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Winston is the MVP again this week...

posted 8 years ago by dear_frankie
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Weak episode. Political stuff was meh. I didn't find it particularly offensive (it's always been a liberal show so it's dumb if you get up in arms about the bias), but I also didn't find it particularly funny.

The Cece college stuff didn't really go anywhere. Glad she graduated community college, but I hope they give her something else to do next besides just be Schmidt's wife. I always thought it was a missed opportunity for them not to make Cece really good at business and go back for a business degree so she could help Nick & Schmidt buy and run their own bar someday.

Winston saved the B-story with Nick/Reagan. MVP as always. Nick's letters to Winston were sweet. A bit of a callback to S1 where Nick says that he used to be Winston's Shelby. Schmidt was also good, even though the A-story was weak.

Hope next week's episode is better. Looking forward to the return of Nadia and Robbie.

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[–] trazey34 8 years ago

Winston cracks me up, like...laughing out loud by myself like an idiot cracks me up hahah

As for the political stuff, I would have been fine if they discovered the sorority sisters were Trump supporters and STILL registered them to vote. Ditching them and basically hoping they don't vote because they aren't on their side was awful

I thought it was a great idea having Schmidt stump for Paul Ryan 2020 and completely ignore this year haha

Someone who disagrees with you is NOT a hater 😉

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[–] dear_frankie 8 years ago

Winston is the one character that keeps getting better and better every season and Lamorne Morris always brings his A game. The show is starting to show its age and I think it's a good time to wrap everything up, but I'll be sad when the show ends and we don't get anymore Winston every week. I hope Lamorne lands on a good show somewhere else.

Totally agreed that the sorority sisters should have still been registered to vote. That's actually what people should really be offended by, not the Hillary propaganda. Voter disenfranchisement is still alive and well in America. Look at North Carolina. The politicians there pass voter restriction laws and do political gerrymandering to make sure the candidates they want to win actually win and block out minority voters. There are still people that mail fake ballots with fake voting days to make sure votes aren't counted. It's actively harmful to show how this is okay even as a joke on a sitcom. It's not funny because I think some people don't see how it's wrong. It's an attack on voting rights. You wouldn't want people to throw your vote away so you can't turn around and do it to someone else, regardless of who the candidate is.

Schmidt was great in this episode. His support for Paul Ryan was a nice character touch, a callback to him loving Romney in an earlier season.

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[–] Curtis_C_Flush 8 years ago

I don't think he loved Romney. He just didn't mind getting mistaken for one of his sons. And he thought they were a nice family or something like that.

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[–] dear_frankie 8 years ago

You don't think so? Maybe, maybe not. It's been a while since I've seen the episode but it's the one where he wants to get into a club because Kanye is supposed to be there or something, right? Maybe he just liked being associated with someone famous. Although the reason he wants Paul Ryan to become president in 2020 may be because he does in fact love Romney. Could go either way really.

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[–] Curtis_C_Flush 8 years ago

Maybe I'd have to watch the episode again, but I seem to remember Schmidt getting mistaken for a Romney kid and then using it to try to pick up girls in a college Republican club.

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[–] dear_frankie 8 years ago

Yeah, but he got really into it. I think Cece mentioned it might have something to do with his dad in that episode too. I think on some level he likes Romney...I mean great head of hair, wears a suit, sounds like Schmidt's kind of guy.

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[–] Curtis_C_Flush 8 years ago

The Trump/Hillary stuff didn't bother me at all, but I'm not sure how that has "always been a liberal show." As for the previous overly political episode in the series, when Schmidt poses as "Tugg Romney," I thought it was handled fairly impartially, just like this latest episode.

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[–] dear_frankie 8 years ago

I may be reading into the show a bit by saying "it's always been a liberal show" just in how they've handled interracial relationships and gay characters. I know the showrunner is liberal, but last week's episode is probably the only time I would say the show pushed politics over their characters or plot in an episode. I thought the "Tugg Romney" stuff was fairly impartial as well (it was more about Schmidt than about the politics) but last week's episode was pretty overbearingly political.

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[–] Curtis_C_Flush 8 years ago

By default, it's easier to assume most writers and showrunners are liberal. As long as those biases don't seep into the show too heavily, I'm fine. I'v never seen this show as being that liberal previously. It's barely had any LGBT stuff, and that's in every show nowadays. There's not even a primary character who's gay. And who cares about interracial relationships?

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[–] dear_frankie 8 years ago

There was that one episode that Lamorne Morris wrote that touched on police brutality in S4. That leaned liberal but I don't think that was a very memorable episode so there wasn't much pushback against that, unlike last week's episode.

There was Sadie that was gay (Jess's gynecologist friend) but we haven't seen her in a while and Reagan is supposed to be bisexual, but you're right that they really haven't done anything really significant with those issues. I thought they were going somewhere with Reagan's bisexuality but it was ultimately disappointing to just put Nick/Reagan together. Some people interpret a show as "liberal" if they even mention gay characters but a lot of people have the same criticisms as you do about LGBT representation (no main characters that are gay, no major storylines).

They touch on Jess's feminism a few times on the show and that can read "liberal" to some people.

You'd be surprised how many people still care about interracial relationships in this day and age. Alabama didn't amend its constitution until 2000 to remove laws prohibiting interracial marriage. It also gets complicated once you throw the racial dynamics of inter-cultural relationships into the mix like in the episode "Big Mama P."

Overall, I think the show has skewed liberal, but you're right that it hasn't been that overt about it. It's still a sitcom after all. I still think last week's episode was beating us over the head a little bit with it, but maybe it feels that way coming fresh off the first presidential candidate debate. It felt like overkill.

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[–] Curtis_C_Flush 8 years ago

I have no criticisms on how they've handled LGBT material. They've acknowledged the issues without being overbearing. And IMO, this last episode wasn't that political. I think the only overt criticism of Trump was Schmidt's comment on his "helmet hair," or something like that. They mentioned both parties without showing one in a perfect light and trashing the other.

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