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S6E12 Quinn....

posted 7 years ago by Rorikon (16393)
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Lost for words. He added such a nice twister effect to the story with his handicap and his ability to try to overcome it and still do his duty. The fact that he died during the getaway and then that was it. Claire didn't cry as much as she used to or usually does after he got shot to death. They just ended with him dying then fast forward about a couple of weeks and he's gone... WTF!!

I loved his acting and everything that goes with character that brings the charm of the drama to this show but now its all gone :<

RIP Quinn

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 7 years ago

Hi Rorikon
I just watched the finale and then read your post and i couldn't agree more. This was a very incoherent finale for HOMELAND?.. I don't understand why go to all the trouble to bring back Quinn from the dead of the last season and then kill him in the next season?!

That whole time jumping forward six weeks later was also really what screwed up the this last episode, you would expect a character like Quinn with 6 seasons in this show would deserve a memorial service or something more. Quinn was just as important and a pillar of this show (Homeland) as Carrie is. I was just as surprised that yes Carrie (Claire) didn't cry or mourn for Quinn as she did in the past; there was just something really off and different about this finale, where we still don't know who was behind the assassination of the new president; why is the radio guy "Brett O'Keefe" still on the air?, how come they arrested a Saul and not him? what was his involvement with the black box site who were making all this fake lies and videos?.
The ending of this season finale was very distorted after Quinn's death and six weeks later bs.

I think all the fans will all agree with you and miss the Quinn character and I doubt this show will ever be the same and it maybe time to end Homeland next season.

[–] MrSpock (286) 7 years ago

I too did not like the finale. Very unsatisfying. We, the audience, go through so many pitfalls throughout the season to get what at the end? More crap.

I'm not sure this show is for me anymore. It is trying to become relevant and imo it is not. It has crossed the line. I did not like season 6 at all.

[–] Cookie.L.A. (2117) 7 years ago

<< you would expect a character like Quinn with 6 seasons in this show would deserve a memorial service or something more. Quinn was just as important and a pillar of this show (Homeland) as Carrie is. >>

There will probably be flashbacks to all that in the next season, as Carrie processes her grief, etc.
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[–] Sentient Meat (1509) 7 years ago

I thought Quinn was a good character but once he had his stroke, it was difficult to buy him as an action hero/Jack Bauer type character. I guess they could've put him behind a desk but they already had Saul, Max and Dar for those types of roles. I commend the show for presenting people with disabilities in a positive light but to have both Carrie's bipolar issues combined with Quinn's paralysis, constantly stretched the limits of credibility if you consider they regularly outmaneuvered professionally trained soldiers, agents and mercenaries from top agencies with their respective conditions. All things considered, Quinn got to leave on a high note even though he tragically ended up saving a rat.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 7 years ago

I just read your comments on Quinn but sorry I never saw Quinn as a "action hero/Jack Bauer type character" ?. This show has some action true, but Quinn came in as a kind of jerk, he was known to be this dark type of CIA agent who ran more complex secret ops that yes involved killing people. However, if you recall he was more of a tormented person, a loner who wanted out for something more and normal life, he wanted to also leave the CIA and get away from people like Dar.

His farewell letter to Carry at the last episode of season 5 and what he shared about darkness was really what summed up Quinn to more of a three dimensional character than your poor comic book action hero comparison to "Jack Baur", who is just laughable. I don't think and am sure many people will also agree that Homeland has ever been viewed as an action show, yes even though action has been part of the stories that most of them never ended as they way other shows do. I also don't agree that " Quinn's paralysis, constantly stretched the limits of credibility"?.. we are way way passed Carrie's biopolar issues and if you watched season 6 again, you will realize Quinn also changed his attitude about his situation to learn and accept it, that's why he stopped doing drugs and went on to do what he does or what he knows best with his disability. Whatever deals that producers made with the actor "Rupert Friend" to end his character again was something we'll never know I guess?.., because if you watch his other interviews, he said that he was done at the season 5, but it was a surprise he was asked to come back again season 6.

I don't think his disabilities would have made the slightest difference to the hard core audience and fans of this character "Quinn". This season 6 started out really good but it took a weird turn toward the end and last episode was not only incoherent was poorly done, it was just not the usual quality story telling that Homeland usually displayed.

[–] Sentient Meat (1509) 7 years ago

I agree with you that Homeland has been much superior to 24 (though I do love 24 in its own action genre way) however, I always felt the show poorly portrayed the motivations behind Carrie's attraction to both Brody and Quinn other than at a pure animal magnetism level. Claire Danes is a great actor as are Lewis and Friend... but I always felt more genuine chemistry with those actors and other characters than between each other. Claire's feelings for Saul... even Quinn's feelings for Astrid or the apartment lady. So when, I say Jack Bauer... I'm not being dismissive of the show but the waste of Quinn's character. I also don't mean to demean sincere efforts by the writers to integrate real world ailments into the story... I only felt that trying to do two at a time was distracting. I'm sure often two serious things pop up in normal life... but when using the poetic licenses needed for scripting television shows, I felt it was like trying to do too much. You disagree, and I respect that... but since the show is about espionage and not about a social worker like American Crime this season... it didn't make as much sense in this context.

[–] Catbookss (13664) 7 years ago

I'm not certain what you're saying, so I'm asking. Are you saying you didn't feel genuine chemistry between Claire Dane's character and Damian Lewis's? I sure did! I thought they knocked their portrayal of their relationship right out of the park. To me, Carrie's attraction to Brody, which had a nice slow build, made perfect sense.

With Claire and Rupert, I agree with you there. Rupert Friend is a remarkable actor, and I loved his Quinn. I bought him as a tormented soul, but not one who had an unrequited love for Carrie.

Homeland lost me after S5, which I felt was a spotty season. Had Quinn not been in it, I doubt I'd have finished it.

[–] Prelude (1443) 7 years ago

I hated that they killed off Quinn, but even worse than that, I hated how rushed the episode felt, flashing forward several weeks, Quinn's already buried, and we never even got to see that memorial service as a scene in the show, after everything Quinn as a character was to this show.

Shame on the writers. His character deserved better than that. And Carrie having very little grief, just one moment of breaking down over the photos. Carrie's a cryer -- we should have seen her feel the loss way more deeply than this, after everything Quinn has meant to her over all these years.

[–] Birdmant7 (202) 7 years ago

I totally agree with all your comments about the last episode; it was the most incoherent episode I have ever watched in the entire 6 season of Homeland. I posted something similar about Quinn and not even memorial service for a guy who just saved the President's life?. And Carrie's reaction even in the car when Quinn died was odd to me and just didn't make sense how they just jumped into weeks later?. Who were the other parties involved in the attempt to kill the President?. If Dar was involved how did he come to warn Carrie about the attack?.

It was like we missed an entire second act and these writers just threw those scenes at us to just go along with it. I thought it was really an insult to the audience and very sloppy way to end a season that started good with some interesting premise and yet the ending was like you were in a limbo and confused.

[–] Prelude (1443) 7 years ago

Exactly. It was really confusing and disappointing, and yet this season started so strong. Awful.

[–] brux (14666) 7 years ago

It is interesting ... I read a thing about the Presidential motorcade cars and how they are designed to pretty much survive a small war. In reality I think that the small arms fire that the car took while Quinn was driving would not have resulted in so much damage. But ... it is just a TV show.

Now that I am going back and watching this series for the second and for some episodes a third or fourth time I am starting to see patterns in the show and wondering what, if anything, this show is trying to convey. Is it pro or con CIA. I noticed the first season had a lot of extreme right wing support, and the last season really got a lot of criticism from what seemed like extreme right-wing viewers. Was that true, or warranted?