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Why it won the Grand Prix in Cannes


Let's be honest. Major European organizations like Cannes aren't going to give major awards (or any awards for that matter) to any Turkish films that truly excel in cinema. Not saying this was a bad film, it wasn't. But for all you naives out there who think the film won the Grand Prix because of its artistic or cinematic quality, here's the truth: It displays the Turks as primitive, barbaric people who bury people alive and live in backwater villages and poor towns.

Now I'm not saying that was the intention of the film, it wasn't. But it is the reason why it was awarded the Grand Prix. Sadly, anything that portrays Turkey in a realistic/positive light will never be recognized by Cannes.

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I agree. The film was very bad and not deserving of any award, let alone the Grand Prix. So something is fishy.

Also, Turkey was the seat of two great "civilized" empires, so the Turks, by right, are not barbaric or primitive. Only uneducated fools would look down at them. No amount of film can change that!

Anyway, Cannes & Oscars are more often than not .."political".


A genius amongst morons is just another moron.

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Of course. Cannes is indulged in a nefarious EU conspiracy to present Turkey in a backward nation to the rest of the world. This is in stark contrast to awards received by recent Western European winners, such as The White Ribbon (Austria/Germany), Gomorra (Italy), The Wind that Shakes the Barley (Ireland/UK) and Flandres (France). Never mind that only a third of the jury actually hailed from Europe.

Your belief that this film portrays Turks as "primitive, barbaric people who bury people alive and live in backwater villages and poor towns" probably says more about your own insecurities than anything else and makes me question whether you've even seen the film.

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Here here iratemovies. Thesan; I've not read something so silly on these forums for a long time.

This topic should be closed as its probably just a troll anyhow.

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Flanders is in Belgium...

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Nuri Bilge Ceylan's previous films got a lot of recognition in Cannes, without portraying such an image. Climates almost won the Palme d'Or. This is probably the best artistic film by Ceylan so it's not a surprise to see it make such an impact. There are a lot of other films portraying worse images that could have been awarded to insult Turkey

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amazing you sound like you believe what you're saying, as if you weren't talking out of your ass.

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>>Sadly, anything that portrays Turkey in a realistic/positive light will never be recognized by Cannes.

This film already portrays Turkey as it is. Actually it's truly remarkable in that respect. I've read some reviews from Turkish doctors, bureaucrats and those who lived in the Middle Anatolia. They all express their amazement at how realistic and complete it all is.

I am in no way an expert on Turkish cinema but I frankly believe this is by far the best Turkish film ever made and I doubt neither NB Ceylan nor anyone else can top that; it's that perfect.

The reason the movie was awarded the GP is not about Turks being portrayed such or anything. Ridiculous conspiracy theories... It's because it's a damn great move. It's not about a silly homicide and the search for a corpse but it's about human nature, existence and estrangement.
If you make a movie on a no man's land in Turkey and display 'positive light' you're either a fool, blind or liar. Everything is sound and plausible in OUATIA that people look at it and think/feel it's one hell of a movie.

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Hi, Altindal,

Finally got to see this master piece recently and just finishing up my review to post shortly. Anyway, while looking through some of the forum comments, I found this quote of yours:

"It's because it's a damn great move. It's not about a silly homicide and the search for a corpse but it's about human nature, existence and estrangement."

Couldn't agree more. Nice also to find another who can separate the banal from the fundamentally important. Ever since I saw Distant way back, I knew immediately I was watching a master story maker. Now, I must see Winter Sleep.

Best,

Roger Burke

I've seen an awful lot of movies and a lot of awful movies...

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let's be honest. you don't know WTF you're talking about

but just for the sake of our entertainment, please enlighten us about the reasons Uzak and Three Monkeys won major awards at Cannes


Who cares about stairs? The main thing is ice cream.

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How about "Uzak is a masterpiece"? There is one problem with NBC's movies though. They never reveal things pointedly to the audience unlike most movies made today. You probably did not understand the half the lol. But that won't make Uzak and OUATIA poor movies.

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whether or not Uzak is a masterpiece is beside the point. it's a good character study, which doesn't paint Turkish people as primitive or barbaric, and while I can't say for certain, it comes off as being reasonably realistic...and it was recognized in Cannes, contrary to the OP to which I replied

it's always hard to tell what I might have missed, particularly in films focused on cultures with which I am only slightly familiar. as an uninformed outsider, I might see them in a completely different way than people more familiar with what is depicted. but I think I "get" a lot of what's going on, and if not, I at least tend to derive interpretations that produce viewing enjoyment, which is my primary goal as a fan of cinema

on another note, I think Times & Winds (Bes Vakit) merits a spot in your Turkish film list


Who cares about stairs? The main thing is ice cream.

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What about Fatih Akin's Edge of Heaven or Head-On?

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won as German...

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Head-On is one of the top ten foreign films of the decade. Silver Linings Playbook ripped it off, IMO.

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Definitely top ten--for me, it is #7: http://www.flickchart.com/Charts.aspx?genre=Foreign+Language+Film&decade=2000&user=SlackerInc

Notice though that I have the other Akin film I mentioned at #2, behind only "Spirited Away".

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I am surprised that the film won,


things Cannes looks for in films come for the middle east are sex,hatred and violence, this film had nothing to do with these things, therefore, i am very surprised it won.

The film is very good, i see it as Pulp fiction without violence.
It also portrayed Turkey in a very good way, at least better than the way it was portrayed in Fatih Akin' films.

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Very shallow comment. Nuri Bilge Ceylan won awards in Cannes with Distant and Climates as well, where more modern, educated people of Turkey is portrayed.

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