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I loved this movie, but, I'll be honest...


...Dominik was a spoiled brat! The only reason he got on "Suicide Room" was because that *beep* he made out with posted online how he cummed on his uniform! Then, all of a sudden he hates life? What the F!?!?!? And then, it seemed like Sylvia was encouraging him to kill himself! He handled the situation with that guy he kissed very dramatically. But, again, I really loved the movie. His acting was incredible and oscar worthy!

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Yes. I love this movie too, though it depressed me quite terribly for about a month.

Dominik handled the situation terribly? Did he cum? I though he just got hard. Anyway, if he just went to school and laughed it off, said the dude was rubbing on him or something they would have let it go. They had just made out and the whole school though it was funny and hot. His reaction was weakness and they all jumped on it. He was just not used to not getting his way or having things work themselves out for him.

Weird how he feel for the girl after sort of becoming gay (bi I guess).

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Really, public humiliation can affect anyone in different ways, but I'd agree that this would be a rare situation to lead him to his death.

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I watched the movie again and apparently he did cum in his pants.....that's a little bit harder to laugh off. I still think he overreacted a bit and made them teasing him a lot easier. But at the end of it all he was weak, he needed to have someone guide him and picked a messed up girl who hadn't left her house in three YEARS to do so. He was a fool to fall for her, look how she treated her previous "love" who she made the Suicide Room with. And she was complete BS with the dying crap. She manipulated him so badly and he's dead now.

His parents sucked too. They decided to do the one thing that could have saved him (cutting off the internet) way too late when he had grown attached. A week of not leaving the room and I would have cut that crap off. After awhile they would have found out what happened and paid for him to go to school else where.

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For a while, I kept thinking Dominick is straight too, but now I think he's gay (or at least bi). The only girl he was really interested in was Sylwia and that was probably because of the whole depression and suicidal thing. During that first karate scene, he looks quite intensely at Alex- I think Dominick had a bit of a crush on him before everything went to hell...

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Yeah, Alex was confusing as hell. Is it just me or was he kind of flirting before the whole kissing incident? When he first walks up (hard to tell with subtitles) but isn't it Alex calling Dominik his prince when he approaches (as Dominik is on a laptop) or the other way around?

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@ aetherakoko:

Yes! Great observation- I think he might have said that jokingly (maybe a group injoke?) though... although maybe he wasn't fully joking lol.

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I felt like it was supposed to tie in to Dominik's feelings for him. There were so many little things that could have passed for flirting. Then after the kiss I'm not sure why Alex was being so flirty about it! It wasn't in front of anyone. He was touching him and blowing kisses, stuff that maybe would have made sense as a joke with their friends around, but no one saw. Of course he could have been playing entirely, but I can see how Dominik would get confused. I just always felt that Alex was that one foot out of the closet type and just mean. I know it's a movie but I wonder if his "friends" gave a crap that he died.

Also, just to make it clear the "my" prince is what made that interesting. It wasn't like he was just called prince, like they had some weird game of royalty house going on. He claimed saying that Dominik was a prince to him, but again, subtitles.

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I think Alex may have continued the fake flirting thing with Dominik because he was egged on by the sudden attention he and Dominik were receiving after everyone watched the clip of their kiss at the prom or whatever. I do know that boys do this kind of faux flirtation thing and it means nothing at all. My sister's fiance does that kind of 'my husband/lover' joke with his best friends and it's become an in-joke in their group.

I do wonder if Alex was some kind of closet gay, though. You know, the type that only comes out of the closet when they're in their late 20s to early 30s and feel guilty about picking on the gay kids back in high school. Another possibility is that he was aware that Dominik had a bit of a crush on him and was teasing him about his feelings- recall Alex's reactions after Dominik embarrasses himself in the second karate scene...

It did seem he and Dominik's cruel 'friends' wouldn't have cared if he died, but I think most of them would probably feel guilty sometime later in their lives (unless they were truly sociopaths).

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I think the speculation on his sexuality is pretty irrelevant. While I'm sure his confusion was some of his problems, too, that wasn't the main deal.

While I agree that he was wealthy, that doesn't mean anything. Sure, to someone who doesn't have everything (me included), you'd think it would do a lot, but it doesn't. If you paid any attention at all you might actually notice that he didn't have a single person. Alex wasn't really a good friend, just someone that was around occasionally (he's almost always seen with his "skate group," or whatever you'd call them), and the only tie that Dominik had with him emotionally was the "flirting," which was most likely part joke AND part truth (I've had friendships with guys in classes, regardless of sexuality, that were built on that weird kind of joking-flirting, but I never took it to heart because I didn't really care).

And his other friends weren't around at all, either. They just hung out with him a couple times it seemed. We've all had "friends" that we've just been friends with because of a class or school and then after that year the friendships dissipated? That's probably what most of his relationships were. His mother and father were gone 99% of the time, and the only person who was around him for any period of time was his driver, who was in a fowl mood and treated him as a chore (yeah, it's his job, but you don't do your job with a *beep* attitude).

It's not hard at all to tell why Dominik felt so alone. Which led to a lot of insecurities, too. At some point during the psychiatrist part, the guy says, "He can't handle reality," and he couldn't. Then we have Sylvia (if you look on the tomb stone, her name is spelled with a V not a W as the captions would suggest), who was, admittedly, *beep* up too. The guy that she built the SR [Suicide Room] with had a good point when he was talking, but he attacked them the same way and for the same things that Dominik's parents first attacked him for. The people in the SR were, especially if that guy was telling the truth, different. You can talk all the *beep* you want about "just getting over it," but if you feel alone you FEEL ALONE. I've definitely been there.

Dominik didn't want to die, he just wanted attention, and that's not a bad thing. Everyone in his life either made fun of him or treated him like he was invisible. You can say it was all light-hearted fun, and that the kids would've shrugged it off, but I think if you have that opinion you're way out of touch with kids these days. Especially knowing that from personal experience. When you're already somewhat depressed and hurt and then you have *beep* happen like that, it can really just drag you down. Really badly.

Sorry if I sound stand-offish, I just hate watching films where the character goes through depression and things, and they just get DOGGED on by people who don't understand what it's like. If you're interested in something similar (along the lines of depression and really moving stuff), I'd suggest Rid Of Me. It pretty much highlights what happens in depression, if you don't mind the low budget-ness of it all. It's a very good movie.

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I agree with you that Dominik didnt really want to die; he just wanted the pain to stop and didn't know how it would stop, or if it would ever stop hurting.

The sadness and fragmented relationships in his life meant nothing when he needed to be loved and cared for.

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these things happen. Tyler Clementi commited suicide over his roommate and a few others that saw him kiss another male through a webcam. You might think he was over reacting but coming out is hard as it is for some people and as soon as they do, its their most vulnerable state so anything negative hits them harder than you think.

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This movie was not about gaybashing. At all. This movie was about a kid who was left on his own by everyone around him. When his fragile school 'popularity' fell apart due to the pseudo gay moment, he had no one left. THIS is what happens when you have kids as accessories. When they get in the way, you just ignore them, hire someone else to caretake them and keep them out of your way, then trot them out when you want to show off your accessory. If they get too rambunctious and inconvenient, drug them. I know too many parents like this. Things are always everyone else's fault, even their kid's, never theirs. If you have kids, your life is about THEM. If you don't like that, DON'T HAVE KIDS.
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I think Dominik had a lot more issues than just struggling with his sexuality although I think that was a part of his depression. I think Aleks and Dominik both probably had feelings for eachother but remember, this is set in Poland, not the most homosexual-friendly country around! Filled with many closet-cases! I don't think Dominik was even bi, I think he just liked Sylwia(I'll spell it with a W as V doesn't exist in the Polish language) as a friend because he felt like he was close with someone for once.
It's sad though, I really liked Dominik's character before the whole depression thing kicked in....I absolutely hated Sylwia.

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Sylwia was like Dominik only more broken (if you think that she wasnt lying about 3 years then its understable). She also wanted attention so she manipulated people. But how much it was playing around from her part and how much real (not her free/not corrupted will)... im not sure

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