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Future of the show

posted 13 years ago by YevKassem
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What if this show keeps being as good as it is now? Will it remain a summer show or will abc move it to the fall if the rating are good enough?

To all the haters: Watch something else you like in stead of wasting threads about how bad it is

[–] Thanato26 13 years ago

The show is just being broadcast on ABC its a Canadian Show.

~Thanato

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[–] hennie30 13 years ago

I really like the show, too, and hope it stays on the air throughout the year. If it doesn't get picked up for the fall it might premiere mid-season.

[–] bangerz 13 years ago

I predict - only 1 season !!!!

[–] VampireSlayer11 13 years ago

I really like it :)

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

I am not hating here, but to be honest i dont see the show continuing past one season on ABC as the ratings have been quite bad. Here in Canada however, it is a massive success for Global and it will most likley continue in canada if it is cancelled on ABC

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

I am not hating here, but to be honest i dont see the show continuing past one season on ABC as the ratings have been quite bad.

Here in Canada however, it is a massive success for Global and it will most likley continue in canada if it is cancelled on ABC

To be honest, I'm not sure that you truly understand how to analyze network TV ratings in the US.

Combat Hospital is in one of the worst timeslots possible, directly against the highly-obnoxious mega-popular America's Got Talent .... averaging 12 million viewers! (Do they even have 12 million TV viewers in all of Canada? Just asking.)

IN CONTEXT of the entire network numbers, for CH to score 3 million viewers on Tues 10PM, makes it quite possible that the show will indeed be renewed .... and just moved to a different night and time.

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

etolle :

i do understand ratings in the us as i follow my fav shows regularly. i hsve seen an american interview where the network exec said he is unsure if it will be renewed at those numbers.

no we dont get near the rstings in canada that the usa does but last week 1.6mill watched in canada and considering we are a smaller country this is awesome numbers

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

sledge105 wrote:

i do understand ratings in the us as i follow my fav shows regularly. i hsve seen an american interview where the network exec said he is unsure if it will be renewed at those numbers.

One interview with one network exec? And WHEN was this quote published?

[08/09/11 - 10:28 AM]
ABC Finishes in a Virtual Tie for No. 1 During the Week in Adults 18-49
[via press release from ABC]

"Combat Hospital" (10:00-11:00 p.m.)
Up against the final hour of "America's Got Talent" at 10:00 p.m., ABC's "Combat Hospital" grew week to week in Adults 18-49 (+11% - 1.0/3 vs. 0.9/3) and Adults 25-54 (+9% - 1.2/3 vs. 1.1/3), tying the series' best results in five weeks.

Hmmmmmmm....

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

no not just a network exec the head of the network . this was posted a week or 2 ago.

http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2011/08/07/18521666.html?cid=rssentertainmenttelevision

simply no decision msde yet but just dont haave good feeling is all

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

simply no decision msde yet but just dont haave good feeling is all

The media writer's presumptuous lead-in was: "ABC president Paul Lee gave Rookie Blue a big pat on the back, but didn’t sound so positive about the future of Combat Hospital."

Yet the EXACT quote from Paul Lee was: “We haven’t made a decision on that (Combat Hospital). Creative was good, but we haven’t made a decision on it.”

And now YOUR interpretation is: "simply no decision msde yet but just dont haave good feeling is all"

Creative is good?

Great ... let's cancel it!

LOL

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

Woah relax all I'm doing is giving my opinion. I am not out to start an argument.

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

Woah relax all I'm doing is giving my opinion. I am not out to start an argument.

Woah, yourself. I was merely pointing out how your "opinion" is based on FALSE assumptions.

The ONLY official word on this show's longevity is that "Creative is good. But no decision has been made." But you CHOSE to spread your gloom and doom prediction based on: 1) a superficial interpretation of the ratings system, and 2) a distortion of what a studio exec had recently stated.

There is no need for an argument. Your opinion is unfounded.

[–] seriesaddictathens 13 years ago

Mentally I am putting this show in the same bucket as "Off the Map" whereby I think it wouldn't pull in the kind of viewers that ABC needs in the winter given the competition out there so it's only hope for survival is as a summer show with less competition and lower expectations.

Similar I believe "Off the Map" would have survived as a summer show and should have been aired like this in the first place - in fact the two shows could have been paired...

[–] blueyegirl 13 years ago

I'm with sledge105 & seriesaddictathens here; ABC isn't overwhelmed with the ratings - 3 million a week is not very good, even for a summer show.
The Gates drew the same amount of audience last summer and that got axed. And when the head of the network says the future of the show is undecided, well that doesn't give reason to be optimistic.

Combat Hospital's only chance of survival in the US, is if ABC decided to keep it on only as a summer show; this show would never survive in what is considered the "regular" season.

I'm glad the show is doing well in Canada and sledge is right; it will probably be renewed there. Whether ABC opts for the rights again, I feel, is unlikely.

Do what you like,
like what you do.
I'm just doing desserts & liquor.

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

thanks blue eye this is all i was trying to say ,

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

i am not spreading doom and gloom etolle i said i think it will continue in canada and i am happy about that. i have been dvring the show

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

i am not spreading doom and gloom etolle i said i think it will continue in canada and i am happy about that. i have been dvring the show

It is quite clear that ALL you care about is that the show continues in Canada.

Apparently you are convinced that the show can survive WITHOUT the additional TV revenues from the US.

Good luck with that.

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

the show can and will survive by itself in canada etolle. It was a canadian production FIRST then the states jumped in since they had interest in airing it.

I feel VERY confident that it will not be renewed in the states with 3 million viewers a week. As the poster abover mentioned, both the gates, and scoundrels from last year were cancelled with very similar numbers. You have a show like rookie blue, which is another canadian/american collaboration that consistantly gets 5 million viewers a week. it has already been renewed for a third season in the states on ABC so oviously this is the threshold for summer scripted programming on the network.

also, when you have a top network exec not willing to make a prediction about the future of a show that should give you a pretty good idea of where their head is at.

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

I feel VERY confident that it will not be renewed in the states with 3 million viewers a week. As the poster abover mentioned, both the gates, and scoundrels from last year were cancelled with very similar numbers.

You have a show like rookie blue, which is another canadian/american collaboration that consistantly gets 5 million viewers a week. it has already been renewed for a third season in the states on ABC so oviously this is the threshold for summer scripted programming on the network.

Right... so according to your professional analysis, 5 million viewers per show is "the threshold for all summer scripted programming" ....

REGARDLESS of:
* which night it aired
* which timeslot it was placed in
* what other shows it ran up against

So.... according to YOUR expert analysis, NO show can or will EVER attain higher ratings in a different timeslot, and therefore, the networks NEVER even consider taking any new show and moving it into a different timeslot.

My only advice to you is: Don't quit your day job.

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

i said it was the threshold for ABC yes. not ALL netwkrs and o never said i was an expert i just know how things work. we will see at the end of summer. 3 million for abc in the summer is not good ratings numbers when they have shows like wipeout and rookie blue that get 5 and 8 million easy

Combat is also not even pulling a 1 in the demos which even for the summer is horrid. Rookie blue is consistently pulling a 1.3 to 1.6 in the demos. Demos Is what matters to a network more then pure viewers anyways. Anyone will tell u that. The gates had very similar demos to combat too.

It is also continuously on the losers list over at pifeedback.com nightly ratings so I do have an idea of what I am talking about. Never said I was an expert tho zo I donno where u would have gotten that idea.

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

i said it was the threshold for ABC yes. not ALL netwkrs

Oh, so you work for ABC and are privy to their current guidelines for renewing shows in the US.

Great, please copy and paste some of these insider guidelines, so we can all read them over ... unless, of course, you are still just GUESSING.

never said i was an expert i just know how things work.

Pray tell, what are your qualifications for "knowing how things work":

* direct work experience with TV contract negotiations?
* close friend in the biz, who is keeping you up to date?
* a special Ouija Board that is fine-tuned for TV shows?
* a diet of primarily beans that produce a steady stream of smoke?

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

OF COURSE I AM GUESSING. I didn't say I had inside info I am just a fan of televisiOn who has analyzed the data that is provided to the Public daily. I do not knOw if it will be renewed in the states anything can happen, but based on the info that I have see my EDUCATED GUESS ( yes i said educated) is it is almost certainly cancelled in the USA. This is All I have been trying to say for the past 3 day Convo I have had with u. You cant look at the data that has been provided and honestly come to the conclusion that it has a good chance at a USA season 2.

[–] ganesheeva 13 years ago

right, so keep making your snuff movies shows, ppl die teared apart by drones cowardly while u *beep* watch shows about medics tryin to sew dem together again, why dont u broadcast from hell if u *beep* r so clever ? cuz Frankenstein alrdy been done.
f pathetic is all.
But maybe u *beep* feel the need to profit over the billions spent on useless warz around the glob since ur *beep* skullimminati gov of *beep* bombs for the fun of it 65 countries in 1 century.
Hey, what about a show about american soldiers suicides & "gulf syndrom", but make it so dat it show how greedy & cowardly u *beep* rly are, then i'd watch. F hypocrits.
Yaya Canada waging a war, good, then f neutral weaponsmaker euro-destroyer Belgium sending warplanes in Lybia, gr8, Murdoch got his headlines for the next weeks. the tru weaks r u *beep*

[–] blueyegirl 13 years ago

@sledge105, I agree with you; but you're going to make yourself crazy trying to convey your opinion, and why you believe ABC will not opt for the rights to air it again.

Do what you like,
like what you do.
I'm just doing desserts & liquor.

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

@Blueeyegirl, I know right? I think I am done trying to explain things to etolle lol. It was never my intent to bash the show but i think she just decided she wanted to bash what I had to say no matter what. I actually like combat hospital. I have been dvring it every week and since i am a canadian, i am hoping global will renew it for a second season.

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

I think I am done trying to explain things to etolle lol. It was never my intent to bash the show but i think she just decided she wanted to bash what I had to say no matter what.

People who actually READ what is written, will easily see that:

* I have not been NOT "bashing" anyone. Once again, you are totally DISTORTING the truth to hopefully make yourself appear more credible.

* The ABC president specifically stated that the "creative is good", which you have conveniently left out of your relentless gloom and doom predictions.

* YOU have repeatedly ignored my observation that the show is in a very tough timeslot in the US and, to improve the ratings, ABC might chose to simply move it to a different night and time.

* YOU keep insisting that CH will be cancelled in the US, but will continue in Canada .... yet you have ZERO factual information about what it costs to produce this show and/or how much the loss of US TV revenues will affect this upcoming decision.

Dear sledge105,

No need to keep trying to explain ANYTHING to me.

YOUR explanations are limited to your own original prediction, which is based solely on half of one exec comment made in one media article.

Enjoy dvring this show while you can.

I do hope that at least Canada will be able to still enjoy this excellent acting ensemble next season. But, for me, as a longtime music production exec, it is highly likely that this will end up being an all or nothing decision.

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

Time Net Show 18-49 Rating Viewers (Millions)
8:00 FOX MasterChef (Season Finale) 2.4/8 6.08
ABC Wipeout (R) 1.6/5 5.45
CBS NCIS (R) 1.2/4 8.54
NBC It’s Worth What? 1.0/3 4.07
CW 90210 (R) 0.4/1 0.99

9:00 FOX MasterChef (Season Finale) 2.8/8 7.00
NBC America’s Got Talent 2.6/7 9.93
ABC Take the Money & Run 1.4/4 3.63
CBS NCIS: Los Angeles (R) 1.3/4 7.80
CW Shedding for the Wedding (R) 0.3/1 0.74

10:00 NBC America’s Got Talent 2.9/8 10.20
CBS The Mentalist (R) 1.1/3 5.84
ABC Combat Hospital 0.9/3 3.63

www.tvbythenumbers.com

once again etolle CH was the lowest rated program of the night (not including the always non existant CW) by a mile. when you have a repete of a scripted program in the 10 oclock hour (the mentalist) pulling in more viewers then an origional ch against the same powerhouse that is AGT your competition argument goes out the window.

now im done

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

when you have a repete of a scripted program in the 10 oclock hour (the mentalist) pulling in more viewers then an origional ch against the same powerhouse that is AGT your competition argument goes out the window.

now im done

AGT = highest rating amongst all other shows on TV in the US
Mentalist = rerun or not, one the most-watched shows in the US

Thank you for PROVING my point.

ABC should move this QUALITY show to a different night and time, and THEN you will know for sure if it can pay for itself. Otherwise, WITH ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PRODUCTION COSTS, you will have to produce a profit based solely on the much smaller Canadian TV revenues. NOT.

FYI .... you were DONE a long time ago.

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

check it out etolle i called it didnt i i may not be a pro but i know what i am talking about.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/08/24/abc-ending-combat-hospital-a-week-early-shelves-one-episode/101293/

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

Maybe YOU should actually READ that press release:

ABC is replacing the episode of Combat Hospital originally scheduled for Tuesday, August 30 ('Brothers in Arms') and replacing it with the episode that was originally scheduled for September 6 ('Triage'). The season finale ('Triage') which was originally scheduled for September 13 moves to September 6. That leaves one episode ("Brothers in Arms") on the shelf.

ALL this is announcing is that ABC is pulling ONE of the upcoming episodes.

Everything else that you THINK it means, is purely conjecture and NOT worth discussing AT THIS TIME.

FYI, the "ratings" that you swear by as the definitive guideline for renewing summer shows, showed Combat Hospital was UP 10% this week .... the OPPOSITE of YOUR prediction. Why did you leave THAT out of your boastful message? Duh?

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

Your delusional.

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

It's you're, not "your" .... you pathetic douchebag.

[–] Thanato26 13 years ago

Good thing this isnt an ABC show...

~Thanato

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

i know eh thanato. i am pretty positive it will still air in canada for a second season.

[–] The-Misanthrope 13 years ago

Wow you showed remarkable patience with that twat etolle, not sure why you kept talking to it though.

[–] Adiemusproject 11 years ago

is that meant to be some sort of "Gangsta" talk? If you can't speak plain English and address the merits of the show being discussed, then climb back into your hole and be quiet.

Simon C

[–] Blazin-Glory 10 years ago

ganesheeva.
You're a dickhead.

[–] greatscot_38668 13 years ago

I have to agree. I do really like the show and hope it gets renewed, but I doubt it. It says something that ABC cancelled the 2nd to last episode that was supposed to air Sept. 16, and instead aired the season finale 1 week early. I do hope they give it a 2nd chance. In this day of dvr'ing and watching shows online, the way shows are judged needs to be changed.

[–] LadyCapulet-1 12 years ago

Let's face it the Bozo's at Network tv would rather show drivel like the Bachelor and Bachelorette than put something good on. They must think we are all 15 year old boys with nothing but sex on our minds. That is not to take away from the few (very few) good shows that ABC does broadcast. If they are not going to grace us with more episodes the least they could do is offer up the ones we did get on DVD

[–] gingergargoyle 13 years ago

Well is it any wonder that the show isn't doing well in America? I mean the one token American doctor they have is shown to be unsure of himself and, well, wimpish ... Otherwise the majority of the US characters they bring in are a**holes ... I understand that Canada is bank-rolling it, but still could you imagine the flack if the roles were reversed and it was Canada that was portrayed in a bad light? It's a bad move and the American ratings show it.

[–] Arkangel1973 13 years ago

All we have to do to see Canada-bashing is turn on the tv and listen to an American Republican talk about how the 9/11 terrorists entered the US from Canada.

At least CH is only a tv show which people shouldn't take to seriously.

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

i know The-Misanthrope she was a little thick. I just knew i was right and she was too thick headed to see it.

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

i know The-Misanthrope she was a little thick. I just knew i was right and she was too thick headed to see it.

Yes .... sludge105 is ALWAYS right, except about:

1) She? Not with THIS penis, unless the "thick head" you are referring to is the one down in my pants!

2) You cited the press release about "pulling one episode" as a confirmation that the show would not be renewed in the US. Wrong again ... just that one episode.

3) AND you previously cited the weak ratings as your hard evidence that CH would definitely not be renewed in the US. So where is the official announcement? Uh .... nothing yet.

4) AND you literally described ME as "delusional"??

Based on the FACTS, you really should start CAREFULLY looking at YOURSELF in the mirror .... unless it's just too painful for you to face your own twisted beliefs.

[–] sledge105 13 years ago

im not starting with you again i already put this issue to bed by pulling the episode they have cancelled it like it or not i would bet my life savings its not back in usa next season

where the hell did u get penis out of thick head i meant your dumb

[–] woodmage 13 years ago

"where the hell did u get penis out of thick head i meant your dumb"

He was just saying that if someone has a penis, the subjective pronoun used to refer to that person is not "she".

If you think that's "dumb"... well, maybe the problem is you.

[–] eTOLLE 13 years ago

i would bet my life savings its not back in canada next season

That's a shame. I'm sure a lot of Canadians would still like this show to continue.

Oh well .... sledge105 is ALWAYS right, so it must be true.

[–] Savage_Pacifist 13 years ago

As an outsider to this conversation...I gotta say eTOLLE you need to correct the spelling on you your name....you are a tool....you come off as a tool..and a troll...it a frickin show...these are opinons....not facts...OPINIONS...

and let us not ignore the fact that after you retorted that you weren't personally attacking your opponent...that's all you did...then you just resort to grammar police? Come on...if that is all you have then walk away from the conversation.

It's the internet...there are a million other conversations about the same thing..I'm sure you can find one that matches your views...unless you just get off on being a turd to people who are trying to have an intelligent debate over a show they like to watch?

People like this 'eTURD' here really are just around to provide the rest of us with their comic relief in the way they stumble around through their own stupidity.

Some people just get way too serious around here

[–] pfallsgirl 12 years ago

The ABC tv gods have spoken:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/arts/television/television-still-struggles-to-bring-war-zones-home.html

It's not being renewed in the US - which is a shame, considering its success in Canada. Summer TV in the US is now the domain of the cable networks because the Big 4 Prime Time networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox)show reruns all summer long. I still think buying Canadian series like Rookie Blue and Combat Hospital are a smart way to fight back against this trend. Too bad the ABC execs don't agree with me . . .

[–] bane1991 12 years ago

THIS IS THE BEST SHOW IV SEEN IN YEARS I THINK!!!!!
it is pretty shame to see that abc has stopped with this show! this show is actually showing hard work of soldiers from the shadows, who are saving lives in harsh conditions with minimal equipment.. the real heroes of the wars today.. Shame..

[–] Striker99 12 years ago

Well said savage, this eTOLLE creep was a complete douche bag the entire time. He came of as a snotty arrogant troll. His name should be eTROLL instead. I love how the entire time sledge was just giving his opinion on a message board, as they are intended for and eTROLL couldn't let it go, and had to turn it into some internet rage rant. Gotta agree with the other poster, you have some serious patience sledge.

Next time don't give losers like eTROLL the satisfaction, just ignore them and let them rant. A troll is a nobody when no one pays them any attention. Don't feed the trolls.

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[–] Flowbeer 12 years ago

Just to ask: I don't watch a lot of network television: is this show on ABC at a certain time slot, every week? I have never seen or heard of this before, just found out about it by accident. Has it been canceled yet?

"Now, I know I'm pretty, but I ain't as pretty as a coupla titties!"

[–] MariaEstherGuzmanC 11 years ago

I miss Combat Hospital.

[–] Cougarah 11 years ago

My wife and I loved this show. Having served overseas in the Medical Corps in the US Air Force and under Allied Forces rule (meaning that at one mobility the US armed forces were not In-Charge), I found this show especially refreshing to see that it wasn't just a boost for American moral. Finally a show that brings light to the amazing work "non-US" Military professionals do..as often..and often much better than we Americans. Too bad to see a great show go to the way-side. :^(