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What do you not like about this show?

posted 12 years ago by JaredJMcLean
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Compared to all the other piece of s**t cartoons on television right now, Allen Gregory, though far from best cartoon I've ever seen, is not THAT bad for God's sake. What is it that bothers you about this show? I'd like to know. All I've managed to find on the boards so far is, "this sHo is BAD". Get more specific, dammit. Is it the timing of the jokes that's not doing it for you? Are you offended by some of the off-color stuff?

Personally I like the writing, but I'm not a fan of the visually static nature of it. Not much happens on-screen. Animation should be lively, it holds infinite potential, capable of doing things and going places traditional shows just can't. AG is limited animation to the Nth degree: For the most part, characters stand motionless while they move their stylistically tiny mouths, and that's it. Cheap animation tactics, really.

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[–] A_New_Hope 12 years ago

Whats mature about it. All you guys saying it's witty or mature are just trying to make yourselves feel better as humans. It's pathetic and it makes fun of gay's, people who are from 3rd world countries and it makes light of pedophilia. Tell me whats funny and sophisticated about a 7 year old dissing everyone and then not learning and growing from it?
It's pathetic.

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[–] Xanthis2001 12 years ago

Oh please, do not compare Allen Gregory's pathetic attempts at humor to the master of French satire.

Voltaire's work was about pointing out ingnorance, intolerance, and abuses of power this show is about embracing ignorance, intolerance, and abusing power all without consequence.

There is nothing witty or redeemable about Allen Gregory. It isn't farce - it's writer's egos might like to think it is- because it lacks sophistication and proper resolution with consequences for immoral acts and rewards for virtous acts.

Every week Allen and his father are the most horrible sociopathic people and they are rewarded for their horrible behavior by "winning". People don't want to see that every week they want characters they can root for; they can be flawed but they have to be redeemable. Selfish, manipulative, evil characters make wonderful supporting characters but they are unmoving as the "hero" of the story. That is why people hate this show. Allen Gregory is not a character you root for and you certainly don't want to see him "win".

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[–] monyamarie 12 years ago

It's not about there being a moral, it's about allen gregory and his father are spoiled dickheads. I liked the show at first but it just keeps getting more ridiculous. From what I've noticed though is all of Jonah Hill's characters are extremely rude and bratty. P.s it's extremely hard to enjoy this show when all you keep thinking is "are you *beep* kidding me"? . Maybe you're just a douchebag and can identify with the douchebag characters.

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[–] Scott-101 12 years ago

I don't think Jonah Hill's characters on the big screen are rude and bratty, but that's an interesting point because I usually don't like Jonah Hill's movies (although Moneyball, when I finally get around to seeing it, should be a game changer, and Cyrus was a good acting performance).

I think Allen Gregory is a bad character and I think you're typical Jonah Hill character is also pretty bad, but for different reasons. Gregory is snobbish, whereas Hill's characters are usually sophomoric and juvenille.

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[–] A_New_Hope 12 years ago

Agreed!

[–] JaredJMcLean 12 years ago

They haven't won once yet. What're you talking about? Just in one of the last episodes, AG gets chocolate milk poured into his pants and willingly shames himself to help out someone he sees as a friend, and Richard finally realized he really is just a spoiled child in everyone else's eyes, ending the episode with a heartbroken vacant look in his eyes. The characters are GROWING, dammit. It's been on for 5 episodes. You all want these characters to be likable in 30 minutes or less.

These characters say and do terrible things because they want you to HATE them at first and begin to like them at the end, showing that even though they are rude, cynical narcissists, they are people, too; capable of feeling just as hurt and unloved as anyone else.

I find it refreshing to see a show centered around the antagonist being their own antagonist rather than the clearer, usual good-guy/bad-guy thing. It changes things up a bit from the standard network-television comfort zone of shows about families we love at the beginning and love at the end.

[–] Full_Blooded_Italian 12 years ago

The characters are GROWING, dammit.

Well the most recent episode kinda cancelled all that out. They reverted back to their old ways. But I agree, last weeks episode was strong, this weeks though wasn't.

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[–] AmericanGayAtheist 12 years ago

Its really very simple... The show is badly written! It tries to be edgy but ends up just being mean spirited and rude. For some unimaginable reason Jonah Hill thinks a 7 year old's boys sexual obsession with a 60 something year old woman is funny. (And here's a big hint...IT ISN'T)!

He think a creepy gay father who borders on being a molester (not to mention a negative gay stereotype) , is "edgy"! It's not, it's obnoxious and homophobic (and yes Seth McFarlahd does gay stereotypes also, but he is careful not make them so obnoxious as to end up being creepy)!

He spoke recently about Allen Gregory, pretty much saying he really didn't give a $hit if viewer liked Allen Gregory - he knew it was funny - arrogantly appointing himself as all-knowing seer of all that is funny and edgy.

Hill is another Pauly Shore, funny for a minute and then a dreadful bore who can't figure out its time to leave the party!

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[–] A_New_Hope 12 years ago

Pauly Shore was awesome in the early 90's, Jonah has never been awesome. He was ok in superbad but thats it.

[–] Scott-101 12 years ago

Reverend Foley, that's not an intelligent response. You're just adding fuel to the fire.

Let me try a better response.

The first poster spoke of the animation being strong. Yes, possibly. Animation isn't my top priority.

It might be funny at times and funniness is the goal of a comedy, but anything resembling a strong foundation for characters and future humor is really shoddy. The characters just don't make sense.

There's also the problem about two of the characters being delusional jerks and the show sort of ignoring them, which gives us little reason to invest in them.

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[–] shadowman21 12 years ago

I do like this show.
I think only people who can relate to the show's gay theme can appreciate it for what it is. And yes, there are people who are like Allen and his father in the real world, I have had the misfortune of meeting a few whose personalities resemble those of Allen and Richard, folks that are stubborn and will use their intelligence in manipulative ways just to have their way with others. Richard and Allen do represent the percentage of people who are that in the real world.
And yeah, I think Allen is meant to be a child prodigy of some sorts, just like Stewie in Family Guy. But I think because Stewie is not fully depicted has having 100% gay tendencies he is not dissed by views as much as Allen is.
Overall, this show is watchable ... well if you ignore Richard's unbearable antics.

[–] Full_Blooded_Italian 12 years ago

But I think because Stewie is not fully depicted has having 100% gay tendencies he is not dissed by views as much as Allen is.
Overall, this show is watchable ... well if you ignore Richard's unbearable antics.

Has nothing to do with homosexuality, Stewie is liked because he's funny. It's as simple as that, he makes alot of people laugh. Plus, he doesn't always win either, sometimes bad stuff happens to him.

[–] A_New_Hope 12 years ago

Bad stuff always happens to him, and agreed Stewie wither a homosexual or not is funny. It's a difference in writing, Seth knows how to write a joke that makes you go "oh god that's not right" but at the same time you laugh because it's funny. Allen Gregory failed on all counts here. Not once did i laugh the whole "season" of Allen Gregory, yet i have laughed during Seth's worst episodes. Heck even the Cleavland show makes me laugh.

[–] rleary1 12 years ago

Animation, Art, Plot, Voice-characterizations, you name it. I've tried watching this chelated piece of dog fece and still don't know which demographic the shows creators are appealing to?

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[–] Whip412 12 years ago

Yeah. I see no need for a ridiculous show about a gay 4th grader

[–] TimmyAnn 12 years ago

I see no need for this show, either, but who said the kid was gay? His dads are but I have seen no indication that he is.

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[–] misonyea 12 years ago

there's nothing i hate about this show. it's just that there's nothing i like about this show. I watched an episode for the first time today to just check it out and i finished it. wow what a boring show. If this is supposed to be a comedy show, I did not laugh once and the writers are doing a terrible TERRIBLE job. I agree that there are sh*tty cartoons on television now and this is a perfectly good example of it. and if you're referring to family guy by 'other piece of s**t cartoons', I have to disagree with you completely. I think Family guy is one of the best shows ever created. To answer your question, I do not like this show because It's not funny. Simple as that. There were no jokes what so ever, the script was so simple, anyone over the age of 10 could have written it. I honestly don't see what you like so much about this show at all. I gave it 1 star rating

[–] sphinx1-1 12 years ago

I don't like the animation or art direction. The characters are unsympathetic. I thought it was supposed to be funny but it's not. I was not offended by the "edginess" but I was bored with the gratuitous nature of it pretty fast. A dull edge does not cut. Entertainment that bores - equals waste of time. However, I can see how it might be appealing to miscreants. I believe that is the target audience. So the key to the success of a show like Allen Gregory is if the producers can tap into the vast miscreant market and have them tune in regularly during that time slot.

[–] ryuheikitamura 12 years ago

The show is gross, and all of the characters are detestable. Scenes of Allen Gregory getting together with Gottlieb aren't funny they're simply gross, and seeing him berate everyone and act like a jerk all the time isn't funny either. It would be one thing if Gregory was the jerk and everyone around him was the straight man to his douche bag behavior but nope, all of the characters are unlikable. Actually, I don't even think the show would work if all the characters were likable because Gregory is still the center of attention and he is simply a pretentious, smug, arrogant jerk and never says anything funny. Cartman berates and belittles everyone but he constantly gets whats coming to him, and the other kids on the show often act as the voice of reason in all of the insanity that takes place. Gregory never gets whats coming to him and none of the characters are the voice of reason, so it never works. Not to mention, Cartman is an extreme exaggeration of everyone's own inner biases and hatred and tackles everything head-on with an air of satire while Gregory doesn't.

The writing is so weak, that I think anyone could have created this show. Hm, let's make a character that no one likes who never learns a lesson and have him insult everyone for 30 minutes while trying to spoon with an old woman. Sound good? It misses the mark on every conceivable level. People don't like gross-out situations merely because they're gross and they need some kind of basis in humor, and people don't like mean-spirited banter when it doesn't have any context or basis in anything humorous. Man, I'm so glad this show was cancelled and Jonah Hill is untalented hack.

[–] businesstime12 12 years ago

There was just so much staleness and originality that reeked from this show, without Hill, there's no way it would have ever been green lit. Even with his participation, the show would never find an audience. And on a final note, his dad's character felt like a carbon-copy rip-off of the dean from Community.