I absolutely hate Doug.


the entire liver transplant story made me absolutely sick. I really liked him and admired his loyalty in the first season but have hated him since. His sick devotion to Frank is so off-putting. Obviously Frank and Claire are the most evil on the show but there is something purer about their self-interested machinations. But Doug isn't even doing all this for himself or his career... he is obsessed with Frank and it is just vile. I can't even quite put it into words ..

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The only thing I didn't really get was his donation to the lady who's husband didn't get the transplant. Maybe he feels guilty (he probably should) but then trying to put the moves on the dead guy's wife seems a bit low, even for Doug.



He's guilt started to kick in. But, Doug maneuvering to get Frank's name to the top of the list should not surprise anyone. He's fascination with the dead's man wife shouldn't either. He did the same thing with Rachel in season 1 & 2. Doug sees something he likes and he's focus becomes relentless.



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Absolutely *beep* that. If we follow your logic, Doug should've found an acceptable donor and killed him/her to get Frank the liver.

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He just killed the other man instead.

Doug is one of the sleaziest characters ever on TV.

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He did kill him by preventing him from receiving the liver that ended up in Underdwood.

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But the man who died was hours away from dying, the president wasn't. He literally killed him.

And he shouldn't 'probably' feel guilt, he should absolutely feel guilt.

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Doug directly caused the death of a man who was not going to die if he got that liver. Doug killed him just as sure as he killed Rachel.

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That's not how the law worked, otherwise Doug would not have needed to get involved. So Doug killed the guy.

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I am flummoxed, I didn't even know God had an IMDB account.

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That would have been too obvious. The President getting a transplant with what amounts to be a black market liver? What respectable doctor would do this? Certainly not one that would be operating on the President of the US.

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I was talking strictly "right v wrong" and the fallacy in equityoptionguru's logic. That being said, the Underwoods and Doug have gotten away with far worse than a black market liver transplant so I fail to see that as an insurmountable obstacle for them.

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I thought he was going to do just that.

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But in terms of importance to the country, the president needs to live at all cost.

There's a reason we have a Vice President and a line of succession beyond that. The President isn't some warlord keeping the country together through his own personal power. If he dies, the VP takes over. We don't have to worry about a civil war as various claimants try to seize control.

I can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people.

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[Doug's] "fascination with the dead's man wife shouldn't either. He did the same thing with Rachel in season 1 & 2. Doug sees something he likes and his focus becomes relentless."

I used to admire Doug's discipline, but it turned creepy a long time ago. What's most creepy, beyond the premeditated murder, are the romantic relationships he forms with vulnerable women (Rachel, the widow), where he approaches them from a position of control & manipulation. The widow has more of a support system, so it will be interesting to see how Doug tries to control her. I remember Rachel reading to him & he seemed attached to her. He's certainly a complex character in his personal life.

It would be entertaining to see Doug's loyalty turn on Frank, since his absolute loyalty is a given presently.

A talent is formed in stillness, a character in the world's torrent.
-Johann Goethe, Torquato Tasso

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Doug is one of my favorite characters from the show. He is the badass that does the dirty work that needs to be done. He does have his flaws like his obsessions with that young girl and then the dead guys wife, being stubborn, controlling, and OCD. When he donated I was like Noooo don't do it! Because I knew it would eventually get traced back to Frank. (It will in season 5. Watch for it)

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I totally agree. Doug is my favorite character on the show. He is a bad ass that gets the job done! How funny was it when Seth became "obedient" to Doug

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I like how he seems so calm yet is an absolute dragon. Rawr! Would you get a load of these comments about how reprehensible it is for me to like a character like him? It's a friggin TV show!! Of course I wouldn't like a person in real life who was like that! I hated that he killed that girl, but I understood why the character had to do it. Do I like that these things happen in real life? Of course not! I think the Clintons should be in jail and not running for a 3rd term! Millions of people root for villains in of every kind and I assure you there is nothing wrong with them. My dad always enjoyed evil characters like Vader, Dr. Doom, J.R. Ewing and such. He would've loved Stamper.

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I don't think he put the moves on her, or at least it was a mutual attraction/hole-filling.

He gave money to wash his hands of her husband's blood. It was her who called him up to meet up in person.

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He gave money to wash his hands of her husband's blood.


I think it was because he was attracted to her. He kept lingering over her photo on the website, he wasn't looking at photos of the man himself or the couple's children, as he might if he felt guilty.

Arthur, put the kettle on and dig out those lemon hand wipes.

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In real life he would be deplorable, but in the show I love the complexity of his psychopathic personality, as well as the pitifulness of his character. I thought it was brilliant writing how we were led to believe that he might have feelings of guilt about the father/husband that was passed up on the donor list, when in reality he was just lusting after the guy's wife.

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Murdering Rachel and burying her in the desert you're okay with, but giving charity to a woman who lost her husband, out of guilt is just crossing the line?

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I think the person means that the line is being crossed by trying to have a relationship with her. That in part is fairly creepy.

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I kind of got the impression, like with the cliche' of the straw that breaks the camels back, it is the weight of his past that weighs on him more and just this latest injustice he's responsible for was the latest if not last straw.

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She will be another organ donor.

I'm sorry the Coen brothers don't direct the porn I watch. They're hard to get ahold of, okay?

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I felt like his character lost direction after season two and the writers really don't know what to do with him anymore.

The lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of sheep.

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I don't know about the rest of you, but the fact that both the President and his Chief of Staff are first degree murderers sends chills up my spine. Considering that, I find it hard to have sympathy for or excuse anything that they do. They should both be in prison. Or executed.

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Honestly, a man (if you want to use that term) so reckless and childlike would never make it this far in life. His characterization must've been developed as shock value rather than a realistic portrayal of someone with power. Either way, at this point in the story line, I see him as a child; a big baby throwing tantrums when something doesn't go his way. It is quite sad. His character is pointless now, and contributes nothing to any aspect of story. And I agree, the whole liver transplant story arc made sick, too. Not in a million years would a story like that happen - him threatening to dismantle a whole department in the middle of the country knowing that the president needs a liver would never fly. If I were in such a position, I would honestly say, "Go ahead. Let's see how that plays. Please leave my office". I am thinking this will be used against Underwood.

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Honestly, a man (if you want to use that term) so reckless and childlike would never make it this far in life. His characterization must've been developed as shock value rather than a realistic portrayal of someone with power. Either way, at this point in the story line, I see him as a child; a big baby throwing tantrums when something doesn't go his way. It is quite sad. His character is pointless now, and contributes nothing to any aspect of story. And I agree, the whole liver transplant story arc made sick, too. Not in a million years would a story like that happen - him threatening to dismantle a whole department in the middle of the country knowing that the president needs a liver would never fly. If I were in such a position, I would honestly say, "Go ahead. Let's see how that plays. Please leave my office". I am thinking this will be used against Underwood.


You've got to remember that Doug Stamper for many years before S1 of HOS was a relatively up together and ruthlessly efficient functionary until he got captivated by his first female victim, Rachel, and suffered a severe head injury and relapse into alcoholism as a result. And his brain injury, with sudden mood swings, must have a negative effect on an obsessive workaholic already as borderline sociopathic and paranoid as Doug Stamper (hence his violent tantrums with Seth and over the new female colleague played by Neve).

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Doug is a sick man. He is in the same category as dahmer and manson. i just hope in season 5 they finally do him in .

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He is the creepiest of the many creepy in this show.

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There's a not dissimilar character (Russell Jackson) in 'Madam Chipmunk', er, that is to say, 'Madam Secretary'. He even LOOKS like Doug!

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In my opinion, I think since Doug stopped drinking he had to devote his life to something. Maybe it is Underwoods or his job for the government. But I think what is most likely is there is some back story where Frank got him out of a jam, and Doug complied from there on out. I think Doug is 75% Underwoods 25% government job duty.

The thing about happiness is that you only know you had it when it's gone. -Kellog

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