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I am not interested in seeing Dennis V's interpretation of Blade Runner.


I just am not. Blade Runner was a complete movie. It's theme was about humanity and the love for life and the first movie covered that pretty well. People think it's about a cop chasing androids. That's the back drop. The true theme is what I stat d above. And Phillip K. Dick didn't write any sequel, so why should there be one.

And Blade Runner had one of the best closing segments in the history of movies. The Orion speech was classic and the perfect ending to the story, which does not need to be revisited.

Dennis Villeneuve is a "diet" sci-fi director. The studio handing him this movie is the same as when WB hand Superman over to Zach Snyder thinking that he was a comic book director.

And this whole desert thing going on in the trailer, Harrison Ford getting second billing, it all just won't work. Ryan Gosling is not the new Harrison Ford.

I am just gonna state what people are gonna state after seeing the movie: It just didn't work!

Also, Prometheus anyone???

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Also, Prometheus anyone???

Ah, but that's Ridley Scott!

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So? Ridley Scott has gone down the drain like other once great directors. My point was that it was senseless to make a prequel to Alien just like it's senseless to make a sequel to Blade Runner.

I don't really want to get into how bad of a director Dennis Villeneuve is, but I'll say this about Sicario. Why did the CIA need such a Girl Scout like Emily Blunt's character to carry out a covert CIA operation in the US???? The CIA could've found any other DEA/FBI agent in the whole of America who would've been cool with signing off on anything the CIA handed him. Besides, to begin with, that is not the way the CIA would launch a covert op in the US with some lowly agent as an accomplice. I mean the bar has been set so low that stupid plot holes are just brushed away and mediocre or above mediocre movies like Arrival or Sicario are considered masterpieces.

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Sicario and arrival have stories with actual characters


Blade runner was a film that's only liked because of age...nothing more

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Having "actual characters" is not enough to make a movie good. Besides what makes you think that Blade Runner did not have "actual characters"??? They friggin gave all the androids "characteristics." Did you see it with your brain closed??

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2049 is a film made for people like me who are looking forward to the sequel. To deny people like me wanting a sequel only because you don't want one is not fair to me. I feel it's also unfair to judge a film before you've even seen it. If you don't feel a sequel is warranted or don't even want to watch it out of curiosity, then that's fine. But it doesn't change the fact that I'm very excited about it. Regardless of how the sequel fairs, it doesn't change the original. The original will always be just that, the original!

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Yeah, 2049 is being made just for people like you. People who are fanboys. The ones who didn't understand the concept of the first. They just want to make a quick buck off of people like you. This movie is not art.

Look, I would love to see The continuing adventures of Richard Deckard or a whole new sequel set to the Back to the Future series. But just as an example, it would be impossible to make any sequel to Back to the Future series without people staring to ask: Hey why don't they go back in time and kill Hitler or prevent the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Just like the movie Minions. The Minions would follow the most evil person, so when the age of Hitler came about, they just showed that the minions were trapped at the North/South pole so they couldn't follow Hitler. What ended up was that people started saying it was a needless sequel.

If you want the studio to defraud you ou of your money then by all means do so. Just remember this is a studio initiated film like Alien-3 etc. and not a passion project so it'll most likely suck. Sorry to dampen your spirits.

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No one's going to respect your opinion until you start respecting. To say that anyone who is excited about a sequel "didn't understand the concept" of the first film comes off as hilariously condescending.

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I dislike the presence of Harrison Ford, he could single handedly ruin the movie. This guy just suk and needs to retire, he belongs to a museum. However, they could have done something new in the same universe. I heard in Philip K Dick's novel, the story is from the point of view of the Nexus 6 replicants. They could have gone this way instead of Deckard 2.0 .

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Well, they did give it from the replicants perspective including Deckards perspective, as in any good movie you have to basically give the agonist and antagonist character and screen time. In fact, the replicants got more screen time than Harrison Ford.

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Can you name a better sci-fi director in the modern age than Denis Villineuve?
I'm legitimately curious, because if there's a filmmaker making something better than Arrival that I couldn't see for whatever reason, please do share it.

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Who said that Blade Runner needs a sci-fi director ?

Ridley Scott was not a sci-fi director.
He just hired people that were good at sci-fi design: H.R. Giger & Syd Mead.

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check mate , perfect argument by arnold

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Aside from the laughable Zack Snyder comparisons, I more or less feel the same. I’m still going to give it a chance though, especially if the reviews are good enough.

Not sold on all of it yet (that trailer may change things), but nevertheless I’m intrigued by what’s been shown so far.

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The only reason why I'm remotely interested in the sequel is Villeneuve. Otherwise Gosling is a pass, Leto is a pass, Old Man Ford is a pass. And don't get me started on Ridley Scott resurrecting all his best work with sub-par follow ups.

Hopefully Villeneuve can make this his own, make it interesting and make it good.

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zach snyder is a visionary

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Well I and many others actually liked Prometheus as a prequel.

But I agree that I have no interest in watching Blade Runner 2. Oh and the actors they've chosen are pretty boring choices imo. Seriously, Gosling?

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