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So Those of You Who Like This Movie


Aren't of the opinion that to star in a musical you should actually be able to sing? How very sad, indeed!

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kirx you have a very narrow view of things. There are many "musicals" with actors who don't sing very well. Think Crowe in "Les Mis" or Brosnan in "Mamma Mia!", just to name a couple. There are many more examples.

This "Annie" is distinctly different from the prior popular Annie movies, I suspect you noticed that. The mature viewers appreciate a movie for what it is, instead of looking for ways to discredit for what it is not, as you are doing here.

I enjoyed this version of Annie, it will never go down as one of my favorite movies but there is nothing wrong with the singing, it is adequate and that is all they were shooting for.

NB - And please, don't anyone try to bring in "autotune". Virtually every singer nowadays has their voice autotuned after a recording session, even some of the biggest stars. If you think it is that big a negative then you'll probably never listed to recorded vocals again.

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And I hated both of those musicals that you gave as examples. Pretty much the entire cast of MAMA MIA sang like crap. Les Miserables at least had a few lesser known Broadway actors to balance out the Hollywood leads who were hired for their name and not their atrocious vocals. No, Q. Wallis is not even an adequate singer, so I don't understand why they cast her as the lead, and did you hear Foxx sing the National Anthem without the benefit of studio clean up? I won't even get into Cameron Diaz.

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No I didn't hear Foxx sing the Anthem but he is an accomplished musician, a singer and pianist who did his own playing and singing in the Ray Charles bio. So I suspect you are very wrong about his lack of singing ability.

Again, to me (I am a musician and a singer, not professionally) all the singing is adequate, people who watched the movie to enjoy the story and the characters don't get quite as upset as you seem to be over the lack of better singers.

When I see a live show onstage I expect the singers to be exceptional, but I don't expect that in a children's movie like this one. If a singer happens to be exceptional (like Victor Garber is as Warbucks in the 1999 TV version of Annie) then to me that is just a nice bonus.

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So you just proved my point that the actors cast in these movies don't need to be good singers.

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You have backtracked from 'not able to sing' to 'not a good singer'.
I have lived on stage performing music for years and I enjoy the music and singing in Annie. I also understand that everyone is entitled to their opinions about music regardless of the years spent at the woodshed and that the overall critique of all music will be diverse and that is OK by me. I really liked it you didn't.

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Well, if you're not a good singer you don't have much--if any--singing ability, so I don't see how I backtracked, but whatever.

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OK

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Music and "good voices" are really unique to the individual. I notice there's a strong relationship between a person's age/the type of music that the person grew up listening to, and music and voices deemed enjoyable. My mother and I only agree at about 50% about who can and can't sing. Often times voices I like, she doesn't. And vice versa. I've also noticed that some of the singers younger people (<22) think have great voices, to me sound like karaoke singers. It's all relative.

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So you just proved my point that the actors cast in these movies don't need to be good singers.


That wasn't your point. To paraphrase. Musicals should have a star actor that can sing. As it was pointed out. Other musicals used star actors that couldn't sing. As a matter fact, this film had actors that sang and/or have musical talent. Foxx, Cannavalli and Eden Duncan Smith being three of them.


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Yes, they should, which is why many of the current Hollywood musicals produced suck and the ones that don't, like THE LAST FIVE YEARS, are virtually ignored.

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"kirx you have a very narrow view of things. There are many "musicals" with actors who don't sing very well. Think Crowe in "Les Mis" or Brosnan in "Mamma Mia!", just to name a couple. There are many more examples. "

AND Depp and Carter in Sweeney Todd, and as you said sadly more examples of this as well.

But all those were just as Hollywood wrong as this new bad singing Annie. Hollywood should NOT be allowed to destroy musicals like this with poor musician acting only stars.

Speaking of Les Mis, little miss princess diaries girl ruined Fontine for me too. Her song before she died should have been SUNG all the way through. If you listen to the original song her moments before death are sung with such passion and beauty. When she starts gasping for air vying for oscar performance, it was terrible.



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Thank you! Yet people were saying she should have been cast as Maria on SoML over Carrie Underwood. Imagine if Anne Hathaway had to sing live?! Yikes!

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Absolutely no one can sing in Grease, except for Olivia Newton John and MAYBE the guy who sings Beauty School Dropout. And to be honest, he kinda sounds like he's talking over the melody. Yet Grease is one of the most popular and enjoyable musicals.

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True, but if you didn't realize, the original stage production of GREASE was completely reworked to provide a vehicle for ONJ and John Travolta. Pretty much the entire supporting characters had their songs cut.

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and MAYBE the guy who sings Beauty School Dropout.


Oh, you mean Frankie Avalon, a PROFESSIONAL singer? OK, so maybe he's not your cup of tea, but if you're not familiar with who he is, perhaps you should do a little research.

As to the rest? John Travolta while not great, has sung in several films and could have been worse. Neither were any of them really. I actually kind of liked Jeff Conway in the Grease Lightning segment (but I've always kind of been a fan of his, and miss him. It was sad what happened to him). Then there's Stockard Channing and I've always liked her voice, and adored her as Rizzo.

I've seen the on stage (non-Broadway) production of Grease. I didn't like it. Probably because I did grow up on the movie and was expecting it to be a replica of that with the same structure and scenes and it wasn't. I liked parts of it, but overall, the movie will remain in my heart as the best.


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Everyone in rhe film Rent to name another. Mostly everyone in Sweeney Todd (the one with Depp). Oh, and the Angela Lansbury version of Pirates of Penzance.

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I'm sorry, but could you clarify what you saying about these films you mention?

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Ha! The movies The Sound of Music, West Side Story and My Fair Lady had stars who COMPLETELY did NOT sing their parts.


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I am aware, but at least back then filmmakers realized that singing ability was actually important for a musical, which is why those whose vocals weren't up to par were dubbed. Again, thanks for proving my point.

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Ha!  That doesn't follow logically! If some producers, both then and now, used whatever methods/technology available to them to bring the vocal quality up to par, it disproves the precept that "...to star in a musical you should actually be able to sing..."

Now if you are just unhappy with the respective methods...


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Dubbing is not technology, it just means the person is a pathetic singer. My original point was that the vocals in this movie were horrendous, so if you actually enjoyed it, that's sad.

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Ha! Yeah...if you think dubbing is not "technology", THAT is sad 

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Not technology in the sense of processing a person's voice to make him or her sound like a passable singer. With dubbing, the actor can't claim the vocal in any way.

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My wife and I really loved the movie; we introduced it to our adult daughter who likewise loved the movie. Perhaps you and others don't understand how folks could like such a musical but you may be asking the wrong question.

I don't like musicals. My wife doesn't either (though our daughter really, really does). We weren't watching it as a musical; we were watching it as a movie that had some songs. We weren't emotionally tied to the original musical in any way. We were viewing it as modern day kids' story that was well done and just a lot of fun. And I was quite happy that the songs were kept short. I don't enjoy musicals usually.

Perhaps we could get into autotune discussions, but I didn't find the singing objectionable (and I'm usually one to question how a lot of pop singers every made it).

My daughter really enjoyed how the music was often interwoven into the story, like the jackhammer at the start serving as percussion to the opening theme. And a lot of the songs were done in a fun way, like it was a kids' movie, not a more formal musical for adults to scrutinize.

So if you're looking for a fun kids' movie, I highly recommend it and would say the music dovetailed nicely with the story. But that's probably not what you were looking for.

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That's right, I watched it as a musical, because it's a musical.

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That's right, I watched it as a musical, because it's a musical.

That's how it should be, and with all that Hollywood money find some better singers!
You know who would have KILLED at Miss Hannigan? Idina Menzel! At least she can act but also more importantly SING!
Kids are still singing Let it Go!
Are they singing autotune Annie and buying little black Annie Dolls?
Actually IS there any black Annie Dolls? I never saw any.
while Elsa continues to rule!
lmfao

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