even though aylin and blake probably deserve to win.
michael and lily should NOT have gone home. this was probably lilys best week. she was amazing in the trailer, and it was her best last chance performance.
ally should have gone. i dont get it.
What you are not giving enough weight, I think< is that Lily's first impulse was to "make the scene about Lily." The craft of acting is about harnessing emotion, not summoning it up and letting it control you.
Lily's job, in her bit, was to provide a specific line reference (the title of the "movie") and she could not do the job (at least not at first). Ryan Murphy was correct inasmuch that Ali did not rise to the challenge (who said her character had to be all that forgiving...she made the safer and weaker acting choice).
Lily simply is a selfish performer. She has tons of talent and is a great singer and will likely become a wonderful actor.....but she isn't ready.
Michael was likely sent packing because, as much as he grew in skill, he still lacks polish and a performer and, personality wise, I see no place for the writers to take him. He fits no archetype or counter-archetype.
I think Lily was sent home because she is basically Mercedes... Shes the pretty, sassy, chubby girl with the booming voice. That is all they saw of her... at least with Ali she differs from Artie because she is a she, and they can do different story lines pertaining to a girl in a wheelchair rather then a guy. The writers/creators are going by whats going to be easier for them to write for rather then their acting/singing ability and making a character for them... they even said on the show who can we see writing a character about, they should have said who has the best talent we can create a character for...
I think the downfall of the writers is that they aren't making up characters they are writing these real life people into the script they arent seeing beyond their personalities. Acting is not about being yourself (for the most part) it is about being someone else.
^This.
Technically Ryan should be able to write a character based on more than their appearance but in practice, he can't (or at least, won't). In season 2 they had two overweight girls; the pretty one (Mercedes) and the masculine one (Zizes). I think that's as far as Ryan is willing to think, Lily could never be anything to him that wasn't based on her weight.
"Bigotry wrapped in prayer is still bigotry"
Lily never got to the line he wanted because he kept interrupting. Let them do the scene and then cut it down later if its too long. All this time they have been telling her that they wanted to see a more sensitive and vulnerable side to her, and she was showing it to them.
I agree about Michael. Actually he should have been cut a few weeks earlier, but I think they kept him because they only had two boys left.
- Tim
That is a ridiculous comment. They were ad libbing and Ali just couldn't do it. She couldn't bring the conversation over to what was important for her character. Ali didn't do the work and I hated how the mentors blamed Lily because Ali wasn't good enough. You could tell she couldn't as lib because not only was she hardly in the trailer but everything she said sounded stilted and forced. It's TOTALLY unfair to blame Lily because Ali couldn't keep up with her. At least Ryan acknowledged that Ali is responsible for doing her own work.
And I like Lily. I think she is really honest and open and real. I don't like Aylin because I don't think she can act, her voice is good but not the best and there is nothing special about her. I grew up around a large muslim community and she is pretty much par for the course.
I never used to like Ali but on the last episode she grew on me. I still think that the mentors praise her for just doing the same level of work as everyone else while everyone else gets criticized, but I think she is really sweet and likable.
Ali is a sweet and nice girl but if she wasnt in that wheel chair she would be gone already, just like Shanna they would of considered her another pretty blond bubble gum princess
shareIrishASP- I totally agree. I think what ruined Shanna (in Ryan's opinion) was her conventionality. Ali would be in the same boat if it weren't for the wheelchair - she's sweet and pretty, but the chair is what's keeping her around. Which is sad. So much for looking past people's disabilities/ physical appearance.
"Bigotry wrapped in prayer is still bigotry"
For me I think Shanna went home because she had never been in the bottom 3 before and Ryan had a relationship with the other 2 who were with her. He didn't know her and she never got any feed back from him about what he wanted. For me that's why she was sent home. It still boggles my mind she was sent home before Micheal. I do like Micheal as a person but I just plain don't like his voice and even though he got better and better, at the time Shanna was sent home she was light years ahead of him. I don't think Shanna is really conventional. She can from a broken home, raised by her grandparents, mother was into drugs etc. She had that southern steal magnolia thing going on. But Ryan just saw a bubblegum southern girl in her one shot in the bottom and never saw how she really is.
I think Ali has one of the best voices but I really annoys me that she isn't held to the same standard as everyone else. And I don't think it's her. She is never like, no I can't do it, but the mentors praised her for taking one slushy when other people were criticized with their facial expressions when they were getting pelted with them. That's just not right.
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I understand what you mean (Lily does have a nasty habit of trying to silence others) but for me that's a lot of what show-business is. The biggest acts are also likely the ones most willing to step on others to get to the top. In that way I believe Lily has much more show-biz potential than Ali.
"Bigotry wrapped in prayer is still bigotry"
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Being an agressive or a demanding performer is fine (it is a difficult road, but nevertheless a valid choice), the real issue here is that Lily, in the part we saw, was completely unable to deliver what the "bit" needed (the set up for the title).
Could Ali have done more? Absolutely. And Ryan Murphy was critical of that as well.
From what I could see, the only actors in the competition were Blake and Charlie. Everyone else? They were performers. And that is exactly why Ryan Murphy is looking for "inspiration." He is looking for a performer he can create a role around. Hiring actors to play the parts the Samuel Larsen, Damien McGinty and Alex Newell are playing would have certainly ended up with a better outcome, but the show caught lightning in a bottle with Chris Colfer. Whatever you think of him or is talent or ability, there was no one like him on tv.
The producers are looking to capture that lightning again...and have so far not succeeded.
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