so then why are they all designed after their G1 selves?
Many of the characters in
Transformers: Animated are designed based on interpretations of their G1 appearances. Doesn't mean anything in regards to continuity.
take Soundwave for example, so he went from looking like a cybertronian version of his G1 design in these two games to suddenly looking completely different like he does in Prime?
Disregarding the fact that artistic licence is very much in play, the games and Prime do take place millions and millions of years apart. About 70, to be exact, considering Shockwave was able to observe live Dinosaurs on Earth, which immediately puts the idea of it sharing continuity with G1 right out. The idea that characters could have altered appearances within such a space of time is not only plausible, but considering this is Transformers, a guarantee.
Transformers: Energon takes place 10 years after
Transformers: Armada and PLENTY of the returning characters end up looking entirely different from their previous designs without an in-story reason (Optimus, Hot Shot, Jetfire), and that's only a 10-year difference as opposed to millions.
and what about Bumblebee....he goes from a cybertronian version of his G1 design to looking like a less detailed and more cartoony version of the live action movies?
And has lost his voice in-between the events of the first and second game, just like what happened to
Prime Bumblebee, you're forgetting that.
and then there's Megatron, now i havent seen season 2 of Prime yet so if thats answered there feel free to mention/correct me. but he looks very similar to the live action design from the first two movies and if they go by those movies story, he never took an earthbound form so what we see IS his cybertronian mode. why doesnt he look anything like the game design or vice versa?
I'm sorry, but you do realise you're talking about a game where Megatron not only ends up getting a new body after being rebuilt, but also one that is more aesthetically closer to his
Prime appearance than his previous body (bigger and bulkier in appearance, spikes as part of his armour, and although still a tank, his alt mode ends up looking much closer to his jet form in
Prime than it did in the last game). And for your last question, it actually has been stated that this universe's version of Megatron has gone through a lot of bodies and forms, whilst still keeping himself from taking on Earth form.
but as i said, back when the first game came out they said it was a G1 prequel. of course a lot of things wont match or even contradict but thats what happens with just about any prequel since its always created after the fact.
Sorry, but you're dead wrong there. It never was, never has been a G1 prequel. And I'm amazed people still don't know that after over two years.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Myths#Prime_2And no, it doesn't happen with "just about any prequel". Since the idea of a good prequel and something that all the best prequels do manage, with exceptions, is to MAKE it match, not outright make it entirely different. Otherwise, and this is indeed the case with WFC/FOC, they are not prequels, they are part of a new continuity.
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BouncyX
12 years ago
regarding the G1/Prime connection....turns out we're both right. i looked it up and there was an original statement claiming it was a G1 prequel that was released by "accident" to many sites and whatnot apparently. but they eventually sent out a correction saying it was a Prime prequel. so i obviously saw that original release and never read about the correction. so thats that.
but that still makes everything i said stick out even more. there's a difference between designs inspired by and a direct connection. i mean along with Soundwave, Starscream is another one who looks very similar to the G1 design. down to the body design in robot form, color scheme and he even has the same exact head.
and sure, maybe the 3rd game will all connect that directly and have explanations but that still begs why bother making them look soooo similar to G1. its one thing to have nods like some of the dialogue but to go as far as designing them to look so similar? and then ending the game with The Touch (both a new mix and then the original version from 86) which is pretty much the theme of the G1 universe?
makes no sense. they were better off just making this a seperate universe. if they wanted a prequel to Prime they have the show to tell that. and if they really wanted to do it in videogame form, then why not make it obviously Prime related instead of being so heavy in G1.
but you sorta contradicted yourself.....you said both games aren't prequels but they are. thats been the whole point of our "argument", saying which universe they were a prequel to. :P
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Clifford_Starfox
12 years ago
but that still makes everything i said stick out even more. there's a difference between designs inspired by and a direct connection.
If you actually bothered to take my point into account in my last post about the fact that Transformers can drastically change appearances and still be part of one continuity, no it does not. That and artistic license being a factor. Besides which, physical appearance is not what counts here. The backstories and histories of the characters is. And those of the WFC/FOC cast are virtually nothing like the G1 counterparts beyond a few personality traits. Now, comparing
Prime however, the backstories do indeed match up.
And yes, there is a difference between "inspired by" and "direct connection". You don't seem to realise that WFC/FOC falls into the former category though.
and sure, maybe the 3rd game will all connect that directly and have explanations
For the record, they are in the process of producing a comic series that is supposed to show what happens to the Dinobots inbetween the events of the game and TV series, as it happens.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Prime:_Rage_of_the_DinobotsThey've already connected it directly though, on a number of factors.
its one thing to have nods like some of the dialogue but to go as far as designing them to look so similar? and then ending the game with The Touch (both a new mix and then the original version from 86) which is pretty much the theme of the G1 universe?
makes no sense.
It's called homaging. And I don't see what the confusion is, considering every form of pop culture does it.
they were better off just making this a seperate universe.
That's exactly what they did do when they made WFC. Only said universe ended up including
Prime as well.
if they wanted a prequel to Prime they have the show to tell that.
Because the show is set on modern day Earth. There's only so much you can do in flashback form.
but you sorta contradicted yourself.....you said both games aren't prequels but they are.
To G1, they aren't. I didn't contradict myself at all.
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