Not to be a downer but...


I really did not care for this film. I mean don't get me wrong. It's cute, charming, and heartwarming, but at the same time the film's story seemed very stale in my opinion. I guess I'm just used to most Studio Ghibli films involving supernatural elements. Why is Umi the only one preparing all meals for her family? Is this a Japanese custom, laziness by her family, or was it just voluntary? All in all, it features a cast of boring characters with a story that is lackluster.

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Since his father passed away and her mother studied abroad at United States, Umi as the eldest child, is responsible to take care her family and the people who lives in Coquelicot Mansion, including preparing all meals for them. It doesn't mean that the others are lazy to do that (in several scenes they also helped Umi).

Have you ever been watched another Ghibli's based on reality film such as Only Yesterday, Ocean Waves and Whisper of the Heart? If not, try to compare them with this one.

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I've seen every one of Studio Ghibli's films except for the Lupin the 3rd films, and of the ones you mentioned, those are the main ones I did not care for. I guess I'm more of a fantasy guy.

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I completely agree with you. The visual was breathtaking but the actual characters and plot was.. Forgettable. I have watched Whisper of the Heart and Only Yesterday and I really loved them. They had a better messeage then this movie and IMO more heart. I will probably get much hate for saying this but Goro is unfortunately not a good director at the moment. He might prove himself in the future though that he really has the talent Hayao has. Who knows?

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I think you are selling Goro short with this one. From Up on Poppy Hill is brilliant. I suppose what separates it from other Ghibli movies is the fact that the story is a pure melodrama. There is zero fantasy, but that doesn't mean it's forgettable. Maybe it's just a difference of opinion but I haven't been able to stop thinking about the movie and its message about change and progress and letting go of the past to live for the future. The animation, storyboarding, pacing, and soundtrack are all flawless and I mean totally flawless. I honestly think that with the exception of Spirited Away, Goro's second feature length film is the best Studio Ghibli has made. I also believe the movie was not completely meant for a Japanese audience, but rather I believe western audiences will very much understand and connect with it.

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IMO, the only Ghibli film From up on Poppy Hill is better than is Tales from Earthsea, and only marginally. Goro has no spark, and his films just don't breathe like other Ghibli films.

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"The animation, storyboarding, pacing, and soundtrack are all flawless and I mean totally flawless."

Seriously? I couldn't disagree more. The soundtrack struck me as extremely lackluster and cliche, and it should come as no surprise that the great Joe Hisaishi had no hand in it. The animation is good, but not quite up to the extreme high standards set by Goro's father and Takahata Isao. As kjihwan wrote in his excellent review on IMDb, "What [Only Yesterday and Whisper of the Heart] did was to depict the everyday routine and the smallest trivial action with the same affection and wonder, not to mention painstaking detail, as it did flying dragons and wolf-gods". That's exactly how I felt about Up on Poppy Hill, and I guess in a way it symbolizes the younger Japanese generation's strives to take short cuts instead of doing it the hard way as their fathers did from post-war depression through economic miracle.

Now, I am not accusing the younger generation of lacking creativity; rather, quite the opposite. Which is why I'd have liked to see Goro put his own touch to this instead of trying to copy the uncopyable. The end result is that this movie wants to be a lot, and Miyazaki junior clearly strives to get the respect from his father he didn't get from his earlier effort. And probably will never get until he tries to make a Miyazaki Goro movie instead of just a Miyazaki movie.

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The background art is beautiful. Everything else is... meh, particularly the score (apart from the piece when they are walking and discussing repairing the clubhouse -- which singer's voice at least conveys something beyond the saccharine schmaltz omnipresent elsewhere in the music).

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Completely agree, watched this last night, loved it. It is my second favorite of the Studio Ghibli films after Spirited Away (I have seen all the Hayao Miyazaki films). The animation, the characters, the music, the atmosphere, it was all very charming and beautiful. I usually don't care for melodrama, but in this case it worked surprisingly well. The film did not suffer from the lack of a fantasy aspect. I actually preferred the realistic approach. The way they handled young love was very realistic. Loved the theme of preserving the old ways while embracing the new. Also loved how the flag raising was connected to honoring the memory of the father.

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Great comment! :) I hope to enjoy this movie just as much :D I might watch it tonight!

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Many of the people are boarders so it is proper that the head of the rooming house be responsible for their meals. There does seem to be something in the Japanese culture, at least from the anime I've seen, that tends to give teenagers and even younger children much more adult responsibilities than they would have in the US. Take the clubhouse: it seemed the boys were running the place by themselves, a fairly big house with no adult supervision whatsoever, and then the whole school gets involved in cleaning it, again on their own initiative, apparently getting their own supplies. And then a bit later, we see that the students have raised their own scaffolding so they can paint the outside of the house! That just would not happen in the US.

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Compared to such Ghibli dramas like 'Whisper of the Heart' and 'Only Yesterday,' there isn't quite that tinge of 'magic' that accompanied them.

It's moreso a simple romantic drama about people going about life, and reminded me a little of the simplicity of 'Ocean Waves,' which also relied mainly on environment, and the characters within the story.

I do find it a good film from Ghibli, though I can see many fed a steady diet of Hayao Miyazaki magic/wonder will be disappointed.


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Many Asian customs are like this where the oldest female is usually the one that does most of everything in the house if the Mother is not there. Films like this and Grave of the Fireflies confuse many people because they don't understand the role and relationships of families, relatives, communities and society. For instance, my people are heavily clan based, where almost everyone knows everyone somehow, where your roots can be traced solely from your last name, and you can't do anything without families in US (don't know about back home) not knowing sooner or later.

The eldest daughter does most of the work and the other siblings can help out but it is her responsibility. The eldest son is responsible to take care of the parents til they die. It's a duty. The youngest is always the one that gets spoiled and does nothing or rather has nothing to do. Trust me, the responsibilities are ENORMOUS when you are in either role (son or daughter).

Heck, even when the daughter is married off her husband now becomes the second person to take care of her parents alongside the eldest son :P My suggestion when watching films that are foreign to you is to watch them with an open mind. Not everyone culture is the same. Even Asians differ in some ways from each other :)

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I'd rank it in the lower half of the Ghibli canon, to be sure. It had nice ideas, but I don't think narratively it was on the level of the best stuff they've done. Still very nice though. Characters could probably have used a little more developing, yes, but I liked it overall regardless of that.

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I definitely agree. Music, pacing, animation, setting- all very interesting and well done. I actually went into this movie having not read a synopsis or knowing anything about it. Just the studio and names attached to the picture were enough to spark my interest.
I, too, was disappointed with the lack of fantasy elements; however, anime is so saturated with fantasy that I did find it a nice break from the norm. My problem, like yours, is that the story at it's core, has been done, was predictable, and uninspiring.

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Without knowing anything about the story, when Shun starts looking at Umi's family pictures I immediately thought "they've got the same dad, but it turns out they don't in the end."

Very predictable, and overall, not great. I'm definitely not saying it's a bad movie and am glad I watched it, but I won't be telling anyone to go pick this one up.

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I think what a lot of people are not getting is the nostalgia element - this film is set in 1964, just before the Tokyo Olympics. That's a long time ago.

The young people in the story are the immediate post-war generation, there's feel of optimism and new beginnings in the air, but some of them also value the past and are concerned about losing touch with their heritage.

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From Up on Poppy Hill, Only Yesterday, Whispers from the Heart are my favorites. The Cat Returns is another one I liked.

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This movie is what's known as "a slice of life", where story isn't the most important thing. It's about watching the lives of people in a certain place, at a certain time, and seeing how they lived.

You wouldn't look at a painting and say it sucks because it has no story, and that's how you need to look at movies like this.

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Grandma owns the hostel and the two granddaughters live with her. All other girls are paying guests. In Japanese tradition, once you become the grandmother, you no longer have to work. All works will be done by the daughter-in-law. If she is missed in action, her daughter will take her place. In this case, Sora should help more but she could be too young or Umi is too protective of her younger sister. Note that Asian men never do any housework or chore just like their mothers. Otherwise, they will get criticized by their mothers and asked if he loves his wife more than his mom.

Because of this culture, most Japanese, Korean and Chinese women hate their mother-in-law because traditionally mother-in-law is the queen and daughter-in-law is the slave. Most hope and can't wait their mother-in-law dies soon.

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I have to agree. Unfortunately, both films by Goro Miyazaki are pretty bland. This movie is not nearly as nostalgic or emotional as Only Yesterday and it's utterly lifeless when compared to Whisper of the Heart. Everything here is done by the book, but it just feels... somewhat empty. Gorgeous backgrounds notwithstanding.

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Tales from Earthsea was a terrible adaptation of some pretty wonderful books, but I found this absolutely beguiling, with a strong story, the expected beautiful animation and, of course, certain unexpected narrative turns. My favourite of Ghibli’s nostalgia pieces, I prefer this to Only Yesterday.

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