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How much frontloading is going on here?


If we look at these preview numbers we see that they are excellent but still behind many films that would go on to top the weekend out at 140...150...160 million and yet so many see this as hitting 170...180...even 200(!) million.

Why? Where is the precedent for that? If we are looking at historical precedent this will fall well below 150 million. I still peg it under 125 million for the 3-day.

Make fun all you want...we will patiently wait for today's matinee numbers.

Like one analyst said..."We are in for a bumpy weekend for predictions." LOL...he got that right but the "bumps" may not be what many were expecting.

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Another issue that may magnify the frontloading is the audience score at 76%...visions of The Last Jedi's weak legs are unfortunately popping up.

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Queen: What did you say before? Lol, I think mods are removing posts if its controversial difference of opinion on the movie.

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Mods are not removing posts that are controversial.

They are requesting that Off-Topic posts and Off-Topic discussions be held in the appropriate forum. The Mod even gave an example as well as an explanation.

Stop spreading fear.

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To my knowledge none if my posts have been removed. There would certainly no reason to.

If this film is frontloaded, then the trajectory would land BP at 115-120 million for the 3-day. None other than Scott Mendelsohn at Forbes says that if there is heavy frontloading that is the number it will get.

Horror of horrors...that was my exact projection!

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To my knowledge none if my posts have been removed.[/quote]



Well, let's keep hope alive that it starts happening.


[quote]There would certainly no reason to.


Sure there would. You bring down the IQ of any room you're in by 75 points, Corky.

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TLJ was extremely front loaded. It stopped making real money about 45 days into release. But then again it made 1.3b. I imagine BP will be front loaded as well because of all the hype. I am just not sure how well it will do in the foreign market.

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Yes it looks like BP will be heavily frontloaded. We'll see if Disney has another Last Jedi problem on their hands as early as tomorrow night when we can see the Friday to Saturday hold.

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I guess it all depends on the word of mouth come Monday morning. Fifty Shades made 570m just because people were curious about the movie. BP could be the same thing. It could makes tons of money and be bad movie or it could be another WW, who knows.

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It will be shocking if this is able to reach Wonder Woman money domestically but stranger things have happened.

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It will be shocking if this is able to reach Wonder Woman money domestically but stranger things have happened.
As of yesterday the BP box office officially soared past Wonder Woman.

No one expected that amount of domestic acceptance of BP. It does show that there is a pent-up demand for representation. A word that the cast continues to talk about with BP.

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Pent up demand for representation? Is that what it shows? That was the narrative before the movie even came out. Look for more movies coming soon that set up what the coming phenomenon is going to be and what we are to think about it. What it shows is how to properly market a property.
BP was decent. I hope it makes lots more money ... or not. I don't care. It wasn't "amazing" nor was it some kind of racial triumph. It was middle of the road Marvel stuff. I'd watch a sequel.

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Yes it looks like BP will be heavily frontloaded. We'll see if Disney has another Last Jedi problem on their hands as early as tomorrow night when we can see the Friday to Saturday hold.

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Queenie couldn't predict his own death even if he was in front of a firing squad blindfolded with a cigarette in the mouth.

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I'm thinking about making a Queen Tribute thread where I list all his comments that failed from JL,Thor 3,TLJ and now BP....

the problem is I dont know how to make it...there are just so many they wont all fit, I would have to create the post, then reply to like 6 times in order to list all of Queens failed predictions and comments....still might do it though....

I made a "Leemall Tribute" thread on IMDB boards years ago...I swear that thing Lived on forever....

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He just earned it. I will really look forwart to read it.

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In defense of Queen, BP is extremely front loaded. Next to front loaded in the dictionary is a picture of black panther.

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In defense of Queen, BP is extremely front loaded. Next to front loaded in the dictionary is a picture of black panther.

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Naw theres no defense for queen....

Queen expected BP to collapse,have bad fri to sat to sun holds, Instead in had Excellent...Queen expected BP to Open Huge then have Massive collapses in the coming weeks, instead BP had a Great 2nd weekend Hold

bit of advice..its clear you dont like the MCU, of course this is a problem for you since the MCU films are so successful they are almost troll proof...but the worst possible thing you could do is try to defend or piggyback off queen....

youd be much better off just coming up with your desperate and Shameless trolling rather than trying piggyback off queens ALL TIME Awful trolling

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[–] Bubbathegut (3012) 16 hours ago

In defense of Queen, BP is extremely front loaded. Next to front loaded in the dictionary is a picture of black panther.


Wow, we already know you are an idiot, but just don't give us more proofs of that, please. How can you call frontloaded a film that is only entering its second week and that just posted the second best 2nd weekend box office take of the history and a drop of only 45%...

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When a movie makes $750m in 12 days, its called front loading. The Last Jedi made all its money in 45 days, which was also front loaded. The staying power of movies these days is rare. Jumanji is one that is not front loaded. It posted $1.6m on day 68, quite impressive IMO.

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When a movie makes $750m in 12 days, its called front loading. The Last Jedi made all its money in 45 days, which was also front loaded. The staying power of movies these days is rare. Jumanji is one that is not front loaded. It posted $1.6m on day 68, quite impressive IMO.

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naw frontloaded universally gets thrown around for films that Start off Strong and Immediately collapse....

BvS is a great example...Twilight films...

a film that has better than 50% holds is by definition NOT FRONTLOADED....

Black Panther started off HUGE and is continuing to come in HUGE

BP made 400 Million Globa in its first weekend, It Will end over 1 Billion...Meaning it made another 600 M+ after opening Weekend....thats NOT Frontloaded, that A Continuous Box office Run....

BP made 200 Million + OW..In will end close to or over 600 M Domestic...that NOT Frontloaded, That A an incredible box office run where Black Panther continued have Huge Weekends...

again Example...BvS, Had a 420 MIllion + Globa opening...It ended its run at 870 M....BvS basically made Half its entire Gross on Opening Weekend...thats FRONTLOADED

BvS made 166 Million OW domestically....finished with 330 Million for Its Entire run....that Means BvS made More than half of its entire domestic RUN on OW.....thats the definition of Frontloaded

Its clear you dont understand "Frontloaded".

and by far your biggest mistake was giving the example "Look up Frontloaded in the dictionary a picture of Black Panther is there"

had you just did a little research you would have seen, there was another recent CBM in BvS and it truly is the definition Of Frontloaded....

theres just no where to go...NOthing about BP suggests front loaded...Its the opposite...

BP is going to have close to or near a 3.0 X multiplier for for its domestic OW....thats Incredibly GREAT for films opening over 170 M...its great for any Opening but especially great for an opening that big....

PS your Jumanji example is flawed...You specifically listed a film that has had ALL TIME great legs

When talking about Box office holds theres 3 categories...Frontloaded, Regular, Great Holds....

Jumanji Is Past Great holds and on to Historic Holds....

Just because a film doesnt have Historic holds...doesnt mean its Frontloaded....

Black Panther is having Great Weekend Holds and Regular-ish Week day holds....overall Black Panther is having Above average to Good Holds......

those are the facts...If you want to argue BP isnt having Jumanji/Historic Holds, fine the facts back up, But you cant argue BP is Frontloaded or even having Bad holds...The facts in no way back that up



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"PS your Jumanji example is flawed...You specifically listed a film that has had ALL TIME great legs"


I am pretty sure I said Jumanji was not front loaded.

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"PS your Jumanji example is flawed...You specifically listed a film that has had ALL TIME great legs"


I am pretty sure I said Jumanji was not front loaded.

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I know...You threw out Jumanji's Historic Great Holds in an attempt to make it seem like Black Panther is front loaded....

You knew BP was having Good holds, you knew Its in no way Front loaded, But decided to compare BP to Jumanji to prove BP was front loaded...

and that comparison is flawed....isnt doesnt prove BP is Front Loaded...It simply Proves BP isnt havent ALL TIME great holds like Jumanji...

your Horrible, I mean Horrible comparison would be similar to if I Compared Jumanji to Avatar....

If I claimed Ya Jumanji Is having Great Holds, But whats really impressive is Avatar, 750 Million Domestically, Had an over 6 months run at the box office...thats impressive

With Jumanji, Your literally having to compare a film with Historically great legs to try and prove BP is frontloaded...

With Jumanji, If I wanted to troll.....I'd have to look to the successful film of ALL TIME, Id have to compare it to Avatar...but even then It wouldnt mean Jumanji was frontloaded or mean anything bad,,It would just mean, Jumanji didnt beat Avatar, It still had Great holds and results

thats where you are at with your awful Jumanji comparison, just because BP didnt have Jumanji holds doesnt make it frontloaded or doesnt mean anything bad...BP simply just didnt beat Jumanji(a film which had ALL TIME holds)....

your comparison is deeply flawed at best, but probably just Desperate trolling....

PS nice response to all my other facts where I proved with Stats and data what Frontloaded actually is and then gave perfect examples of it....way to just completely turn into ghost there

was it this that really got you....

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and by far your biggest mistake was giving the example "Look up Frontloaded in the dictionary a picture of Black Panther is there"

had you just did a little research you would have seen, there was another recent CBM in BvS and it truly is the definition Of Frontloaded....
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was it me pointing out if were going to look in the dictionary, There truly is A PERFECT example in another CBM in BvS...

hard to respond to such a damning blow I know....but I at least expected you to try...

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[–] TwistedAcrobat (1725) a month ago
= Worldwide: $704,000,422

In 10 days. 1 billion is looking almost a certainty.


Front loaded anyone?

lolz

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Front loaded anyone?
Ahhhh, it is so great when young'uns learn new hip phrases and start using them for everything. Pretty soon will a busty woman be called Frontloaded too?

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That's dumbie wanted to be called dumb... What can we do about it?

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Yes, he is dumb...

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nothing wrong with a front loaded woman...

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[–] Bubbathegut (3138) an hour ago
nothing wrong with a front loaded woman...
But in your use of the term that, ahem, Frontloaded woman has no legs?

Not that there is anything wrong with that!

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haha good point and thats messed up!

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Another issue that may magnify the frontloading is the audience score at 76%...visions of The Last Jedi's weak legs are unfortunately popping up.

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‏ @ERCboxoffice
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BLACK PANTHER has word-of-mouth like no other. A better than expected Sunday and Monday have led to $241.9M over the 4-day weekend, which is 2nd only to STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS w/ $288M.

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lol cant make this up....

queen desperate tries to claim Black Panther is having Weak legs......lol Black Panther goes on to LITERALLY ALL TIME great Holds....

Queen desperately tries to bring up RTs Audience score to suggest Black Panther has poor Word of mouth.....Black Panther Literally goes on to Maybe have the Best WOM of ALL TIME....


good thing good is avoiding the board the last 24 hours, Just A Brutally Beating Queen is taking!

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If we look at these preview numbers we see that they are excellent but still behind many films that would go on to top the weekend out at 140...150...160 million and yet so many see this as hitting 170...180...even 200(!) million.

Why? Where is the precedent for that? If we are looking at historical precedent this will fall well below 150 million. I still peg it under 125 million for the 3-day.

^^^ this is just flat out SCARY

this truly makes me this you are mentally challenged or A CHILD....

I dont want to BULLY a weaker person....

how you could possibly look at and read the half Dozen websites reporting Black Panthers early box office and come to the conclusion Black Panther is gonna make 125 Million...Is again more than Trolling...Its Impossible, no adult or normal person could read these simple results and come up with something so absurd...the ONLY explanation is...You simply can not understand what you are reading, You cant comprehend what the half dozen websites are reporting...therefor you throw out this absurd 125 Million dollar prediction and dont realize how absurd and LITERALLY impossible it is

queen, because you clearly didnt comprehend anything you read, Let me tell you what all these sites reported...

BP made 25 Million Last night......Black Panther is going to make between 70 to 80 Million on Friday(today), based on these numbers, box office analysts can absolutely 100% predict Black Panther Will make at least 172 Million for the 3 day weekend(Maybe more)

125 Million is not even a possibility...its is SO SCARY that you even could entertain the idea the it is....

Another issue that may magnify the frontloading is the audience score at 76%...visions of The Last Jedi's weak legs are unfortunately popping up.

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this is not a good tactic to take queen...I get it at this point, Black Panthers opening weekend is so great even you cant troll on it, so your now focusing on Next week(Just as I predicted you would)....

but this too is badly going to fail....because theres not a single thing that suggests Black Panther is going to be front loaded and have weak legs, every single thing points to Black Panther Having Great Legs simlar to Wonder Woman....

I know desperate times call for desperate measures but even you have to feel some SHAME using the RT Audience score right? I mean talk about scrapping the bottom of the barrel...lol there have been dozens of reports and articles the last 2 weeks detailing how a large group of DC fans were

this isn't you simply being troll....this you completely lacking the ability to comprehend box office results being reported by a half dozen websites ALL REPORTING the exact same thing....

it would be one thing if you were trolling and making spite threads saying "Sure Black Panthers Opening weekend is Great but lets not get to excited, It could be extremely frontloaded and could collapse next weekend"....this would be quite SAD, but at least understandable, You would just be Giving up on trolling on Black Panther Opening Weekend and Moving on to Next Weekend...

but thats not at all what you did here...You literally created A Thread that shows you have A Shocking and SCARY lack of ability to comprehend simply box office results....

I swear to you I'm not kidding, the second I read this post, I immediately got this weird feeling like I truly didnt want to respond, because the second I read this the ONLY thoughts going through my Mind was "Dear God this isnt normal, this isnt right, this isnt a troll thread, this is A SAD thread that reveals the poster isn't Normal and doesnt have the knowledge or capacity to understand box office"

I truly feel now more than ever that you are CHILD queen or a mentally challenged adult, which truly bothers me, because

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going to sabotage Black Panthers RT score.lol its literally been public knowledge for over 2 weeks, I find it quite telling that you've been forced to fall back on something so desperate, lol

Black Panthers Audiences Score is the lowest out of all MCU films, and by far started out the LOwest..whats more likely? that Audiences just suddenly started hating MCU films 18 films deep? or Black Panther is in fact the prey of a well documented Sabotage compaign by DC fans

lol to further prove this point, did you know Black Panthers IMDB score also plummeted, and was the lowest of All MCU films...but heres the kicker, this happened before the film even came out, before Audiences ever actually seen the movie, lol this is clear proof, that there is in fact large group of DC fans sabotaging Black Panthers score, the only reason the same thing didnt happen with RT is because RT doesnt allow voting until the film actually comes out, lol DC fans actually had to wait for Black Panther to come out to sabotage in on RT

lol also on BOTH RT and IMBD, Black Panther has A way higher than normal "1" rating than all other MCU films during the same time....meaning, for some ODD reason Black Panther is Suddenly receiving Way more "1" rating than all the other MCU films...

again this clear proof of sabotaging....

you know this, your just desperate....you've given up on trying to troll on Black Panther OW....Its just simply too great....so your only option is to move to next week and claim BP is frontloaded....and your nowi using RTs clearly sabotaged score to try and troll...

but again this is going to fail Badly....Black Panther reviews are too Great, The Cultural Impact of the film is too Large....you only have to look at the recent wonder Woman to have clear Proof BP is going to have great legs....

Wonder Woman too, had Great reviews and also had A HUGE "womans movement" that resulted in the film having Excellent Legs...



I find it quite hilarious that you created A troll thread 15 days ago claiming "it would be impossible" for Black Panther to meet the dangerously high expectations set by the industry...at that time The Expectations were 100 to 120 Million...you claimed it would be impossible for Black Panther to meet those expectations and it would result in Black Panther failing to be meet those expectations and Black Panther would be a disappointment....

Funny in that thread you never said A thing about Black Panthers 2nd weekend, or being front loaded, you never said a thing about RT Score, Literally nothing, You made your standrad for Judging Black Panther very clear, You thought it would fail to make 120 Million, thats how you were judging the film...

now Black Panther not only does the "Impossible" and Meet those 120 Million expectations, but also exceeded even the largest expectations and Will make 170 Million +....and now all of a sudden, you've moved the goal posts, Now forget the fact that you clearly didnt think black panther would make 120 Million, forget the fact that Black Panther Me andt Exceeded all expectations like your predicted It WOULDNT...Now its "so what Black Panther had a good OW, but who cares its going fall apart next weekend"

the depths of your failures knows to bounds....at this point its clear, Black Panther could literally make 1.5 Billion , have the smallest drops ever and youd still find a way to move the goal posts and claim your not impressed

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Now this is truely pathetic bill...you are resorting to using a similar excuse to what DC fans used a while back when they claimed that critics were being payed to give DC movies bad reviews, now you're claiming that DC fans are sabotaging Black Panther's RT score, truly juvenile... speaking of juvenile you may want to consider taking a few grammar classes, your posts look like they were written by a 5 year old or a mentally challenged individual. Back to the matter I don't know if you're aware of this but the poster TwistedAcrobat who by the way hates the DCU largely criticised both Black Panther and Star Wars:the last Jedi and gave Black Panther a 1, so good call with DC fans sabotaging Black Panther RT score dumbass.

Bottom line is it's just matter of time before this PC and SJW propaganda drives a large number of movie goers away and thus commencing the slow downfall of the MCU and Star Wars franchise.

PS: Thanks for acknowledging that Wonder Woman a DC movie had good reviews and good legs, that must have hard for a Marvel zealot to admit.

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bill is a known troll so I wouldn't put too much stock into what he says.

Ex: "Wonder Woman too, had Great reviews and also had A HUGE "womans movement" that resulted in the film having Excellent Legs..."

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Lady_Leopard17 (12)

while Its clear your trolling here....but what the heck I'll bite for the fun of it....

first, I agree its was completely absurd when DC fans resorted to saying "Marvel had paid off critics to hate DC films and Love MCU films".....it was so SAD and the Ultimate Desperate Act....

but what makes that act so desperate is, There was Zero proof or evidence to back it up...not 1 single thing could be pointed to to even remotely suggest its true....

thats whats separates me from others posters, I LITERALLY do not say something if the facts dont back it up....So when I stated , "DC fan clearly Sabotaged Black Panthers RT score"....I can NOt make that statement if the facts dont back that up...

and what facts back that up you ask...lol

I dont know, Maybe The fact that The Leader of The Group literally announced They were going to do it and called others to join....

Maybe the fact that Black Panthers audience scores started Plummeted on Sites before the movie came out and Audiences ever seen it...

Maybe the fact that Black Panther has the lowest MCU RT Audience rating ever, despite having the highest Audience score tracked By Cinemascore...

it simply comes down to, did Audiences suddenly truly start hating MCU films 18 films deep, or is it more likely that A Group did exactly would they said and sabotaged the score on RT

if you want to buy the idea "Audiences suddenly started hating MCU films, and just Hate Black Panther"....Ok, fine, But what is the proof of that other than The ODDLY Low RT score.....every single other thing points to Audiences loving BP

Record Reviews, Record box office, Record Audience scores from cinemascore(Cinemascore is the Only true way to judge a films WOM)

were talking about a film that has gotten universally Praise and Broke records it every way possible, yet heres this extremely Low and Completely NOt normal Audience Score on RT.....

I would at least entertain the idea maybe, theres just some weird disconnect between audiences and critics, If there was 1 single thing that backed that up.

If Black Panther had A Huge collapse in box office from friday to saturday, which would hint audiences aren't liking it....If Black Panther got a Poor Cinemascore, something like a B, or B+....this would indicate audiences just arent liking the film as much as critics, but nothing like that has even remotely happened, Instead the opposite, Black Panther keep coming in higher than Projected....Panthers Cinemascore is the extremely RARE A+....only 1 other MCU movie ever has gotten an A+....everything point to Black Panther being Loved by Audiences....except this ODDLY low RT score

and a kept saying ODDLY low because.....Its so low it has to be sabotaged....no other MCU film has even gotten close to the Low Score BP got....Thor 3 came out 3 months ago and got a 88%....

it would be one thing if BPs RT was just Low, Maybe slightly off the other MCU films, I wouldnt even question or entertain the idea of Sabotaging....but The Pure way in which its PLUMMETED....literally leave no other explanation...

You can not have all other factors point to Excellent Word Of Mouth, But then have then one source completely off and not even in the same ball park....

The facts are every single piece of evidence proves sabotage....

what happens next week when Black Panther has excellent holds?.....this shouldnt happen? If the RT score is Legit and Audiences just dont like Black Panther(especially to the degree this RT score suggests)...then The film should PLUMMET in box office....

Hell it should already be PLUMMETING...If the RT score is Legit, we should already be seeing the results, again The Friday to Saturday Drop should be Massive, the cinemascore should have been BAD....

or maybe, Just Maybe, The RT score was Sabotaged by A LARGE group of DC fans Numbering in the Thousands just as the claimed!-

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https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/rotten-tomatoes-responds-to-radical-dc-fan-groups-plans-to-sabotage-black-panther-a157532....


again I dont say things not based on facts...Here are the facts-

1.https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/rotten-tomatoes-responds-to-radical-dc-fan-groups-plans-to-sabotage-black-panther-a157532

^ unlike when DC fans claimed Marvel Paid off Critics, when I said DC fans Sabotaged the RT score....lol theres actually facts behind it, because the group LITERALLY announced they were going to do it

2.Black Panthers Record box office that continues to come in higher and higher than reported, clearly indicates audiences didnt start "Hating" MCU films, it clearly indicates the ODDLY low RT score isn't matching up with facts

3. Black Panthers Cinemascore Does Not at all alien with the RT score...if the RT score was legit, we would see it in results....Instead Black Panther got The best possible score a very rare score and A+ with A 95% approval rating...this ends all debate.

4. Black Panthers RT score isn't even in the realm of other MCU scores...it would take time, and many AWFUL films in a row for Audiences to start hating MCU films has much as BPs RT score suggests...ODDLY enough, the score itself is proof its not legit....lol Its too LOW, its been sabotaged too much.



Bottom line is it's just matter of time before this PC and SJW propaganda drives a large number of movie goers away and thus commencing the slow downfall of the MCU and Star Wars franchise.

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annnnd this is where you gave yourself away....had you left this out, I may have taken you seriously....



PS: Thanks for acknowledging that Wonder Woman a DC movie had good reviews and good legs, that must have hard for a Marvel zealot to admit.

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no need to thank me, I love all comic book movies, I'm not biased I have no problems admitted anything...

can I ask you a question though...dont you think it would be ODD if given the Success Wonder Woman Success, If its RT score was ODDLY LOW



Think about it...Wonder Woman is a Universally looked as a great movie, Had Great reviews, had Great Box office results and Had Great Holds, and got a Good cinemascore/audience score....wouldnt it be ODD if there was this one thing, that just completely suggested otherwise, what If WWs RT score was 72%....Yet everything else suggested otherwise?....wouldnt that be ODD?

and it wouldnt be a weird coincidence if that one thing that was ODDLY OFF, was exactly what a Group of Thousands of Marvel fans announced and proclaimed that they were going to Sabotage?


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welp thats exactly what is happening with Black Panther....Black Panther is even more Universally Praised than Wonder Woman, Its got even Greater reviews, Its Box office is even Greater than Wonder Woman, and Its Cinemascore is cinemascore even better than Wonder Woman, yet there is just this one thing thats ODDLY way off and suggests other wise?>

and wow funny enough, the one thing that is way off is the RT score...the exact thing a Group of Thousands of DC fans announced and proclaimed that they were going to Sabotage?

hey good luck hoping for the downfall of the MCU, I remember in 2013 after BvS and The DCEU was announced, DC fans went on a rampage claiming this would be the downfall of the MCU, that no MCU film could compete against BvS and The MCU films would all flop now that the DCEU films were coming, lol Most hardcore DC fan predicted The MCU would be shut down by the end of 2016

lol it didnt work out for them but maybe this "Slow Down" fall may work out for you

oh Wait....what is the current MCU upcoming releases again?

Avengers IW---easily 1 to 1.5 Billion
Ant-Man and The Wasp-easily 600 to 700 Million
Avengers IW2---easily 1 to 1.5 Billion
Spider-Man HOmecoming 2-Easily 800 to 1 Billion
Doctor Strange 2-Easily 650 to 800 Billion
GOTG 3-Easily-850 to 1 Billion
Black Panther 2-Easily 900 to 1 Billion +

lol hey maybe after 2023 the "slow down" Will commence, until then, more MCU dominance



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Yikes. Queen, I thought you were more knowledgeable about the Box Office. What happened here?

What ' historical precedent' are you pointing to? You need to provide more information in the opening post or at the very least show how you are breaking down the weekend dailies and what kind of drops you are expecting.

These is the range extrapolated based on the preview/OW ratio of other CBMs for 3-Day.

Suicide Squad - 164M
Civil War - 181M
Justice League - 182M
Spider Man Homecoming - 191M
Thor Ragnarok - 213M
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - 217M
Doctor Strange - 228M
Logan - 234M
Wonder Woman - 237M
Deadpool - 263M

We know due to WOM and presales that are spread throughout the week, that it won't collapse as bad as Suicide Squad. Nor will it go as crazily high as the top range since it's previews are way higher and the ceiling is only so high. The safest bet is probably 180M+/CW opening weekend since it's Sunday is going to be inflated by the holiday, pre-sales are spread out throughout the weekend, it's an 'origin' movie hence it won't require having seen as many Marvel movies as it did for CW and that it's seen as a 'cultural movement'. It's getting crazy exposure atm from the media.

Honestly Queen you had weeks to downplay the box office for Black Panther leading into the previews but you choose to do so when it already started breaking records? These next few weeks are unfortunately going to be a rough time for your predictions.

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Like one analyst said..."We are in for a bumpy weekend for predictions." LOL...he got that right but the "bumps" may not be what many were expecting.

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good times

I remember when you said the exact same thing about JL....remember when JL came out, Early Friday you predicted 150 M....Then Mid day Friday, you predicted 133 M....then Late Friday you thought it would still make at least 110 to 115....

then saturday came, sites were reporting a sub 100 M OW for JL...

and you embarrassingly said this ...

"QueenFanUSA (483) 3 months ago

Everyone is waiting for Deadline's latest updates.

I have a feeling the revised numbers will not please a few of posters around here. Lol"


"Will not please a few posters"

"Not The Bump Many are expecting"

lol its the same failed statement....In both statements you trying to hint, numbers are going to come in later that is gonna Make "All Of Haters" Not Happy....

yet in both caess, you QUEEN were the one left Not happy....

in the case of JL, I shit you not, 2 hours after making this statement...Box office results come in revealing JL did in fact came in under 100 Million.....Leaving YOU "NOT PLEASED"

and Now you make this absurd statement 5 hours ago...hilariously claiming "A Bump is coming, but Its going to be a negative bump" that Will not be what we expecting....But once again Literally 2 hours after making this pathetic statement...the results come in proving, "Nope The Bump wasn't Negative or down" it was an extremely high BUMP and it was actually what WE WERE EXPECTING....Leaving You NOt happy because clearly it "wasn't what YOU were expecting"

here are said results-

Gitesh Pandya
‏ @GiteshPandya
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Sources telling me that #BlackPanther now on trajectory to reach $68-73M range for full opening day. Very upfront turnout thx to THU pre-shows. 4-day looking to get near amazing $200M mark.
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BoxOffice
‏ @BoxOffice
5h5 hours ago

Disney: Studio is currently projecting a $172M-$198M four-day weekend for BLACK PANTHER. More to come.
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Shawn Robbins
‏ @ShawnRobbinsWho
5h5 hours ago

Disney is currently projecting a $172-198M four-day weekend for BLACK PANTHER. I expect that range will climb throughout the evening and/or weekend. Holds will be strong. Still banking on $200M+. #BlackPanther #Marvel #MCU #TChalla #Wakanda #BoxOffice
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http://deadline.com/2018/02/black-panther-thursday-night-preview-box-office-1202291093/

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Lol...did you realize you just posted Gitesh Pandya commenting that Friday's numbers are very weighted by last night's previews???? In other words it's already showing signs tonight of being very frontloaded!

I.e....it's losing steam already and tomorrow should really be telling.

Oh man...you can't make this stuff up!

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lol losing steam??


it went from...172 - 198......to 185 to 213 Million.....


it got the extremely RARE "A+" cinemascore meaning Word of Mouth is overwhelmingly positive...

Its over queen....theres nothing you can do...Black panther exceeded all expectations and now with the excellent cinmascore, you cant even troll about it being front loaded or "fans dont like it".....Legs will be excellent ....

Quuen, this may be a defining movement for you....this is a rare case where a film is TROLL PROOF....if you choose to troll at this point, you basically are cutting your own throat...

theres just no reason for you to ever make predictions again if you choose to troll now...because with this specific film and its results, if you choose to Trioll, if you choose to try and somehow paint these results in a negative light, it proves you have zero credibility and it proves the results of even future films does not matter, it doesnt matter what any future film does, how successful , you'll troll...

Black Panther at this point is Troll Proof, its box office is beyond anything you,I or box office analysts could have predicted...the only thing to do at this point is to except it, if you dont, you've forfeited your right to be taken seriously at any point in the future...

why ever give a prediction ever again to any film if you know no matter How insanely successful that film could be, no matter what it does, your going to troll...

theres got to be a point where results matter, if not theres no point of giving predictions....

lol the only reason to give predictions for films is to see if your going to be right or wrong....but if you choose to desperately try and troll on Black Panther after this incredible result, you have proven, your not here to actually give REAL predictions, Your not here to see if you actually were right or wrong, your just here to no matter what the result, no matter how low or high the box office result is, your just here to Troll...

you predicted Black Panther to make 125 million as of yesterday.....Its going to make for sure at least 186 Million....

you predicted JL to make 150 Million the friday it opened....it ended up making 94 Million ....

These 2 results, pretty much make it pointless for you to ever give predictions again...because the point of predictions are based on results, to see if you were right or wrong based on the results

but in both cases, the results did not matter to you....with JL, It literally came in LOWER than anyone could have imagined, Everyone universally agrees, JL was A HUGE disaster and massive disappoint, JL came no near your predictions...yet you relentlessly defend the movie,box office and results

Black Panther has now came in HIGHER than anyone could have imagined, everyone universally agrees the film is a success beyond anyones imagination, BP came nowhere near your Low 125 Million prediction...Yet here you are trying to spin the result in a negative light...

there has to be a point where RESULTS MATTER queen...or there is no reason to give predictions....I could maybe possibly understand if the results where somewhat higher for JL or somewhat lower for BP....if BP made 140 M and JL made 120 M....you could then maybe Troll...

but with these 2 particular movies, you have extreme results on opposite ends of the spectrum...You have Black Panther Succeeding beyond all expectations, you have JL failing beyond all expectations, and in the end the results mean nothing to you....

theres no where to go for you at this point....theres no reason to give future prediction or ever talk box office again queen, because you've proven the results dont matter to you...

it does not matter how insanely successful a film is, how much it completely exceeds expectations, there never going to be a point where you except the results....whatever your stance is before the film opens, its going to be exactly the same after it opens

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Queen, we understand. If Black panther doesn't hit $212 million for the 4 day weekend you will declare VICTORY.. The analysts and Disney were wrong and the film failed to meet expectations.

All that matters is if Disney doesn't accurately predict the top number for you. You just want to show that Disney is not infallible.

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did you realize you just posted Gitesh Pandya commenting that Friday's numbers are very weighted by last night's previews???? In other words it's already showing signs tonight of being very frontloaded!

I.e....it's losing steam already and tomorrow should really be telling.

Oh man...you can't make this stuff up!

^^^

also queen, does anything stick out about BP results so far to you?

considering your "Losing Steam" comment, I think something should stick out?

no...let me explain...

Late thursday it was report BP made 22 Million from Late Night Screening.....Yet when the numbers came in...they went up to 25.2 M

yesterday it was reported BP was going to make 68 to 73 Million On Friday...Yet When the numbers came in, they went up to 75 Million...

BP isn't losing steam....Its literally coming in consistently Higher than whats being reported....This is usually seen with films with excellent WOM....the results just keep coming in higher than expected


but seriously nice try on "Losing steam"....it would have been a good one if Literally the exact opposite wasnt happening!

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"I still peg it under 125 million for the 3-day."

Wrong again Queenie! $76m Friday, sure to be twice that by Sunday.

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Only $192 weekend. Will beat Justice Plauge's total on Tuesday!

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Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $75,808,000 61.7%
+ Foreign: $47,000,000 38.3%
= Worldwide: $122,808,000

In Release: 1 days / 0.1 weeks

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Queen it looks like you were a bit off......

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Yeah, but just a little bit...

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Ha, ha, ha, frontloaded? They wouldn't know what frontloaded is even if it hits them in the face...

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Got frontloaded?

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[–] Bubbathegut (3232) 10 minutes ago
Got frontloaded?
Remember what you said about liking women that were Frontloaded?

They have No Legs!!!!!!

Not that there is anything wrong with that mind you.

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Oh yeah, I assume she would always be falling forwards for some reason.

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