Disappointed it's canceled
I guess I must have horrendous taste, but I enjoyed this show. I liked it better than Pan Am. I'm disappointed it's off the air. Anyone else feel the same way?
shareI agree with you. It was a good show with a lot of potential. I figured that with a bevy of lovely women and elements "borrowed" from Mad Men it would be at least a moderate hit. NBC apparently felt differently.
shareThe audience felt different, the ratings were dismal.
"I feel like you get me. And you know why? Because we're both extremely beautiful."
Actually there was a lot of boycotting of the show even before it aired some family group stated the show objectified women, I just watched the series on Hulu, and sometimes I catch reruns of Las Vegas, and you would see more flesh on that series which ran for 5 seasons than you did on The Playboy Club.
There are several episodes on Las Vegas where the women are wearing thongs and very little material for their bath suit tops. I just watched an episode of Las Vegas last week and the camera shots of the women were shooting up from view as if the viewer is looking up at the women's crotches.
This series barely showed any skin or provocative shots at all, I guess the country got more conservative since Las Vegas went off the air several years ago.
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That's not exactly true, if you read any of the news articles, and they also went after advertisers, it's rather hard to say Playboy is a gateway to porn since teenagers and anyone else can find porn online for free anytime they want.
Groups like Morality in Media and the Parents Television Council worked aggressively to bring what they believed to be a demeaning and pro-porno show to an end quickly.
Morality in Media, a faith-based group in New York that fights porn in the media, circulated online petitions to ban the series, urged NBC to shut it down, and boycotted advertisers of the show as well, as it accused the series of contributing “to the sexual objectification and exploitation of women.”
That's from an article that appeared in The Christian Post, even they reported the groups went after advertisers.
Monday wasn't the best night for the series it was on opposite Castle, Hawaii Five-0 and Monday Night Football on ESPN. If it had aired on Sunday night it might have fared better.
Honestly Las Vegas did many episodes where they had strippers on the series, as well as an episode on a porn convention, with actually actors from the adult entertainment industry.
If I'm not mistaken almost all the women on Baywatch were Playboy Playmates or did pictorials for Playboy and it lasted for several seasons. If you ever watched the E True Hollywood Story on Baywatch the producers openly admitted they had a good relationship with Playboy when it came to finding women for the series, and some of them posed nude for Playboy while they were on the series.
So the argument about it being a gateway to porn doesn't wash.
Ironically the news magazine 30 Rock with Brian Williams has the same ratings, because it has the same competition.
It's moot now since the series most likely will not come back, it's too bad it could have been picked up by AMC and piggy backed with Mad Men.
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Whether their attack on the series actually had a direct effect on the decision to cancel the show is irrelevant to what I was discussing.
It is relevant, there is a lot more sexual content in daytime television as well as almost any series on The CW.
They focused on the series because they thought it sexualized women, their arguments about it being a gateway to porn fall flat as do their exertions that it was on during a time when children could see the series, which weren't true. Where I live this series came on at 9 pm, a viewing hour that isn't set aside for children to be viewing television. Las Vegas came on where I lived at 8 pm.
This was just a way for past feminist to get back at Hugh Hefner who had nothing to do with the series except do some narrations here and there.
Besides there is a movement in the U.S. that basically wants to re-write history, you can't judge people in the past by present perspectives. The 60s were different times than they are now, but people like Gloria Steinem only want series that show strong empowered women which is not how the 60s were, the Women's Movement was really just gathering steam.
Some people don't want to recall how we came to think the way we do about gender in the past they only want to see the present.
The series Pan Am is still even with it's re-write of history since ABC banned the characters from smoking which people did in the 60s. This is what is a called a re-revisionist cheat. Although it looks like it get canceled as well. if they're not going to allow characters to be portrayed the way people would have behaved in the past then period series aren't going to make it on a network.
Interesting that none of the people who wanted and got the series canceled never watched an episode. That's like reviewing a book without reading it.
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Advertisers don't always like controversial series, and the low rating and the failure to get viewers along with the failure to get advertisers who would want to advertise on a low rated series all factor into the equation whether "you" see it as relevant. It's never one thing it's a series of things that factor into canceling a series.
A series needs to first and foremost pay for itself or there needs to be other revenue coming into a network to help offset a low ratings series and allow it to fid an audience. NBC doesn't have a lot of high rating series bringing in revenue, and the fact that what replaced the series is doing the same in it's ratings also speaks to the issue of the time slot, the difference being a news magazine is a lot less expensive to produce than a television series so the low ratings in that time slot and the ad revenue it gets are most likely enough to keep that series on until the end of the season.
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It's not the level of sleaze in the series that had the protesters up in arms, it's that they saw the show as a weekly hour long commercial for the magazine itself, which they saw as definitely pornographic. For them the entire Playboy empire is all inherently wrong and no aspect, even one with no nudity or actual smut, should be allowed on broadcast television. To them the Playboy Club was like gateway pornography.
Your first post was wrong because I clearly gave you a link to what they stated and why, and to them porn is sleazy, and it was one but not the contributing factor as to why the series was canceled.
Many series stay on the air with those ratings if a network has other series to offset the money it takes to keep it on an allow it to find an audience.
Actually you haven't discussed much because you don't appear to no why it was canceled or the motivations of the people who wanted it canceled which varied. Some thought it was sleazy, other thought it demeaned women, and other thought it was glorifying the pron industry, and others like Gloria Steinem just as you stated didn't like Playboy as an enterprise just on their principles and beliefs.
If the series had 11 million viewers like Hawaii Five-0 NBC would have left it on the air. because they would have been making a profit, and in the end that is what it comes down to "MONEY" and what is profitable for a network.
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I know knight_sentinel from the BnB boards. I haven't seen any post by him on this board, I only came over here because I catch Las Vegas from time to time and the some of the criticism the series got for demeaning and making women sexual objects is no different than that series. , I believe he's a man, I'm a woman, and we don't agree on things even on the BnB site. Who are you the only person I know who thinks knight_sentinel is some other guy on the BnB site is instran who everyone calls istrange.
You must be instran1 or one her many shell accounts that she talks to herself with on imdb so you have a new account name. Weird??
You really like talking to yourself.
So you assume everyone is knight_sentinel that's weird I think, awhile back you thought knight_sentinel was a two other people then you started posting he was someone else, now you're saying it's me, I guess since you have so many names on here you just think everyone has several accounts.
What does that have to do with this series getting canceled or the fact that you haven't read anything as to why it was canceled? LOL!
You have to be instran1 since she's only trolls imdb and accuses other people of being knight_sentinel, Why do you think knight is all these different people? it's weird that you accuse knight_sentinel of being so many people all at once. I just checked you think he's mysticman44 now, I think you thought he was kalika or flutterby at one time. You even have several post calling him mysticman44 now why?
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