.

He's 60. Not 61.

Anyway, age can be changed for a movie. On NCIS, he plays a character who is not old enough to have served in Vietnam. Since he was born in 1951, he would have been 18 in 1969, and still have had time to be drafted--or to have signed up to go to 'Nam. Instead, they made his character younger. In Red Dragon, the filmmakers used makeup to make Anthony Hopkins 30 years younger. During the 80s, the Brat Pack were playing teenage roles, even when they were in their 20s and 30s.

These are books that I love, and I realize that I have high expectations. But this movie - it was not good. Everything from the set design to the music was beyond bad.

If you want an example of a film that got the casting 100% exactly right, take a look at the LoTR movies. I love those books, too, and went into the movies expecting to hate them. Those were saved by the love of the filmmakers for the material, and the greatest casting ever seen by man.

The difference between Davenport and LOTR? You set low standards for LOTR, expecting to hate it. You loved it. You were expecting to like Certain Prey, and you hated it. If you just go into every movie with an open mind, you'll come out with a pleasant surprise more times than not. And not everyone will agree with YOU about THIS movie OR with LOTR. YOUR opinion is NOT RIGHT. IT IS AN OPINION. THAT'S WHY IT SMELLS LIKE SH!T.

Finally, I completely agree that they must leave a Virgil Flowers project alone, and I also hope they don't touch the Kidd/Luann novels, because then I might get REALLY mad!

And we wouldn't want that, would we? You might throw a tantrum and hurt yourself.

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[–] darkavenger77 13 years ago

...And then the production values! My god! I think my favorite part was when they hung a paper banner on what appeared to be an elementary school and declared it "Central Wichita Airport" - hilarious.

Oh, and when the FBI got to the office in Kansas and there were no chairs there, so they were just standing around in a circle - that made me laugh as well. Although I don't think it was meant to.
And wtf was that "dancing" Lucas and Clara were doing at the Rink? Who dances like that? Seriously, who?

I've never read the books, so I had nothing to compare it with. Just saw the elementary school & "dancing". I think it was a variation of the funky chicken known as the funky turkey.

Don't forget the "hitmen" that check one room of a house and decide it's clear and to wait for the chick, who despite her diminutive size apparently muscled both of them into her trunk.

And some more things... a Deputy Chief of a large city police department investigating homicides, and getting case advice from a traffic cop that knows nothing about the case...

Raylan Givens: I told him he's got 24 hours to get out of town or I'm gonna kill him.

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[–] lacarcagne 13 years ago

I've only watched part of it so far and so far it's pretty dang dull! Also, Harmon might think it's cute, but I don't appreciate the NCIS references such as the redheads and the FBI agent insisting he's a "special agent", which Harmon is always doing on NCIS. I'll finish it, but so far I'll take any NCIS episode over this.

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[–] jptwo-2 12 years ago

And where was Rose Marie?

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[–] jeff-90 12 years ago

just saw this, painfully bad. I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks Mark Harmon is a good choice is just nuts. His entire career, every part, he makes Keanu Reeves seem like Robert DeNiro. There is a REASON he has been a TV and low budget movie actor his entire life. Range goes from bland to blander, there is NOTHING physically that goes with Davenport, just a rotten choice. 72 acting credits on IMDB and almost all of them are in crap projects.

The dancing, omg, he makes me ashamed to be a middle aged white man.

Actually, its not even worth discussing, anything that is made for USA obviously has major budget issues. All the actors are second rate, the production values are terrible, there is no suspense or action or humor or sexiness or anything. The good news is it sucked so badly that they don't currently have plans to make anymore, maybe a real studio can give it a shot some day and this will just be another in the LONG line of forgotten Harmon efforts.

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[–] GaelinW 13 years ago

I've never read the books and this would never make me want to. I was less than 10 minutes in when I thought good god this is awful, especially the voiceover.

If you can't walk and talk/text at the same time, do the rest of us a favor and get out of the way.

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[–] author004 13 years ago

10 minutes? That's all? then don't watch "Casablanca;" you'll hate the first 10 minutes of that and "Gone with the Wind" and ... well, every great movie made (with the exception of Gunga Din)

This movie was never meant to be a major classic movie but, according to the book, it hit the nail on the head.

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[–] GaelinW 13 years ago

Yes, within the first 10 minutes I had already felt it was badly done. I watched the next 110. It didn't improve much.

As for the comment regarding Casablanca and Gone with the Wind, saw them. There is a difference between slow/plodding and bad execution.

I have nothing against the story depicted in Certain Prey. I just thought the execution was badly done. I'm quite familiar with TV movies as well as TV movies adapted from books. I understand the concept that a book to movie adaptation loses quite a lot of its detail. This movie lands on the bottom scale for both.

Your mileage may vary. And good for you, but I have the ability and right not agree with yours.

If you can't walk and talk/text at the same time, do the rest of us a favor and get out of the way.

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[–] mspatera 12 years ago

Beatcha. I lasted almost 11 minutes.

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[–] johnnycashak 13 years ago

Yeah I thought pretty much the same thing, and I haven't read the books. The acting was so stiff, and the dialogue was so badly written that I almost got motion sickness from rolling my eyes so much. It's been a long time since I've seen a cast so self-aware and bored with every single line they utter. If this made-for-tv film was a couple decades older, Joel and the Robots would have torn it to pieces.

About the only highlight was killer lawyer lady in a lacy bra, and they already gave that up in the commercials that have been running non-stop for a month anyway.

Tuned in because I'm a Mark Harmon fan, but was extremely disappointed with everyone involved. I felt the same as that traffic cop that pulled the main character over, as he stood there starring at Mark, not knowing what to do with himself as the guy he pulled over for going "60 miles over the limit," put him on the back-burner. Note to the production staff: that model Porsche has a rear spoiler that lifts up whenever the car is traveling faster than 45 mph, and it was down when the cop clocked him. Hell, it was down when he was "dangerously" weaving in and out of traffic, so unless the speed limit for that section of road is -20mph, that cop was just a tourist-harassing quota-filling jerk with bike and a badge.

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[–] silverfox21 13 years ago

I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thought MHarmon did a great job portraying Lucas and the others actors played their characters so well too. It's a made for TV Movie not a big budget blockbuster. I would like to see more Certain Prey films.

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[–] author004 13 years ago

Mark Harmon is the executive producer; I have a feeling there will be more. There are 21 books in the series. Certain Prey is actually the 10th. If you Liked it, you should hope for number 13 ... you might just see a familiar character!

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[–] SevernSarge 13 years ago

To answer the "No Del, no Sloan?" comment...

Sloan was in there, if somewhat different from the book character.
Del Capslock is not in the novel "Certain Prey".

I love the books, and found this watchable, if not spectacular.
Cheers!

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[–] ObsessedWithNCIS 13 years ago

I never read the books and I followed it just fine. I absolutely loved it.

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[–] steelsheen91 13 years ago

it could have been worse it could have been a carbon copy of the totally unwatchable Dr. Benton version. This thing was a misfire on nearly every level but it was at least minimally watchable, though just barely at that.

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[–] chipe 13 years ago

My take, posted on another board:

The movie is a tremendous embarrassment and failure from virtually every standpoint. I can see why they didn't send it to reviewers prior to "opening night." Besides a few shows and cable news, I don't watch much TV, and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It's as good a sign as any that America is in serious decline. From the very beginning, the language of seemingly all the characters offended me. Also childish, as well as offensive, was the fact that every character seemed to be sleeping with everyone else. I was appalled by the violence. They witlessly and childishly put the worst traits of traditional male characters into the female characters here. Everyone was described as the "best" -- best lawyer in town, etc. The solving of the case seemed riddled with plot holes and miraculous assumptions and luck. The motivation for the murder of the wife seemed unbelievable -- a high-powered successful lady lawyer kills the wife of a man she has a one-time quickie with in the bathroom of a party 2 years ago because the husband doesn't return her affection!!! I can't recall any good reason for "Gibbs" zeroing in on the night club owned by the serial killer. I didn't like someone in the deputy police chief's position breaking into the woman's apartment under the circumstances (and great "luck" finding a bullet and spotting the key phone call entry). His violent "interrogation" scene was a joke. I didn't like many of the supporting cast. Finally, I couldn't believe that "Gibbs'" rainbow staff defied him so -- they couldn't take "no" when he wouldn't disclose what he was doing at the moment, and they went so incredibly far as to blackmail him into divulging the info by threatening to reveal a past sexual dalliance as sexual harassment! They should have been fired. "Gibbs" character here was too retro and silly -- fast cars and women, fancy dresser, rich computer guy retiring to be top cop. Remarkable that the big-time hit-woman could miss Gibbs at the end.

I liked Harmon in the movie, though.

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[–] jennielucas 13 years ago

I couldn't bring myself to watch it. I always pictured Vincent D'Onofrio as Lucas and Holly Hunter as his nemesis. A TVM is limited in what it can bring in terms of details, but when the casting alone rubs the wrong way . . no way was I going to waste time on this.

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[–] xenatikkanen-1 12 years ago

Think about how horrid John Sandford's Certain Prey was. This was the worst piece of junk I have ever seen, and I feel like Mark Harmon should lose NCIS because of it. He used to be such a good actor = WTH????????? He was awful, but the rest of the cast was worse. So wooden, I wanted to punch the tv and every actor in the show. On top of that, the story was so absolutely ridiculous that I wanted to turn it off. The only person in that that amused me was the detective that was partnering with Athena Karkanis' Marcy. He was a terrible actor, but had a hilarious part. That is 2 hours I can never get back. At least Innocent was just cheesy and stupid. Certain Prey was criminal. I am still mad about it. LOL

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[–] KathleenPhelan 12 years ago

You think MH should lose NCIS because of this?? WTF? He does an excellent job on the show just because the other project didn't work out for you (and maybe me) I would never ever punish him by saying he should lose his job as star or EP. He has put alot of time and energy and his very much a team player when it comes to NCIS...How would you like it I said you should lose your job over something you did??? YOu would probably tell me to *beep* off. Consider this your *beep* off.
Kate
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[–] xenatikkanen-1 12 years ago

WTF is wrong with you. I was joking. OMG, are you really serious? Why would you immediately assume how I am going react to you and act that way? I don't get it. You don't know me, and you basically insult me because you weren't perceptive enough to realize I was joking. Do you really think that Mark Harmon, who has been around forever, is going to lose his job on a successful tv show because one person said what I did????????????????? Seriously? Take your medication if that is the case, and stop insulting people until you actually are insulted. I mean, PLEASE!

A) Mark Harmon is someone who I have loved since the 70s, so get off of your high horse. He was FANTASTIC as Ted Bundy in The Deliberate Stranger. My best friend and I actually quote from that movie a lot.

B) Mark Harmon, son of Tom Harmon (UCLA football great), and philanthropist as well as longtime actor, is not going to be fired on MY say so. Oy vey.

C) Mark was absolutely horrid in Certain Prey. No iffs ands or buts. The fact the entire cast was 100 times worse, so Mark was the least of my problem with Certain Prey.

D) Calm the *beep* down.

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[–] KathleenPhelan 12 years ago

You sounded serious to me.
Kate
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[–] xenatikkanen-1 12 years ago

Well I wasn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

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[–] eastcoastguyz 12 years ago

I was channeling surfing and saw Mark Harmon in it and the woman who was on The Sopranos (didn't know her name at the time). So I set up the DVR to record this knowing nothing else about the movie. As the credit rolled and I saw that Mark Harmon was not only starring in this but was the Executive Producer, I feared the worst and wasn't disappointed.

I didn't know this was adapted from a book. Was the book good?

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[–] blackstone454 12 years ago

Whether you find it good or not-the book-depends on what you like to read.

The books are detailed, intricate, brutal, R-Rated...Davenport is a mean, womanizing, determined, tempermental, f-bomb dropping bad-ass.

I just saw this movie...It's very...light and uninspired. The book would have deserved HBO style treatment...Uncensored...Maybe a mini-series...

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[–] Xcalat3 12 years ago

sure it could have been worse, but yeah it is *beep* bad.

When there's no more room in hell, The dead will walk the earth...

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[–] WGrecords 11 years ago

Two words, Jack Reacher

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[–] melkiades 11 years ago

I don't understand for a second :

1. why I even started that crap movie on Netflix without reading about it on imdb
2. why Netflix wastes our time with such garbage (they rate it 3.4/5 the morons!!)
3. how can someone be so stupid to cast this actor? Don Johnson would have done a better job
4. why he played with such little to no conviction: his tone is always the same, low, sad, lacking energy, his face has one single goddamned expression. The same applies to all actors almost...as if they had sucked the life out of their nostrils right before yelling action at wvery scene they shot.

What a pitiful insult to story-telling and cinematography this movie is.

Melkiades

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