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Someone explain the belt scene please??


The scene where Watanabe rushes into the cabin, kicks Louis's bed, then pushes him and just starts hitting him with a belt. Every time I watch the movie I just find that scene so crazy. Did Watanabe just lose it? Have I missed something? Was there a specific reason as to why he barged in and began hitting him? Or did he just feel like hitting Louis that morning and only him? -.-
It was so cruel (as were many other scenes yes). I love this movie and am really curious as to what the reason was behind that incident.. Any ideas?

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The next scenes dealt with the radio broadcast. I can only assume Watanabe wasn't a fan of Zamperini getting preferential treatment as a possible propaganda pawn, since he would have been the first to know it was going to be occurring and told the day prior to the transfer. But maybe someone has a better or more informed response.

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That actually makes quite a lot of sense~ I'm surprised that idea never came to my head.. Good point! Thanks for posting!

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According to Laura Hillabrand's book, it seems that The Bird beat Louis every day of his imprisonment, unless Louis could somehow avoid him. Apparently, The Bird would beat prisoners severely, but in some cases he would then become rather tender, nursing their wounds. In the belt scene, he offers Louis his handkerchief to staunch the blood.

What was missing in the portrayal of The Bird in this movie was his domination over the other guards AND officers. I did not get the sense that he was as much a figure of menace as I imagined he was when I read the book.

The treatment of prisoners generally improved with the departure of The Bird because some guards felt free to behave humanely towards them.

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Wow.. harsh and brutal. Though of course makes sense in this circumstance. He was rather intimidating in the movie but you're right- perhaps a bit more supreme over the others would have linked very nicely to his cruel behaviour.
Thanks for posting. Looks like I should get my hand on this book

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What was missing in the portrayal of The Bird in this movie was his domination over the other guards AND officers. I did not get the sense that he was as much a figure of menace as I imagined he was when I read the book.

The treatment of prisoners generally improved with the departure of The Bird because some guards felt free to behave humanely towards them.



where did you hear that and why do you think that wasnt shown?










Look like Tarzan talk like Jane! HAHA

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Good points ^^

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Enjoyed the film but I have a few questions and I was wondering if anyone could answer them?

1. Why did Mac die but Phil and Louie survive?
2. Why did the Japanese keep so many prisoners that they had no use for? Why not just kill them?
3. So when they are all in the river and the american plane flies over head signalling that they've won the war, why don't the Japanese kill them like Fitzgerald said they would? And then the Japanese just seemingly run away?

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Meant to post this as an original topic, ignore me

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1.it's 2-3 years back since I read book, but Mac engaged in acts of heroism during crisis involving sharks or other things, ostensibly in an effort to redeem his disgrace regarding the survival chocolate when they first land.(Their crash itself may also have been his screw-up, if he was the flight-engineer,-I cannot recall if he was FE or Nav on the flight-- as a hasty mistake by the flight engineer when they lost one engine, actually took a manageable one-engine failure and doubled it by feathering a good engine instead of the failed engine...by time that error could be corrected, they were already virtually in the sea)

anyway, his acts of heroism basically shortened his own potential capacity to survive, compared to theirs.

None of this was explained in book, agreed.

they were also not ever picked up from their rafts by the Japanese navy...they eventually simply ran into the Marshalls?? Marianas?? island group, whichever one Kwajalein /Makin are part of, and washed ashore.

Initially, by the small garrison on outlying island, they were treated very well by a small party of Japanese.
When they were transferred to principle base island amongst larger Japanese garrison, that changed dramatically.
Then of course, ultimately, they were shipped to Japan itself.As happened to many prisoners during course of war.

2. Because in theory, everyone takes prisoners, and cares for them to some limited extent, not even the Japanese simply killed all prisoners. And prisoners can be of use to captors, even the movie shows how. Work, interrogation, and propaganda stunts.
No modern power that I know of, simply kills people they capture. Not the Japanese, not even on the Eastern Front WW2 Germans vs Soviets, and not even the Talliban and other muslim savages such as ISIL that we are fighting today.

3. the whole scene was BS, there was never any intention to kill prisoners AFTER surrender. For one thing, there was no plan what to do after surrender, because there was no plan in advance to ever surrender.
What there WAS, and the stupid simple-minded movie fudged and distorted this, was a plan to KILL ALL PRISONERS WHEN ALLIES MAKE (ANTICIPATED) LANDINGS IN JAPAN MAIN ISLANDS.
Immediately reports came that Allies were ashore and established in Kyushu,with the war still ON-- THEN the Prisoners were all to be flushed.

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@DeadFantasy Just a thought about the belt scene: it reminded me of a scene from Schindler's List.

Amon Göth has a one-way conversation with his maid Helen, then finally says, "You nearly talked me into it, didn't you?" and beats her. Watanabe asks Zamperini, "Why do you make me hit you?" and beats him.

So both characters like to blame their victim, even though they didn't do anything wrong. Maybe it's so that they don't have to admit to themselves that they're evil.

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That's a very interesting similarity and a nice point risen. Thank you for sharing that!

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Louis did provoked him, it was just that he did it earlier in the scene where he looked him in the eye.

You can think of it as delayed additional punishment.

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@Augustus_Octavian Louis did provoked him, it was just that he did it earlier in the scene where he looked him in the eye.
Yes, and he was punished for it. The additional punishment was for no reason other than Watanabe felt like it.

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Delayed additional punishment. Sometimes after considering it, you revisit the same issue.

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May have likely been more than one reason for it then.

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Considering how gay the actor looked in the movie, I would say he just finished taking it to task, thinking about Zamperini and then felt sick with disgust and guilt over it. He then projected those feelings towards Louis, which resulted in him losing his cool and beating Zamperini for the cause of having those taboo feelings. Close or no cigar?

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