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So, what do you think?


Has anyone seen it, at the premiere?

/ Daniel (Sweden)

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Allright, but please give us more? You ought to go into detail about that?

/ Daniel (Sweden)

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No, I am not. I have been involved in production a few years back, but not with this one, no. Just asking out if curiosity.

/ Daniel (Sweden)

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Yeah, I've seen lot of complaints about that here at IMDb, but honesly, I thought there was nothing wrong with that post you made. Let me be the first one to agree with you that the admins here can be a bit over-protective, even if they're not idiots.

/ Daniel (Sweden)

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Well, I haven't got /one/ single post deleted since I registered here over five years ago. How come?

/ Daniel (Sweden)

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Correct title of this thread:

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is this movie about lesbian romance?

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No, it's about female teenage friendship. But if you want to see some partial lesbian/half undressed teenagers this is for you (pedo warning)

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I'm sad to see that there are deleted posts wich doesn't seem inappropriate, perhaps it contained copywrighted material and therefore was deleted?

About the film - I didn't get a chance to see it at the premiere and I just watched it tonight, and I am grateful that I didn't waste good money at the cinema because this is a waste of time.

There is nothing wrong with the actors and everything technical is working wery smoothly - things that are essential for a good film.

The issues are with the bizarre dialouge, the redicoulous portraits and the absurd nothingness and strained pointlessness wich have for many years caused Swedish people to detest Swedish film. Wich is incredibly sad, we have so much great directors, producers and not to mention actors that suffer from the stupidity of hubris - bloated, Bergman wannabes.

This is a film that will cause the mass to say "it's a bad movie" when it's actually not at all a bad film but rather a poorly executed idea with a crappy manuscript made by a team with far too high thoughts of themselves.

The actors always suffer from this and they sure don't deserve that.

It is admirable how they perform at their best even with nonsense scenes wich makes just no sense with all that pressure on them, Linda Molin have even said that she found it difficult to understand what the director actually wanted. And she is a natural talent, just imagine how she was discoreverd, made this rather complex role and then - pretty much drunk on a releaseparty (or a film premiere, not sure I remember the place correctly) got picked for the part as Kristin in 2012's summer film "Bitch Hug" [Bitchkram] ) She is really awesome.

The young actrice who plays the baby sister is put in extreme situations, having deranged amounts of inapropriate scenes to perform without anyone really caring for the peadophilia topic, depicting a young girl with behaviours wich reminds of incestual sexual abuse. I can only imagine the reason why this never was in the Swedish newspapers as a scandal or "PEADO CHOCK!" as they probably would have liked to phrase it would be the fact that not enough people actually SAW the film due to the bad rep as Swedish film ungratefully has. So not enough people noticed all the wrongs in this waste of time production to rage about it.

To sum it up - This is a wery stupid film with great actors. I would recommend people to NOT pay for it, not buy it and not watch it due to the idiocracy of the contents and all what this film lacks.

But then I can never recommend choices that would have negative effect on the hard working actors, they actually deserve to be watched.

So if it's possible and if you like the actors - watch the film for their sake and observe them, notice how great they are and then pay more attention to their other work and please don't assume that all Swedish film is this moronic.

If you believe that this film is "artsy, provocative and ground breaking" you are being tricked by "The Emperors New Clothes" effect to belive that all foreign film is great by default and anything that doesn't make sense is simply too artistic for you as a viewer to understand. This really isn't.

This is just a horribly bad idea and I wouldn't call 1 frickin' million a "low budget" film because there are tons of actors and a lot of excellent footage in this production so it doesn't get the benefit of being an independent art of work, it is just a complete waste of time and I hold the producers guilty for ruining my evening with this rubbish wich is nothing but a mockery to these great actors.

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I loved the main plot with cassandra and emma, the power play between the teenage girls was spot on i thought. However i didnt care for the little sisters distubing sub plot. The less said about that one the better.

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However i didn't care for the little sisters disturbing sub plot. The less said about that one the better.

Whatever your personal preference, the little sister's (Sara's) sexual awakening did fit onto the main narrative. Sara's first experiences of feelings towards boys and understanding herself as a female linked with Emma's sexual maturity and homosexual experience. She Monkeys is about individual experiences with one's sexuality and its emotional complications, which apply to Sara and Emma.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.

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Having endured this last night I utterly agree with the thoughts of morrissima above. Good actors made to look ridiculous with mind-bogglingly pointless and at times simply offensive scenes that had no place in this mistake of a movie. At what point to people step in and say "this film is going nowhere? They certainly didn't and should have done pretty early on with this one.

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Kudos to the brilliant perception.

In Sweden we have a saying that "Taste is like the butt - Splitted" just like we all have two separete bumcheeks we have different taste. A bit odd but that's just us.

Another thing wich is odd is that one guy in the thread actually likes this timewaster and I don't want to get into an immature bashing competition about who's taste is more "right" then anothers

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Kudos to the brilliant perception.

In Sweden we have a saying that "Taste is like the butt - Splitted" just like we all have two separete bumcheeks we have different taste. A bit odd but that's just us.

Another thing wich is odd is that one guy in the thread actually likes this timewaster and I don't want to get into an immature bashingcompetition about who's taste is more "right" then anothers and just point out some things that could be helpful for people who haven't sen the film or have endured it and might feel frustrated about it.

First of all - You may have opinions about mainstream Hollywood flicks but just because something is made somewhere else doesn't automaticly make it good.

Second to that - This is a MORONIC script with badly written dialouges and nonsense scenes that not even the actors understood.

Linda Molin said that she had a hard time UNDERSTANDING what the director wanted. And she is not a bad actress, new yes, but not bad.

So if you as a viewer feel puzzled, it's okay! The actors didn't even get it!

And if I am to say my opinion the director is the main problem to why this film turned out so bad and it's due to her complete lack of intellect and the curse of having a cosmic sized megalomania. If I would like to be mean I could just say that it's a rediculus p0rnographic fantasy wich she finally made come through. But I'll stick to her being an imbecil.

We have to take responsibility for what we are depicting on the screen. We can't just show violence, incest, abuse, animal cruelty etc without putting morals next to them, if we won't explains why something is done and question it, it just degenerates into nothing more meaningful then a personal snuffagenda.

Why make a wery young and unexperienced girl act in a film that depicts questionable inscest and peadophilia without ever explaining why - to either the cast or the audience? When the topic of the film doesn't even have anything to do with any of it? Stupidities.

Here in Sweden most youths REFUSE to watch Swedish film and bashes it just because crap like this is being produced.

So sad, because there are good Swedish films and series! There is no reason to glorify failured films like this just because it's not from Hollywood, when you actually can watch something great instead!

If it's possible to find it subbed - try to get your eyes on the tv show "Äkta Människor" (Real Humans) and the Swedish - Danish production "Bron" (The Bridge)

If you like artsy stuff - Well, then prized filmographer Roy Anderssons "A Pidgeon sat on a branch and contemplated about existence" just got the Golden Lion award in Venice and might just be possible to watch on the smaller screens.

If you would like to watch a much better story about coming if age and young love (and Vampire Mowgli!) DO see "Låt den rätte komma in" (let the right one in) and don't bother about the american remake.

You can watch complex vintage classics like "Doktor Glas" (Doctor Glass) and Bergmans "Det Sjunde Inseglet" (The Sevent Seal) if you prefer the artsy and min mainstream.

Or perhaps go for hilarious and joyable comedic films like "Kopps" (yeah.... Just wishing to be REAL COPS ;3 ) or a little bit more dramatik but still funny "Yalla Yalla" by the same film maker Josef Fares.

He have also made a more serious tearjearker called "Zozo" I really recommend it.

DI you want to watch an unknown dogmatic indie horror flick? Look up "Det Okända" (The Unknown)

And while you're at it, try to find an older series called "The Utvalda" (The Chosen) a tv show that gave people nightmares.

Perhaps some vintage police stuff?

Well, even though Sweden likes crime and that cops are much better om film then in reality the older crime series might not be too attractive to non Swedes (because we get nostalgic) it could still be worth looking up a 90's Beck film named "Spår i mörker" - (Traces in the Dark)

It WAS a really riveting film back then. Today it's not equally as good as it would be as if it was made now but it's still in interesting piece of work.

Unless you haven't seen the Milennium Triology you ought to and don't miss the Easy Money trio "Snabba Cash" It's terrific!

Older "Under Ytan" (Under the surface" us horrifying in trafficking ways and is pointing out cracks in society in dark manner.

This list of good films could be longe but let's end it with some bad films so we stick to the theme of badly executed films.

"Ping - Pong Kingen"

(The Ping Pong King)

Pointless, doesn't lead anwhere.

"Iskariot"

Back in 2008 the standards were set too now. This could have been a GREAT film but the teatraliskt dialouges and the lack of a good direction made this production faceplant. Sadly. Worth to watch if you go in with that in mind.

"Flickan" (The Girl)

This is a waste of everyones time and an insult to the AWESOME actors and the frustrated audience.

This film have - BEAUTIFUL settings, Fricking TOP NOTCH camera work and FLAWLESS actors.

What it lacks is a proper scripts without the swiss cheese madness of plot holes and logical explanations to all the meaningless stupidities.

It's such a SHAME!

This should be a great piece of art but again the hubris of below average directors dictate their megalomanic dumbness into a farse.

It's worth watching this film to see the difference between good and bad film making and for the sake of the incredibly talanted child actress who now is completely forgotten and could have ended up with an award if this film just would have hoten the directing it actually deserved.

"Faro"

I had such expectations for this film, the plot felt interesting and the portraited nature in the trailer was really alluring.

Sadly it was a dissapointment just like Apflickorna and Flickan due to plot holes, a completly unneccesary murder of a dog and endless stupidities and non logical decisions from the main charachters.

There are so much more to watch, both good and bad but I'll end this comment with the thanks to imdb enabling regular people to review and share experiences about film so we viewers can save some of our precious time to avoid pointless movies!

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I so agree with everything you said in your post. You said many things so I´m not going into detail, but you are right that this was only an excuse to make a distasteful movie.
Thanks for that analisys of swedish cinema!

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I did not enjoy this movie. The scenes were awkward and unrealistic. I don't think people behave like this in any country. Completely serious face for a long period of time, they somehow understand what the other is thinking, and they break out into a smile. And yet, still say absolutely nothing. The dialogue had absolutely no substance. And I never really got a feel for who the main character was. And, no not because she's mysterious. I think the script was just very poorly written.

Also, I felt uncomfortable every time the little sister was on screen. She was cute, and I wish I hadn't had this anxious feeling throughout the entire film that she was going to be molested by one of the male characters.

Ultimately, I felt like there was a lot of build up in this film which amounted to a whole lot of nothing.

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I can understand why you feel like this, even tho I don't agree with you. I think this film works, basically becuse it's working despite being so unamerican.

It's not bad, it's just unusual. There is a world beyond Hollywood, remember?

/ Daniel (Sweden)

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I couldn't have said it better myself

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I couldn't have said it better myself in your description of this faceplant failure

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the pitchfork scene just didn't ring true.

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No, the pitchfork scene. Not the whole Film.

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