ideal year for BR2?


While initially it looked like BR2049 could be abit of a blockbuster (see here https://moviechat.org/tt1856101/Blade-Runner-2049/59fddd440240fe0012b5ef58/LOL-check-out-this-guys-Box-Office-estimate?reply=59ff028d691d140012e901be) think its safe to now say BR2 couldn't have come at a worse time when non stop action superhero movies rule the cinematic roost (similar to when BR/The Thing came out in 82 when feel good Spielberg/Lucas SF like SW/ET etc ruled) so been wondering when the ideal time would've been for BR2 (still written by Hampton and somewhat similar to BR2049)

1992 was the Directors Cut in cinemas so that was a big year for BR (it was like a culmination of the BR cult - fans whod already knew about the mythical alternate cut and even people that had never seen BR were checking out this new superior version of the ahead of its time cult SF movie), then you had the CD soundtrack in 1994 at last and there were the BR sequel novels and the Paul Sammon Making Of book around then as well so the 90s were a big time for BR. Also R rated SF films were a big deal in the 90s (1991s T2 sort of loomed over the decade until 1999s Matrix) which probably had its origins in 82s BR (i.e that's when the cinematic seed was planted for cyberpunk dystopian SF and then followed all the similar R rated SF - Terminator, Aliens, etc but BR had to wait about 10y to really enter the zeitgeist)

so if the rights had been sorted out at some point after the Directors Cut and Hampton had drafted out something similar to BR2049 and Scott had come back as director (and bearing in mind how long it took BR2049 to come out after it was announced in 2011)..then maybe 1997 (like 2017 there was an Alien and Star Wars movie in cinemas) on the cusp of the 21st Century, and come before all the other late 90s dark SF movies questioning reality -Matrix, Dark City, 13th Floor, Fight Club etc (1995s Johnny Mnemonic had been an attempt at a sort of Blade Runner for the 90s maybe due in part to the resurgence/popularity of the BR:DC.. but had flopped but that was mainly due to it being a terrible movie).

starring 55 year old Ford (Ford still a big deal name above the title movie star in the 90s like Arnie, Cruise etc with several huge hits like Fugitive, Clear & Present Danger, Air Force 1) and some young 90s dude as K (Ed Burns? or maybe Pitt could've done BR2 with Ford instead of Devils Own) maybe Edward James Olmos/Gaff now as his boss, with Bowie as Wallace of course and whichever new 90s babes as Joi (JLo? Denise Richards?) and Luv (Milla Jovovich? Zeta Jones?). And maybe Rutger would've come back somehow (another Batty replicant) CGI was in its early stages but would've been able to handle the stuff in BR2049 just see what they did with 5th Element (alot of stuff was done practical anyway) and set 10 or 20 years after the events of BR1 - so 'Blade Runner 2029'

anyway it probably would've done a lot better at the box office (Ford, a climate of R rated SF movies of the time, and BR being a bigger thing in the 90s due to the DC) - it might've been enough to given BR2 similar box office to The Matrix (which might've led to a BR3 in the 00s)

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Good chronology of BR events. I recall being ecstatic when the Vangelis soundtrack finally became available in 1994 (almost wore-out that CD)! I've read the Paul Sammons (1995 or 1996) book on the making of BR. I also watched the 1992 release at the Cineplex Odeon Uptown theater and the lines to get in were tremendous. I went to the 2007 "final cut" early, expecting long lines, and...nothing. The theater might have been 1/4th full. I was very disappointed.

So, I'd say mid-90s would have been an ideal time for the sequel. By 2007 the mainstream interest had dropped greatly so mostly the true fans were left (and we are legion, but not going to make BR2049 as successful as Thor Ragnarok). Etc.

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cool memories. would love to have seen the DC in the cinema in 92 (saw T2 in cinema though so was old enough for a 15).. . don't think I watched BR (theatrical cut) until maybe 93/94? and didn't get round to seeing the Final Cut at the cinema probably felt seen it too much by then. the thought of having missed out on my first viewing of BR being the DC at the cinema is galling to me

the reason I chose 97 was say if they secured the rights in 92 (after the DC) then figured it would still take them a few years to put it together (like when 2049 was first announced in 2011)

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I think this year was as good as any, especially as it stands out so much against the rest of the big movies this year... in the 90s, it could have gotten lost...

As for an alternative, it should have been made to be released a few years after the 3rd Matrix movie and after the financial crisis so that the dystopian elements would resonate more, but also not be too important... Maybe between 2010 and 2011...

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2010/11 (coming soon after Fords Indy comeback like now with TFA) still think would've had similar box office to now. maybe around 2002/03 would've been the latest year a BR2 would have any serious impact? (T3 and Matrix 2/3 were all big in 2003 which might've helped?)

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or maybe 2007 would've been a better date (to coincide with Final Cut which was in cinemas)

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Just re watched Ford in The Devils Own on one of those free movie channels (actually saw it in cinema in 97 and again on VHS a few years later so as was watching it all felt familiar). Kept thinking about Blade Runner 2049 when watching and how it could've been made instead of this movie (which didn't do well, was critically panned and neither Ford or Pitt like it) with Pitt as K. anyway because of that I noticed this time the ending seemed quite reminiscent of the end of Blade Runner, maybe they were struggling trying to decide how to end it so did a quick copy and paste of Blade Runner (esp as BR had comeback/was all cool back then) - cop Ford hunting the last blonde replicant/IRA terrorist then watches him die as he spouts meaningful dialogue/close up Ford face

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I guess The Shining sequel and Terminator Dark Fate are suffering a similar 'missed window' syndrome as BR2049 (long belated sequel that came out too long for the mass audience to care)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/11/11/box-office-doctor-sleep-failed-to-learn-the-lessons-of-blade-runner-2049/

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That's is it. When I watched it in the theater, all males, all middle age. I knew that was not a good sign.

Can a sequal be considered a classic in 50 years if gen y and z did not watch it when it was released?

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todays current generation that goes to the movies on mass for Marvel, F&F etc just do not care about the old R rated SF franchises like Blade Runner, Terminator, Shining, Alien, Predator that us 40 something guys still obsess over like its still the 90s (and they'll only care about StarWars because they saw the prequels as kids and were indoctrinated with the original trilogy by their dads dvds - unlike all the 80s R rated SF films they were too young for and have no interest in any was as they so very old and star really old actors when they were young)

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