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some thoughts about the characters...


I've seen this movie twice and I'm wondering about the 2 main characters motives. I've turned it around and around, trying to analyze it as humanly as possible, and also with some logical senses.

Don't read if you don't want to know the plot.

Mia seems to me kind of 'lost' in her life. She's doing what everyone expected her of, going with the flow, living in the comfort of a mutual love with a partner that reassures her. But her wedding seems to put her into some stress, deep and nagging stress that she maybe refuses or puts the credit to the wedding itself, not the fact that deep inside her she feels off about her partner. Put on top of that some father-daughter conflict climaxing with her father not telling her he wasn't to be there on the island.
Here comes Frida, who seems to feel on the contrary self assured, playful, and not to mention attractive. She's open about her sexual orientation, her family accepts it naturally, she's living with her beloved partner. Seems an ideal life to me, don't you think ?
So when Mia initiates the kiss in the forest, it made sense to me. What I don't understand is the way Frida reacts to that kiss. Ok she responded to it, kissing back and she seems to enjoy it, I'm fine with the 'go with the flow' attitude. What I don't understand is why she initiates the 'swimming' in the lake, the kiss interrupted by the mother, and what follows in their rooms later that night.
Frida has been through a break up that wounded her it seems the mother tells later. She can indeed be attracted to more than one person, but why is she acting on that attraction ? Why ? Because of strength of her feelings for Mia ? I'm wondering why this pushing on Mia ? For the sake of it ? Mia's going to get married, Frida knows it. Even if Mia need to think again about her wedding, some serious chat could've make the deal of reevaluating her life, isn't it ? Why jeopardize everything she (Frida) has to chase after someone engaged, ready to me married, when she's in a loving and fullfilling relationship herself, and she's been badly wounded in a breakup... I'm puzzled about her behavior...

Here are my thoughts to discuss if you want to.

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Frida initiates the other kisses and sex simply because she can't help herself. She has been drawn to/possibly in love with Mia from the second she saw her. She can't keep her eyes off her from that second, she flirts with her all the way to the island and on it. So we know she is in the middle of a helpless attraction and passionate emotions. Like Mia, she too is in a relationship that's not about love, it's about comfort and being safe. Elin was safe because she couldn't break her heart. Mia was passion, someone she couldn't not love or not be with if it was possibility. So in the end Frida's past experiences of being cheated on and her ethics just weren't enough to stop her acting on these feelings she'd never had before. Remember she says she'd never met anyone that turned her world upside down. Until Mia.

Love made Frida a hypocrite which we see her bitterly regret at times. Yet she loves too strongly to let it stop her going after something she knows is once in a lifetime for both of them. Neither main character is perfect, they're good people but they make selfish mistakes and they hurt their partners. It's not a perfect love story with infaliable characters. It's a compilcated situation and story. Sadly two people had to be hurt in the process but even without this I don't believe they would have kept Frida and Mia longterm anyway. Both were already unsatisfied in their current relationships.

I'd die for you. I love you. I love you so much it's killing me.

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Beautifully said. I agree with your interpretation completely.

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I loved reading your interpretation. Spot on! it wasn't just Frida, Mia and Frida both showed instant attraction towards each other on the birthday party night. Mia just had a different way of expressing purely because she didn't think she was bisexual (or even a lesbian?)

This was one of the most sensually beautiful movies I've seen in a long time. I cared for Frida and Mia equally.

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Both of them were attracted to each other the moment they met and their eyes said it all. They kept looking at each other, so it's no wonder that Frida immediately kissed back or initiated the following scenes. However, it's kinda strange that nobody told Mia, that Frida likes women. And on top of that she started it first and not the other way around. It means that Mia always preferred women but she suppressed it and when she met Frida, the passion within her arose again. She even said something like "would she [Frida] be jealous if she said she still loved her first girlfriend". But yeah Frida went against her moral values and dreamt of a life with Mia. I guess love really turns your world upside down as in their case. Both of them were serious enough to part with their partners.

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No-one needed to tell Mia that Frida liked women. She was blatantly flirting with her on the way to the island and on it. So she knew Frida was attracted to her, she'd also sounded her out about seeing Oskar and if she'd been married etc. That was her checking she wasn't seeing any men, it's then she knew Frida was probably a lesbian or at least bisexual, like herself. So she knew a kiss wouldn't be unwelcome, especially after they'd a sort of moment during the cigarette scene.

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Mia being bisexual has been discussed somewhat here and on other Kyss mig boards and I wanted to add my comment to the fray. I don't think Mia is bisexual--despite Frida first describing Mia as possibly bisexual in the scene where she tells Elisabeth that they have been together.

I think Mia is a lesbian who 'settled' for the security of a heterosexual relationship until she met Frida and was truly swept away. She was distracted in her relationship with Tim where she was more safe and comfortable than passionate and intense as with Frida. Her and Frida getting together and both making such big life changes, really signals to me Mia has been repressing her lesbian tendencies for many years and tried to bury her feelings by drowning them in a sea of conventional heterosexuality. If she was bisexual, she would have celebrated that part of herself as well, and not purposely hid her previous relationship with a woman from Tim.

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Mia is bisexual, it's made clear by what the character says. And the director and actresses have said she is bisexual, she's based somewhat on the bisexual directors own personal experiences.

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The "first kiss" is much discussed on these and other "Kyss mig" boards and admittedly, on first viewing, I too thought that first kiss came a bit quickly and without much context beyond a few exchanged, intrigued glances shared by Mia and Frida. What becomes apparent after a much closer and subsequent viewing of the film is how very, very electric the chemistry between Frida and Mia truly is.

"Chemistry" between people has become a misnomer of sorts by those who may have never experienced it in real life. "Chemistry" is often substituted for what is actually, a high level of compatibility, comfort or sexual tension in the presence of another. "Real Chemistry" is exactly that-- a chemical reaction between the sex hormones--pheromones, oxytocin levels, etc.--of the people involved. It is powerful and creates major physiologic, mental and emotional changes of those involved. If you have ever experienced it, you'd know. Quick story: While dating someone some years ago, we worked in the same building and had both visited the same office within minutes of each other, without actually seeing one another. Minutes after I left this office, she entered, began to speak and then stopped mid-sentence, lifted her head and sniffed the air asking, "Was ItGirl here?" We had mind-blowing sex, but were not very compatible, yet this dating went on for a year. We had Chemistry.

Chemistry can also signal a deep connection--LOVE, which in the case of Frida and Mia seems the real reason both were so quick to come together and then both risk their personal relationship security and make life-changing decisions. Mia not only ends her engagement and relationship with Tim, but comes out to her father which seems to signal a reconciliation from what had been a strained relationship. Frida goes against her deeply-held beliefs about infidelity because she feels something she has NEVER previously experienced, as does Mia.

It would appear by all that transpires on film, this budding relationship is of the brand all great love stories are written about and what we all really yearn for in our own lives. Watch "Kiss Me" again with eyes and ears trained to the subtlety and subtext so beautifully played out on-screen by this terrific ensemble cast of actors, and see if you don't agree.

May all of us get to experience that level of "Chemistry" in our own lives at least once.

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Well said.

Ever heard of the expression: All if fair in love and war?

I believe when someone has chemistry, it just works. You can list all the flaws and strengths you want in someone, but chemistry and love are two separate things and sometimes they go hand in hand, sometimes they don't.

If anyone has experience great love at least once, where everything was perfect and just being with someone else made you smile from the inside out, this movie (and others like it) make sense.

Personally, I've been in relationships over a year and never uttered the words I love you, but I fell in love once, and it happened in 2 weeks. These complex feelings, do not have "logic".

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Well said.

To everyone, ever heard of the expression: All is fair in love and war?

I believe when someone has chemistry, it just works. You can list all the flaws and strengths you want in someone, but chemistry and love are two separate things and sometimes they go hand in hand, sometimes they don't.

If anyone has experience great love at least once, where everything was perfect and just being with someone else made you smile from the inside out, this movie (and others like it) make sense.

Personally, I've been in relationships over a year and never uttered the words I love you, but I fell in love once, and it happened in 2 weeks. These complex feelings, do not have "logic".

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Mia seems to me kind of 'lost' in her life. She's doing what everyone expected her of, going with the flow, living in the comfort of a mutual love with a partner that reassures her. But her wedding seems to put her into some stress, deep and nagging stress that she maybe refuses or puts the credit to the wedding itself, not the fact that deep inside her she feels off about her partner. Put on top of that some father-daughter conflict climaxing with her father not telling her he wasn't to be there on the island.

Lesbian/Gay films seem to use this logic to get to the Story's affair. It seems that it is logical, but when one thinks about it it would be rarity. If the gal had not showed up she would have married the guy. The fiance was in her life for seven years. We can go out on a limb and say she did love him. Otherwise why was she marrying him. I don't think for a minute she was doing this out of pressure from society. If a pregnancy was there then that could force the issue. But it was not. I did not remember if there was serious talk on kids. But we can assume it was discussed in length over the years. [or did I miss this part]His world is shattered. The short answer is she wanted out and it seemed she took the quickest route. I felt if someone could do this after seven years then the partner is more likely to get the same at some point. Love is complicated but to not treat it with some kind of respect it can be lost. Despite her affection for the gal She betrayed someone with there was no respect for the love the fiancee had with her. There was very little thought on her about him.

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