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Great scene with Hook and Belle

posted 8 years ago by Zanza8
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So much for the crabbing that Killian is not sorry for what he's done. He's so sorry that he doesn't expect Belle to forgive him and he hasn't forgiven himself. He's seeing redemption as a journey, not a destination, and helping Belle is one more step on that journey. That was pure Hook, though, that he enjoys the thought of Rumple's discomfiture if he finds out Belle is on the Jolly Roger. Although I do wonder what is going on in his mind there, because I don't think the Jolly Roger has any magic to keep Rumple out.

http://thinkingoutloud-descartes.blogspot.com/

[–] eliduhh1 8 years ago

hook's one of the most self aware characters on this show, it's nice the writers keep having that be a core trait to his character.

i don't get why people WANT hook to be buddy with rumple tbh. just because you're trying to change your life around doesn't mean you have to force yourself to like the person who handicapped you & killed your once love (twice). i find the hook/rumple dyanmic to be one of the most "real" ones because yeah they tolerate each other, no longer trying to kill each other but they still hate each other and that's okay. sometimes there's too much history/bad feelings for there to be a "let's be bffs pact" and theirs is one.

after their scene last night, i'm even more stoked for episode 4. more hook&belle, more hook protecting/helping belle.

[–] torgerrose1 8 years ago

This. The Hook/Rumple relationship is basically the exact relationship Emma and Regina should have. Toleration for the sake of peace.

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[–] Zanza8 8 years ago

I can't imagine Killian and Rumple ever being friends. Grudging tolerance is about as high as I see them going, and I can't imagine Rumple getting that high.

hook's one of the most self aware characters on this show, it's nice the writers keep having that be a core trait to his character.

I like it too. It's what gives him such great insight into the other characters and what helps him with trying to be a better person.

after their scene last night, i'm even more stoked for episode 4. more hook&belle, more hook protecting/helping belle.

Me too. I predict Rumple will make it all about himself, that Killian is only helping Belle to hurt him. It would never occur to Rumple that Belle might have a right to have friends of her own or go to them for help and that it's not about hurting him but helping herself.

http://thinkingoutloud-descartes.blogspot.com/

[–] skoobydoo6789 8 years ago

I really liked that scene. Shows that Hook is growing as a character.

If it's all the same to you, I'll have that drink now.-Loki (Marvel's Avengers)

[–] Zanza8 8 years ago

I really liked that scene. Shows that Hook is growing as a character.

It did show growth, in that he's very aware that what he did was very wrong and he might never forgive himself for it. I think Killian has accepted redemption is a journey, not a destination, which gives me hope he will continue to grow into a better man.

http://thinkingoutloud-descartes.blogspot.com/

[–] skoobydoo6789 8 years ago

I think you are right about that.

If it's all the same to you, I'll have that drink now.-Loki (Marvel's Avengers)

[–] Thoraxe-the-Impaler 8 years ago

So much for the crabbing that Killian is not sorry for what he's done.

*Rolls eyes* People getting annoyed that Belle immediately forgave the guy that tried to kill her multiple times and even trusted her husband's DAGGER to who she thought the guy that tried to kill him multiple times in s4 and only gave an unsympathetic 'sorry?" cause he was put on the spot is a legitimate complaint. It's legitimate with Regina, it'd be legitimate with Rumple if they'd written someone like Milah forgiving him.

I'm glad he finally apologized, it's a long time coming, and if they'd written it this way back in S3, I'd like the friendship and character a whole lot more.

[–] Zanza8 8 years ago

*Rolls eyes* People getting annoyed that Belle immediately forgave the guy that tried to kill her multiple times and even trusted her husband's DAGGER to who she thought the guy that tried to kill him multiple times in s4 and only gave an unsympathetic 'sorry?" cause he was put on the spot is a legitimate complaint. It's legitimate with Regina, it'd be legitimate with Rumple if they'd written someone like Milah forgiving him.

Killian's offhand "sorry" was a lot more meaningful to Belle than all Rumple's flowery apologies because Killian acted sorry afterwards. You can roll your eyes all you want, it's not going to change the fact that actions speak louder than words. And you could at least be truthful. Multiple times? What multiple times? Hook shot Belle, and he tried to kill her in the tower. That's two times. You must have those attempts confused with Rumple's multiple lies, year after year after year.

I'm glad he finally apologized, it's a long time coming, and if they'd written it this way back in S3, I'd like the friendship and character a whole lot more.

He hasn't "finally" apologized. He said he was sorry before and he acted sorry, and he's saying he's sorry again. You may not like it that he's been sorry for a long time and trying to be better but that's what the show has presented.

http://thinkingoutloud-descartes.blogspot.com/

[–] Thoraxe-the-Impaler 8 years ago

Killian's offhand "sorry" was a lot more meaningful to Belle than all Rumple's flowery apologies because Killian acted sorry afterwards. You can roll your eyes all you want, it's not going to change the fact that actions speak louder than words. And you could at least be truthful. Multiple times? What multiple times? Hook shot Belle, and he tried to kill her in the tower. That's two times. You must have those attempts confused with Rumple's multiple lies, year after year after year.

When was that? Killian only really protected Belle in S3 because Emma was sitting there wanting him to and he wanted to impress her.

Also 'mutliple' means more than once. He tried to kill her in the tower, he cornered her in the library intending to kill her, he shot her at the town line. Even Two is multiple. That's three.

And hell, ify ou're going to point out as many times Rumple lied to Belle, Hook's lied to Emma a whole hell of a lot himself. Hell, he's left her and her loved ones to die twice and was going to murder her family as the dark one. The Darkness that SHE forced on him while he was begging her not to. So if you're going to point fingers at Rumple's lying to Belle. Hook isn't exactly a saint either. Only difference is the writers ignore THAT problem and focus on the next shiny. Which is a shame because I MIGHT like CS more if they focused on the problems like that.

He hasn't "finally" apologized. He said he was sorry before and he acted sorry, and he's saying he's sorry again. You may not like it that he's been sorry for a long time and trying to be better but that's what the show has presented.

HE gave a mocking 'sorry' and protected Belle because his girlfriend was watching. He's never acted sorry to Belle ever. They only work together when they're trying to reach teh same goal.

The show also presents Regina as a special snowflake but I don't buy it.

I don't even care for Rumbelle all that much as a relationship. So I don't know why you keep throwing thier relationship in my face when I'm talking about her pretty boy pirate's apology

[–] Zanza8 8 years ago

When was that? Killian only really protected Belle in S3 because Emma was sitting there wanting him to and he wanted to impress her.

That's just your spin because you can't stand it that Killian did anything good. Your hatred makes your opinion somewhat invalid because you're not able to evaluate what has been happening correctly. Look at how you bitch about Hook leaving Emma and her loved ones to die while conveniently forgetting that Emma left him to die first. That's some double standard you've got there, but that's what I expect from haters. Irrational thinking.

He's never acted sorry to Belle ever. They only work together when they're trying to reach teh same goal.

Oh, so the same goal that Belle and Killian worked on and bonded over, getting the fairies out of the hat, that's not worthy because...come on, you must have some reason, no matter how crazy, why working together to save the fairies is a bad thing because it was Killian helping.

http://thinkingoutloud-descartes.blogspot.com/

[–] cocogurl-95192 8 years ago

I loved this scene. I mean, I think he's already shown through his actions that he's not that man anymore and feels remorse, but it's great to hear him say it out loud to Belle. I'm proud of the growth.