Who decided that the death camp look was good for models? - Girl Model (2012) Discussion

[–] cldne2000 11 years ago

Probably the queer fashion designers who run these shows like Next Top Model. Obviously they hate women and use these opportunities to abuse them, the girls buy into their bulls### whole-heartedly, starving themselves to near fatal conditions.

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[–] cookiela2001 11 years ago

<< Probably the queer fashion designers who run these shows like Next Top Model. Obviously they hate women and use these opportunities to abuse them.... >>

That's such a weird, old stereotype. Maybe you've never noticed that gay men tend to get along better with women socially than straight men do?

If you're wondering who "hates women," why don't you look within your own camp, at heterosexual men? They're the ones who abuse, beat, kidnap and rape women...not gay men.

I mean, GET A CLUE, @sshole.
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[–] Niffiwan 11 years ago

Heterosexual men were more dominant in Western society in the past than they are today. Also in the past, a more well-rounded (i.e. Marylin Monroe) or even Rubenesque look was more popular in modeling. And it is still more popular in other very patriarchal societies today (such as the Middle East).

This leads me to think that the rags-and-bones look may not be primarily driven by the tastes of heterosexual men, but by the women themselves. After all, the primary consumers of fashion magazines and shows are women, not men.

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[–] slytherngirl 11 years ago

none of these girls looked malnourished to me, they are just thin. criticizing someone for being skinny is just as cruel as criticizing them for being fat.they are real people and comments about their body types not being attractive is hurtful. these body types are preferred in the industry because youth is preferred and their shapeless body types make them look young.

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[–] DisturbedPixie 11 years ago

That's completely ridiculous. Gay men don't hate women, if anything they usually feel more connected to women emotionally. Gay men are attacked because they are considered feminine. Being feminine is something many straight men think is a bad thing or at least less than masculinity.

You know nothing about gay culture.

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[–] henrimaine 11 years ago

That is a mystery. For some reason, this look is desirable in the fashion world. I've heard people say that big-shot fashion designers are the ones who have created that ideal, but I'm sure that the designers themselves would point their finger on something/somebody else.

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[–] bella-bellini 11 years ago

People in the fashion industry frequently describe models as walking hangers. Tall, skinny models show off the clothes better on the runway and in photos.

Our culture is obsessed with youth. I think the fashion industry intensifies this obsession. But it also holds up a mirror of what we crave.

xo Bella Bellini
Sweet & Twisted

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[–] schwatime 11 years ago

People in the fashion industry frequently describe models as walking hangers. Tall, skinny models show off the clothes better on the runway and in photos.

I've heard that explanation a million times, and I don't buy it. When you're selling a product you generally want not just the product to look good, but the surroundings. In this case the model is a close part of the surroundings, and the drug-addicted, bored, starving, flat-chested, brain-eating zombie models aren't attractive. (And I don't understand why a "hanger" would show off clothes particularly well, since the look of clothing is an interaction between clothes and the model's body. Why would people think clothes that simply hang down from shoulders are attractive?)

I can only thing of two decent explanations for the practice: It may have been a custom that developed a long time ago for some silly reason, and hung on for some reason because people never think to question it. Supporting this, for me, is the way that all runway models tend to look more or less the same. So did the girls in the movie. I mean, they looked okay (once you start thinking like a 13-year old), but I got tired of seeing them because they all looked about the same, with little personality or individual style.

My other theory about runway models is that the goal ultimately is to please female buyers, buyers who don't want to, consciously or not, be compared with the models. Hence skeletons modeling clothes.

BTW, this is probably mentioned elsewhere by someone, but that 1 cm tolerance limit *amazed* me. I'm a guy, but 1 cm is under my natural daily fluctuation.

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[–] DisturbedPixie 11 years ago

I don't see why any female would look at a malnourished model and be pleased by that besides wishing they were deemed attractive.

I can't understand the practice. I agree clothes hangers don't do clothing justice. I think most clothes look good on a women with some curves.

The first girl they said should go on a diet in the auditions looked hot to me. Her butt was just perfect. The girls they chose looked sickly.

And I agree the 1cm rules wouldn't work a day for me either. I can't even begin to understand how that can be anything other than a way to scam these girls out of their $8k.

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[–] Ieepsolo 10 years ago

Exactly! Isn't the point of modeling to make the clothes look as appealing as possible? I can't tell you how many clothes I have tried on that looked great on a hanger, but terrible on, and vice versa. If the clothes are going to be worn by the averagely-shaped woman, shouldn't they look appealing to those women? I don't know. There's probably some complicated marketing strategy behind it that apparently works.

To comment on the 1 cm rule that you brought up, I thought that was amazing too. Like you said, 1 cm in circumference is within daily fluctuations. From what I remember, the contract said something about the rule applying to bust size, too. They're 13! Of COURSE their busts are going to grow! That contract was bogus (for so many reasons) from the very beginning.

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[–] Stirchley 9 years ago

Tall, skinny models show off the clothes better on the runway and in photos.

That's the bottom line. Back in 1965 Twiggy was an overnight sensation because, for one reason, she looked sensational in the clothes of the time.

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[–] kernal-3 11 years ago

Consumers, and who are they? Women. Sorry, but sad truth.

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[–] jeffreymkennedy 11 years ago

We did.... and unfortunately continue to do so as consumers of the products it's used to promote.

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[–] swtlilsonI 11 years ago

the reason is because the fashion industry is not selling sex. they don't want to get models with huge breasts make them pose like in sports illustrated because obviously the only thing people are going to think of is their sexual attraction. the fashion industry wants to focus on pure beauty not tainted by sexual desire. with thin models, their face, bone structure, graceful and delicate bodies, features such as their eyes, etc shine rather than their carnal attributes.

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[–] lanis_cupus 10 years ago

You're right in the sense that it's about exoticism rather than eroticism. But it's a mistake to discount the slenderness factor here. Being thin becomes more exotic as the world gets fatter. Further, I would bet that delicateness (even frailness) IS a sexual attractor for many men. In short, I think you've grossly oversimplified the matter.

BTW, the wording of your post not only defends the modeling industry, but glamorizes it--which is the very idea this movie purportedly debunks.

That's the most you'll ever get out of me Wordman. Ever. -Eddie Wilson

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