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Will they sing the National Anthem once Boulder is up and running?


Like they did in the 1994 series? I'm guessing not thanks to the woke crowd these days. Black Larry Underwood will probably take a knee.

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I always thought that part was silly. At that point, there was no country to pledge allegiance to. The US was dead and gone.

And had Stu seen Larry and immediately shot him six times because he mistook his guitar for a gun, I'd say yeah, a bit of kneeling is warranted.

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If the USA was dead and gone then all your bullshit reasons for hating it are dead and gone too

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Not really, seeing as how I don't hate America. What I dislike are the alarmingly large number of shameless hypocrites who live here.

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Sure you don't mister BLM. What do they espouse again?

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As an enlightened person, I regard everyone equally, with no hatred or bias in my heart. That’s how everyone should live, so don’t let no retard, cullert, or queer tell ya differnt!

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Referring to yourself as an "enlightened person" just reeks of pure elitism. Ugh. Take a humility pill please.

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Sir, I am easily the most humble person who has ever lived! Why, my modesty exceeds even your unparalleled ability to detect satire.

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Yeah, it was late, and I didn't read the second part of your comment. As soon as I read enlightened person I tuned out. Dealing with college proffessors for years on end will do that to you.

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> Dealing with college proffessors for years on end will do that to you.

Understood. Most of mine were pretentious jerks. But one was a real hottie. Late thirties, long dark hair, pretty face, 38DDD, and a figure that would have made Satan himself tremble with desire. I desperately wanted to bed her and tried to. Sorta my own personal version of Harold and Nadine. She politely rebuffed my advances. A good thing, too. She was a God-damned Commie. Not just a hard core leftie, but an actual card-carrying Communist. Had I gotten my wish it would have warped my impressionable adolescent mind forever.

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Damn, that description couldn't have been any better. It's a shame that the majority of women these days are of that mindset. What's even more puzzling is that those same women secretly despise woke men, and cheat on them with non-woke men whenever they get the chance. It's a strange baffling world that we are living in these days. Seems like you got lucky, even if at the time it didn't seem like it.

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Been in the Navy for almost 18 years and counting, so if I hate America, I have a weird way of showing it.

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The Dallas shooter a few years back was a veteran too. What's you serving prove? Think you're the only service member on this board?

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What I think is you're the type of simple-minded jackass who accuses everyone who disagrees with him politically of "hating America".

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Nah not everyone. Just BLM shitstains like you

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I actually really liked that they sang it in the book and the first show, it showed that they were still patriotic and that America isn't quite dead yet. I loved and admired that, that kind of love and dedication is something we need now more than ever.

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Exactly

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Agreed.

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Lol

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In the novel, King did something even nuttier. The assembled crowd read and ratified the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

The first is harmless enough. There's not a USA anymore, but there's also not a UK, so saying they're independent of the UK doesn't mean anything one way or the other.

But the Constitution? It's not a primer of what's "good," what's "decent," what's "in the American spirit." It is law. And under that law the crowd enacted, they are now obliged to -- at the very least -- assemble a Senate with two senators per state, and a House of Representatives with members apportioned by population among the several states (what states?!). They're also obliged to elect a President via an Electoral College with electors chosen by those phantom states. And a Supreme Court, and a monetary system including a federal treasury.

I'm guessing that like too many Americans, King hasn't even glanced at the Constitution since his grade school days. But the Judge or someone else should have spoken up in that meeting and said, "whoa, bad idea!"

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Lol that would be incredibly stupid. Ratify a document when you couldn't meet 99% of the requirements laid out. You couldn't even hold people accountable for anything, since you would constantly be violating everyone's "constitutional rights".

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2 How is holding someone accountable for criminal activities violating their rights?

Lol that would be incredibly stupid. Ratify a document when you couldn't meet 99% of the requirements laid out. You couldn't even hold people accountable for anything, since you would constantly be violating everyone's "constitutional rights".

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Lets say someone is accused of murder. Constitutionally, that person is entitled to an impartial jury. In a community this small, everyone would probably know both the accused and the victim. Same goes for the judge and lawyers, assuming you have anyone qualified to fill either role(the only known judge was sent on a foolish suicide mission).

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> In a community this small, everyone would probably know both the accused and the victim. Same goes for the judge and lawyers

The same situation exists from time to time in any small town courtroom. I live in a town of a few thousand people and did jury duty once. Panel members were randomly selected for each case and questioned as to their suitability for service. In one case I was called for, one of the attorneys was a casual acquaintance; we had gone to the local high school at about the same time and knew each other. I mentioned that and the judge asked if it would bias me. I replied that it wouldn't, I simply thought the opposing counsel had a right to know. Not a problem. I ended up not serving on that trial's jury, but on a case where I was a juror the same situation existed with me and a fellow juror (acquaintances from high school). And in what could have been a bizarre twist, the judge presiding over a different section (district vs circuit courts) was a guy I had known since we were both in diapers. I wasn't in his courtroom so it never became an issue, but I asked how that would have been handled if I had been assigned to that panel instead of the one I was in. Not a big deal; the judge would have quietly mentioned it to the attorneys any time I was called up and ask if any of them objected to it.

So the issue isn't "do you know this person?" It's "would your relationship with this person impair your ability to be impartial?" Certainly the victim's sister, the defendant's best friend, et cetera would be disqualified from service, and if such a person tried to sneak onto the jury it would be quite difficult; in a town where "everyone knows everyone else" (not really true) someone else on the panel would likely see what was happening and speak up. And attorneys have an unlimited number of challenges for cause; they can knock as many people as they like off the jury if the judge accepts their reasons. But they also have a limited number of peremptory challenges they can use to exclude potential jurors without having to justify it to the judge; "gut feeling" situations and such.

> assuming you have anyone qualified to fill either role(the only known judge was sent on a foolish suicide mission).

I think your point about the number of available lawyers is a good one, though. At the very least, a criminal trial would require a defense attorney, a prosecutor, and three judges; one for the preliminary hearing, one for the trial, and one for the possible appellate review. Seems to me there would be very few lawyers in Boulder; almost all would have ended up in Vegas. ;)

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2 Your point at first glance is a valid one but I don't see it as a violation of the accused's rights.


Lets say someone is accused of murder. Constitutionally, that person is entitled to an impartial jury. In a community this small, everyone would probably know both the accused and the victim. Same goes for the judge and lawyers, assuming you have anyone qualified to fill either role(the only known judge was sent on a foolish suicide mission).

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