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Hmm, do all of you realize how bad bollywood films are?


I'm sorry to say this, and I'm a huge fan of various types of cinema and foreign films, but oh man from what I've seen of bollywood films make me cringe with how shallow (or so over the top) the acting is.

The only reason I can determine why bollywood films are getting more attention in north america, is simply because there are more people here who are of this movie styles native audience and not that it is finding a new audience.

I'm really sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone, but for the most part, and there may be some exceptions, but it is the acting that really brings these movies down.

look at the trailer for this film

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWrqjz7p8d8

It is practically laugh-inducing when he is struggling with the soldiers at the beginning.

On the scale of world cinema (and again I love so many types of foreign films, and really seek out different styles of film), I would be hard-pressed to rank another style or type of film lower.

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can't say i disagree and I'm Indian. it's not 100% like this but atleast 80% true

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Maybe you need to be a little more broad-minded and comment on the this movie after watching the movie... not just the trailer

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Have you seen the *beep* Hollywood makes? Or do you only watch the award winners and critically acclaimed films. India has a different kind of audience that prefers more drama in their films, so it tends to be a little over the top. But a lot of Indian Cinema is very realistic, you just need to be less biased and speak to people who know more about it.

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Yes, I have seen what Hollywood makes and its hell of a lot of better. I am an Indian who lives in Canada and trust me when I say I know my Bollywood. I am in a better place to judge both industries since I have experienced stuff from both.

I stopped reading after you said Indian cinema was realistic. Are you SERIOUSLY kidding me? Realistic? REALISTIC?! I don't know whether to laugh at your comment, or cry at your intelligence.

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Firstly, Mr. Indian who lives in Canada, don't talk about Hollywood like it is from your adopted country Canada. Hollywood movies - are American not Canadian. Have seen the garbage that comes out of Canadian cinema? You probably cant even name me 5 Canadian movies.

Clearly Hollywood and Bollywood movies cater to two very different audiences. That said, many Bollywood movies have global appeal.

Critique the movie if you can, don't insult it! Rockstar was a good movie - excellent music, acting, story - not sure why you need to trash it in a public forum.

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So you are making it about nationality and cultures eh? I am an Indian, stayed in Canada for 4 years, came back to India and my life revolves around cinema. All I do is watch films or get high and trust me when I say this.....90 percent of Bollywood cinema is crap. In fact I'd go so far as to say Indian cinema is a blip on cinema, an insult to the art of film making. There have been few films that have been barely good lately, but the fact is that most Bollywood films, and Indians are wannabes.
The truly great films made in India were in the 60 and 70s with 80s chipping in with few and far great artsy fare. However since the 80s it's been all downhill. Wannabes.

Hollywood is making crap lately....all superficial commercial superhero crap and i am mostly done with them, but the 60s and 70s of American cinema is unparalleled. You want quality cinema....watch south korean fare instead. They haven't sniffed the mooney yet...and then the cycle of greatness to filth will begin there too.

Canadian cinema is crap but they hardly make any films to begin with, it's got a lot to do with this thing called 'inferiority complex'.


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could not agree with you more ..i have been into world movies for ages and seriously man most of the Indian films suck really bad .and most people do not even care about it ..it is because of the exposure i feel ...70 % of India is rural you cannot expect these people to love world movies ...Bollywood directors are businessmen they want to cater to a larger audience (there are some few good directors of course) .....but it is the mater of taste man ..

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Couldn`t agree with you more. I am an Indian who lives in Canada and I support your claim. I`d say about 90% is garbage, and only suitable for india indians who look for nothing more than mere 3 hours of entertainment.

This movie is just trash, I can`t believe I wasted almost 3 hours of my life. I`d rather watch Rockstar with Mark Wahlberg than this garbage. The acting was SO bad, and so much was illogical (serves me right trying to find reasoning in bollywood films, mistake I try not to make)

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first of all you havent seen the movie,

you judge it from a trailer??


also after having met the director, (very sincere and straigh forward guy) I can say he has no illusions about the movie, he made what he wanted to make, wether people like it or not, is not his problem


having said that, I loved the movie, its impactful and VERY deep....


simply brilliant and VERY out of reach for normal audience




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You should watch movies from other industries more. I don't mean just Hollywood, but other world cinema industries as well.

"Even in death, I gave you life. I GAVE YOU LIFE!"

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He was struggling with policemen, not soldiers! I will tell you what is "laugh-inducing", your critique of the movie!

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When did I ever say soldiers? What the hell are you talking about?
Stop making nonsense up, you're embarrassing yourself, you are pathetic.

And why insult me? Cause I disliked the movie and dislike Bollywood in general? It's my taste, get over it. I tell you what's really bothering you, cause I hated it and you liked it, you feel insecure and need to defend it. Again, adding to your pathetic nature.

And yes I CAN name 5 Canadian movies. Canadian movies are epic, they are usually dramatic, political and thought provoking movies. Canada and US industries CAN be used interchangeably because the culture is very similar for both countries. The fashion, the music, the lifestyle, etc. If you had an American and a Canadian in front of you, you wouldn't be able to tell a difference and nor would I. Both industries constantly influence each other to create mixed content enjoyed by these 2 very similar cultures.

"Even in death, I gave you life. I GAVE YOU LIFE!"

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Mr. Indian who lives in Canada, don't give me the BS about Canadian culture influencing Hollywood movies. I live in the U.S. and Canada is nothing but a joke here! The culture is perceived to be similar by many cause Canada does not have a culture of its own and imitates the US in everything. Reminds me of the famous line by Tina Fey: Toronto is just like NYC, but without all the things! Hahaha!
Hollywood is American cinema, period!

Just because Pakistani and Indian culture/ people are similar doesn't mean Bollywood is Pakistani. Get it? Hollywood is American, not Canadian!

I don't care if you dislike Bollywood. You were trying to demean everything about the movie and the people in it - saying things like : "the movie is trash". Attacking Bollywood by comparing it to Hollywood is foolish. Would you compare Sabyasachi sarees to Armani suits? Two very different things!

That said, I know for a fact that Indian cinema is highly respected in the West. You now have the likes of Disney and Fox Studios investing in Indian movies. I agree that Bollywood movies don't have global appeal, but the fact is that Bollywood doesn't care about the "global audience" - there are over 1 billion people who somehow relate to the India story/ culture - and that is the market!

I apologize about the "soldier" comment, I mixed you up with the other "Indian living in Canada" (how many of you are there?).

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You must be living in a hole to not be aware of the influence. I will be happy to list all the influences if you want. You again misread everything I say. I never said Hollywood WAS Canadian in the sense you used such as "Bollywood IS Pakistani". Don't assume things. I suppose if Tina Fey is the most credible person you can quote, I can't argue with that. I guess she represents the entire demographic. LOL.

This movie IS trash. In my opinion. Some people think its greatest, w/e good for them. Don't argue for my opinion. Its mine, and you and your illogical statements cannot change it.

This movie WAS a WASTE of TIME. Come at me bro.

And when did I attack people in it? Seriously you GOTTA STOP making BS up. WHEN? Please keep arguments coherent and quotable. Just making *beep* up doesn't fly by me.

Comparing BW and HW is NOT foolish. Again my opinion, COME AT ME BRO. Its because they're both industries I have seen about equal movies in. And since I have been exposed to equal amounts of Canadian/North American culture and Indian culture, I can make a judgement that suits MY opinion. If I was a transvestite who wore the sarees and suits and compared them, I would say that would be fair.

And to end it. Most of BW is trash, IMO. Don't like it? Deal with it. Or come at me and I'll love to embarrASS you some more.

"Even in death, I gave you life. I GAVE YOU LIFE!"

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"Come at me bro" ?

LMAO! Do you live in Brampton by any chance?

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You started off by comparing Bollywood (BW) to Hollywood (HW) - and concluded that all BW movies are trash. Yes, loosely speaking, they are the same kind of industry, but the products are completely different. There is the food industry that creates pizzas as well as burgers; only would fool would say that pizzas are better than burgers. If you like pizzas more than burgers, then good for you, don't go around trashing burger joints. Get my point? (BTW, your transvestite analogy made no sense .. lol)

And why are you putting HW on such a high pedestal? It produces garbage on a weekly basis. Last week, there was a movie by the name "American Reunion" in which a creepy 30 year old slams his laptop on his penis while watching porn in front of a kid. Laugh your way off on that one! So, judging by the same yard-stick, how isn't this movie garbage?

BW makes good and bad movies. Trashing it is uncalled for! If you were to face the facts, you would realize that BW is the largest film industry in the world. And second only to Hollywood in terms of revenue generation (a gap that is closing very rapidly).

In a world where Jerry Springer is acceptable television, BW is NOT TRASH! I am defending BW cause I like many of their movies and I dislike people like you. I also know that the industry is constantly evolving - making better movies everyday! But, why are you attacking it? Why? You hate this movie so much that you have urges to go online and trash the entire Hindi film industry! C'mon now!

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No. Incorrect. I base my opinion on many films I have seen produced by BW. Sure Hollywood is not perfect, I never said it was. Did I ever say EVERYTHING by HW is best and EVERYTHING by BW is trash? Seriously, where do you get this from? I distinctively remember using a 90% figure. AND I ALSO STATED that its suitable for people in India who see this as "new" kind of concepts. Read. Please. I happen to seriously love and adore tons of BW films, the ratio just quite heavily shifts towards HW.

Who cares if its the largest industry in the world? I don't give a crap.

You dislike people like me? Well, I don't care one bit about what you think of me? How's that? You could hate me all you want, you're just a prick behind a computer who cannot take someone else's opinion being different than yours. You just cannot stand that someone else out there hates something you like.

Trashing is uncalled for? What gives you the right to decide that? Its my opinion, I could trash whatever I want whenever I want regardless of a person like you being judgemental about it. And no, I am not from brampton.

"Even in death, I gave you life. I GAVE YOU LIFE!"

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Also: COME AT ME BRO.

"Even in death, I gave you life. I GAVE YOU LIFE!"

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ha ha ha... Another moron speaking trash about BW without even watching classics like Swades, Rang de Basanti, Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar, Udaan, Khosla Ka Ghosla and I can go on and on and on... Lame people will keep shouting! It's better we just ignore them... :-P

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You are the f-in idiot for assuming I haven't seen them. Why would you assume that? Did I share that info with anyone? Why are you so judgemental? Are you a frustrated human being trying to pass judgements due to your shortcomings? Are you petrified that since my tastes differ than yours, and subdue yours that its my negative impression of you as a person as well? You have issues. Seek help.

Swades, haven't seen.
RDB, seen it. Wouldn't call it trash, would call it good. Would be great if the plot wasn't lifted off of a foreign movie.
JJWS, one of my favs. My fav bollywood song is from it.
Udaan, just fantastic movie. Loved how the protagonist dealt with his struggles.
KKG, have not seen it.

You also spoke in paradox which also proves you being a hypocrite. You said you would ignore lame people implying that I am lame. Yet you did not ignore me, instead you commented about me. So we can assume two scenarios: 1) You think I am lame, yet you chose to comment about me despite saying its better to ignore people like me <- contradicted yourself. 2) This leads to the fact that you yourself proved I am not lame by commenting about me.

TLDR: Either you are a hypocrite or I am not lame. I would vouch for both.

Imbecile.

"Even in death, I gave you life. I GAVE YOU LIFE!"

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*beep* like you are rare! BW is trash and yet almost all movies I mentioned are amazing according to you. And a Hollywood asslicker like you are calling me Hypocrite. Funny, really Funny. Those were just a few examples. I can write an essay on Indian Cinema of which Bollywood is a part. And I watch a lot of Global stuff too. So you can keep that global BS away. From Kar Wai Wong to Xavier Dolan (Canadian BTW) to Jean Luc Godard to Satyajit Ray, I have watched almost everyone's movies. Stating these little facts just so you know how lame you sound when you assume that I have issues.

Every *beep* movie industry creates Trash that are popular among the masses. Its a business after all. Audience pays money and hence the producers make what audience wants. But after all these at least 30% movies come out every year, that matters. This proves you are a *beep* liar too.

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Lol no *beep* genius that there are good and bad movies created by all industries. And that there are good movies in Bollywood and I happened to like the ones that are listed. It doesn't negate the fact that most of what is put out is mostly mindless garbage that doesn't require intricate thinking or planning.
And strong replying to a 4 year old post, seems like your ass is still on fire.

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"When did I ever say soldiers? What the hell are you talking about? "

He/she was referring to when the OP said the following:

"It is practically laugh-inducing when he is struggling with the soldiers at the beginning."

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I know.
But he was directing that question to me without realizing I wasn't the one who said it. To make him seem more stupid that he is, I phrased it that way. And it worked.

"Even in death, I gave you life. I GAVE YOU LIFE!"

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very good view about bw.
In my case i only know one thing and that is bollywood is a place where most of the films are made which is inspired from hollywood,koreon movie and other foreign movies.Also music are also copied from other foreign language songs.Also In bollywood most of the film become hit only because of star power and hype created by it without having good story like movie gajini,bodyguard etc.

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Sorry for the late response but yes, I agree with your statements as well. Good movies are not very well advertised it seems. Sometimes good movies likes Vicky Donor make the cut in becoming popular BW movies and also being great which is good, but rare.

I just saw a flick called "Bubble Gum", it was an original indian idea with great writing and acting and I loved just how raw and indian it was, amazing. Way better this garbage movie imo. Check it out, cheers.

"Even in death, I gave you life. I GAVE YOU LIFE!"

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Now now ladies, keep it clean.

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i share ur point of view but there are good indian movies and yaaa south korea is better than bollywood i dont know i watched oldboy and its indian version surely oldboy is the best
but indian cinema is not realistic bt dramatic cinema ppl here want to get entertained and indian movies do that better than any other movies and songs in indian movies are far more bettter than any other hollywood or korean movies
reply i want to see ur viewss really
yaa idont live canada

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I respect your opinion mcquaidster, but I have to wonder what exactly is your purpose in posting it here? If you didn't like the movie for some specific reasons, I could understand you posting about it. But if you just hate Bollywood and think it sucks, why are you even wasting time watching trailers or writing about it? It's like if I were to go on the Twilight boards and post about how much I hate Twilight -- I don't like it, so I don't concern myself with it. And a lot of people love Bollywood. Not because we're stupid or just haven't been exposed to "better" film industries (personally, in addition to Bollywood movies I enjoy movies from all across Asia, the Middle East and Europe). We just have different ideas about what is entertaining. I agree that there is often overacting/poor acting in these movies. Even though I liked Rockstar I wasn't too crazy about either of the leads' performances, in fact the actress is not even Indian and can't speak the language so she was dubbed. But they are gradually getting better while still retaining what we love about them. IF you are still open to changing your opinion on Indian films, I would recommend: Dev D, Udaan, Ishqiya, Yuva and Omkara. There are plenty of others that also disprove your idea that Bollywood is bad and only full of over the top acting.

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It is rather small minded to say all Bollywood films are bad. A lot are, but there are some real gems. The majority of what Hollywood churns out is rubbish also. And those saying that Hollywood is American - the location may be in the USA, but most of the film studios are owned by corporations which are not American, many of the films are made outside the USA (especially in Canada)and a lot of the film stars are not American.

3 Idiots (Bollywood) is the best comedy I've seen in the last 20 years. For realistic films I'd watch French or British films over Hollywood any time.

In the 'golden age' of Hollywood a lot of amazing films were produced, but these days dialogues in films are kept to a minimum.

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