Well the long journey to Big Box Office results is finally winding to a crawl.
BP is still in the Top 5 for daily box office totals but it is well below $1 Million.
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As of Friday 04/13/2018 it was back above $1 Million but can't stay there. Too few screens and now a much more crowded field.
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As of Sunday 05/13/2018 BP jumped into 9th place WW displacing Harry Potter.
I didn't expect it to fall this much. It seems counterintuitive when you consider last weeks holds and the weekend. Maybe it has finally run out of steam now it has passed all it would be able to (1.3 billion, 3rd all time, tenth worldwide). Crazy sudden drop from 1,635,447 to 641,593. It doesn't really matter, since it has grossed way more than anyone expected, but it's still a bit odd. It made less than the Avengers did on the 53rd day of release!
shareI think it might tick back up to a Million for one of the days of this weekend, definitely by Friday and the weekend of course.
shareIt may be, but it has definitely fallen a lot. -53% in the first three days after the weekend (compared with the previous week). According to this drop rate, it should be at ~678 million after week 10. Then A:IW premieres. We'll see after this weekend if the drop continues.
shareI would venture to guess that the previous one to two weeks were supported by a bump from the "Spring Break" crowds who are now back in school. There remains strong residual support for BP even with the increased number of movies appealing to a similar demographic beyond the "Cultural Event/Significance" attendees.
shareGood point. So, it was the previous weeks which were anomalous, not this week. If what you say is true, then it could likely pass 680 million.
shareGood point. So, it was the previous weeks which were anomalous, not this week. If what you say is true, then it could likely pass 680 million.Spring break is staggered across the US so I would say the past month had tons of schools and students with free time.
Looks like you were right, judging by the weekend and mon + tue, the decrease went into the thirties instead, while monday only fell 16.6% relative to the previous monday. It may therefore reach 679 million this weekend and 680 million before next weekend. 683 is not out of the question just yet.
share.. judging by the weekend and Mon + Tue, the decrease went into the thirties instead, while Monday only fell 16.6% relative to the previous Monday. It may therefore reach 679 million this weekend and 680 million before next weekend. $683 Million is not out of the question just yet.Black Panther will indeed pass the Adjusted for Inflation total for the Dark Knight ($683 Million) which will be the last milestone of any notoriety that it will conquer.
Edit: It now has 683,628,489, so it has indeed passed.
shareLooking at the friday numbers, it seems like it has gotten a slight boost, it may eventually pass Star Wars: The Last Jedi all time worldwide box office after all. After this weekend it will be at over 1.33 billion. Edit: it went past Star Wars: all time worldwide box office already this sunday! So it will stay in top ten even after potentially A:IW passes (worldwide BO, A:IW will undoubtedly make more)
shareWell it needed to ease down. I consider this the calm before the storm... Infinity War storm...
shareYears from now, when I'm old and gray, I and my contemporaries shall tell our grandchildren where we were and what we were doing on that fateful 53rd Day when Black Panther fell below $1 Million.
Tell them we will. Listen they shall. Care they will not.
Damn lousy youngsters. Don't respect anything.
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Years from now, when I'm old and gray, I and my contemporaries shall tell our grandchildren where we were and what we were doing on that fateful 53rd Day when Black Panther fell below $1 Million.Don't tell them about the 53rd day (The Tree) regale them with the final accomplishment (The Forest).
Speaking of trees, they've been stealing from my future-self's apple tree. I oughta tan their hides!!!
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Speaking of trees, they've been stealing from my future-self's apple tree. I oughta tan their hides!!!WOW! Sounds like a dystopian future for your future-self. Dem darn scallywags will be calling you an Agricultural Hoarder and you'll shout back, "I'm a farmer not an agraianist. You bunch of Agricultural Misappropriaters!"
I'm going to buy one more ticket. I've been rewatching the MCU films in preparation for the Infinity War release, and rewatched Thor Ragnarok tonight. Alas, there's no 3D showings for Black Panther left in my town.
shareThis brings up an intriguing question. Some theaters are actually running marathons of every Marvel movie leading to the IW premiere. This includes Black Panther. Does any portion of the earnings from this stunt go towards the box office or will all the proceeds be used to hose out the theaters after fanboys sat in their own filth for 30 some hours?
share"fanboys sat in their own filth for 30 some hours?"
Yink! You, sir, just grossed me out lol. Would some people actually do that?? I wouldn't stay there for more than... One movie.
Alas, there's no 3D showings for Black Panther left in my town.I'm trying to decide if I want to own BP in 3D? I did purchase the 4K release and was a bit ticked off that there was no Combo Multimedia release (4K/3D/2D/Digital Download). That made no sense and in order to get that 3D version you will be double dipped and charged a premium.
You will have to buy it from some other territory than the USA, Black Panther 3D Blu-ray wasn't released here, nor was Thor Ragnarok 3D Blu-ray. I bought them Region Free from Amazon UK, and have all of the MCU movies on 3D Blu-ray if they were released in 3D (Iron Man, Hulk, Iron Man 2 weren't).
shareYeah, I kind of noticed that before I posted. My order is sitting in my Amazon shopping cart. They have a two movie offer of BP and Thor:Ragnarok for $74 which isn't a deal to me. So I am thinking before I pull the trigger.
I also have this eerie feeling that there will be a secondary release of BP, maybe a collector's edition that will be out there probably near the BP2 release. Also there will be a boxed set if and when Marvel gets to a trilogy.
Example? One needs look no further than the Nolan version of Batman and the Dark Knight. That cash cow continues to get milked. Or is that the other way around and it is the fans who are getting milked?
Marvel hasn't released a special edition of any of their movies, so I wouldn't expect one. There will not be a USA 3D release, home 3D is dead here.
I paid £18.08 for Thor Ragnarok and £18.07 for Black Panther (including shipping to USA) or around $24 US.
Something just tells me that BP is different and maybe Coogler might want that Collectors Edition. In some ways I would relish more in-movie content, ala a Directors Cut.
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I also think Marvel should do that for Avengers:Infinity War. From Thanos' POV it deserves a Collectors Edition.
So I am on record for 3D and a Collectors Edition that isn't about new packaging. I remember and am talking to you, Phases 1 and 2 of the MCU and the briefcase feature. I already had all of the movies so I didn't want or need Fury's tesseract carrying case. But if Marvel did a vibrainium inspired case maybe I would think about it.
I just thought about it, NOPE!
Marvel hasn't released a special edition of any of their movies, so I wouldn't expect one.Maybe an 'Extended Cut'? Ultimate Edition? share
If you buy the 3D/2D combo packs from Amazon UK then Ragnarok is currently £9.99 ($13.09) and Black Panther is £14.16 ($18.56). I just now added both to my cart and the total for delivery including shipping is $38.43 US (the Amazon UK page can display the total in US dollars).
EDIT: The list price for Ragnarok is £11.99 and BP is £16.99, but change to the cheaper prices I listed above when I actually start the checkout process.
They've been milking it waiting for it to hit $700M domestic.
It was good (8.5/10), but it wasn't nearly as good as that # would indicate.
They've been milking it waiting for it to hit $700M domestic.The $700 Million total domestic does not indicate how "Good" BP is or Isn't by itself. The Dark Knight sits at $690 Million Adjusted for Inflation and BP has already surpassed that amount and might soon hit $700 Million. Both are successful movies in terms of audience viewing and yet BP is even more successful as a movie because it was a relatively unknown property. The Dark Knight even had fewer International eyes viewing the film.
It was good (8.5/10), but it wasn't nearly as good as that # would indicate.
Well, now it has gotten less attention due to the massive opening of A:IW, but it still makes some money and it's definitely approaching Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 (worldwide BO), so it's not finished just yet!
shareSunday (05/06/18) was day # 80 of BP's box office and it stands at $693,126,615 which is a remarkable dollar amount domestically and as you've stated gives BP an outside chance at meeting and maybe surpassing Harry Potter Deathly Hallows Part 2's WW amount. BP is only $3.1 Million away and even though the Blu-Ray release is due out on May 15th it will probably remain in theaters still eking out dollars.
But what does it mean for Marvel/Disney? I just don't think there is any way for them to recreate this type of performance again for this character. Maybe BP staying in theaters will help A:IW gain in domestic box office due to the novelty of having multiple Marvel movies on screens at the same time? At some point there could be three with Ant-Man and the Wasp debuting on 07/06/2018. That would put BP being in release for 140 days. The Dark Knight Rises was in release for 147 days and The Dark Knight was in release for 231 days! So it's not unheard of.
Regardless, Congrats to Marvel/Disney BP and to the audience for creating such a moment. I'm eagerly awaiting BP 2.
It has to take home the whole remaining BO from the domestic market, though, as in the last two weeks it has practically dropped out of existence in the international BO. In fact, BO Mojo didn't add any cume for their 05/06 update for overseas BO, it's still at $645,192,884 as it was last week! (edit turns out is is lower, I couldn't remember the number, it made negative BO since last weekend)
The estimate for yesterday was $645,857,458 (?) with $390,000 for the weekend. It makes a significant difference of $664,574, but as the worldwide BO on BO Mojo is 1,338,428,476, it would've brought it to 1,339,093,050 - the estimate yesterday was 1,338,984,073 before the actuals were known.
It was that kind of BO I had in mind when I wrote that "it's not finished just yet". It would've had to make only ~2½ million to beat Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2. Considering it made $3,254,977 this weekend and 1,615,698 monday-thursday, that's a total of 4.87 million, it could've passed that HP movie next weekend, if it had similar drops as the previous weeks!
Edit: looked over at BO Theory - some had noticed this as well, and they suggest it's due to exchange rate, though it seems really odd it should affect the whole accumulated BO and not just the exchange rate for last week.
The difference might very well be the numbers reported are estimates and overseas numbers take quite a while to finalize over time. If you add up the numbers by country you will find a huge discrepancy. I think the exchange rates "might" have something to do with that but that would mean that all overseas box office numbers would then have to be constantly adjusted for all movies and you don't see that happening.
So I'm just going to chalk it up to the inaccuracy of receipts posted as projected vs estimate vs final.
Take a look at Avengers Infinity War and the numbers shown for overseas by country don't even come close to the total of $714,603,260. The figures are always weeks behind and in some cases NEVER match the total posted.
I don't know, but sometimes they do not list all countries BO in the list. I assume the BO is company reports, which may be in local currency(?). Basically it means that overseas BO in US$ is unreliable, only domestic BO is reliable (when it comes to small differences like this, obviously they're roughly right). The dollar has indeed increased in value between April 16 and May 7, which supports the idea that it is based in exchange rate - though I honestly have no real clue.
shareEdit: I changed the text, because it has indeed passed the Harry Potter movie; when overseas BO is included, it is at $1,342,013,841. It's still only nineth, because it has itself been passed by A:IW.
shareAlso the Saturday and Sunday estimated dailies were updated and BP pulled in a tad bit more money from each.
Yes BP is now 9th World Wide and will stay in the top 10 for a while since leapfrogging Harry Potter, and BP will be pushed down one slot soon as Avengers 4 (2019) or maybe even Solo come along? If not sooner.
This run by BP is nothing short of stunning for Marvel both domestically and internationally regardless of some pundits who claim that the international numbers for BP are "soft". $645,827,230 for a barely known superhero origin story outside comic-dom is outstanding. I can't recall any CBM origin or 1st outing performing like that. Hancock with Will Smith only did $396,440,472 which was a phenomenal number given that Superheroes at one time were not popular beyond the shores of USA.
No more barriers to cross for BP. I just don't see Disney/Marvel keeping BP in theaters to reach $700 Million.
How does Marvel create an Act II that performs like BP? It can't. BP was a one-time event film. A well done one-time event film.
Yes it has been impressive. Whenever it seemed like it could go no further, it just did anyway.
I found it entertaining to follow, especially because of all the initial naysayers. I imagined it would do well from the start, but it certainly went beyond my expectations.
No more barriers to cross for BP. I just don't see Disney/Marvel keeping BP in theaters to reach $700 Million.When BP is so tantalizing close to $700 Million I'm guessing Disney/Marvel says, "The Hell with this! Let's go for it!"
As I was speculating on the financial success for BP and the future for BP 2 I said this:
But what does it mean for Marvel/Disney? I just don't think there is any way for them to recreate this type of performance again for this character. Maybe BP staying in theaters will help A:IW gain in domestic box office due to the novelty of having multiple Marvel movies on screens at the same time? At some point there could be three with Ant-Man and the Wasp debuting on 07/06/2018. That would put BP being in release for 140 days. The Dark Knight Rises was in release for 147 days and The Dark Knight was in release for 231 days! So it's not unheard of.BP is in fewer and fewer theaters but it looks like it might just remain in theaters along with Marvel's Avengers Infinity War and Ant Man and the Wasp. That in and of itself is a stunning accomplishment in maintaining relevancy and owning "mindshare". I don 't see any spend on marketing but the theaters can spin those three into a must see event experience even though Ant Man and the Wasp really only connects to Captain America: Civil War.
It's kind of annoyingly close to 700 million, lol. They did it with a Wrinkle In Time (also Disney), they gave it some more seats and the BO exploded in that weekend (june 15-17) and so it passed 100 million. I have no clue how they could do that stunt, but it shows they're willing to do this kind of manipulation.
shareI'd venture to guess that the theater counts went up when A Wrinkle in Time was released to the discount theater chains. All movies go through that resurgence cycle or uptick.
shareThat could explain it, though it's odd the count went down again right after. Are they only in the discount theatres in one week?
shareI wouldn't try and monitor the first run and discount theater counts. AWIT could have lost more first run screens and thus you would have noticed an additional net loss. I don't see any nefarious skullduggery afoot by Disney.
shareYeh, it probably really just was a week of many discount screenings. If only they did the same discount thing with BP.
shareI agree but the sustained popularity of BP may have already included the first run to discount theater transfer of screens quicker and more seamlessly than A Wrinkle In time. BP held it's audience quite efficiently for some reason and no doubt even some first run theaters gleefully held onto screens because money was still coming in.
A case could be made that piracy and pirate streaming services would cut into a blockbuster's revenue stream more effectively negating a discount theater's access to first run movies to a larger extent than a movie perceived as a bomb.
It's kind of annoyingly close to 700 million, lol.That $700 Million domestic is both tantalizingly and frustratingly dangled in front of Disney. It really is an achievement that is meaningless but nonetheless right there for the taking!
164 Days in release. Now that BP is down to a paltry number of theaters (15) and a per screen average of $67 there is no way that BP will reach $700 Million. There is just no financial reason for a theater to continue having showings with no paying butts in seats.
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