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Any guesses which movie's copy is Talaash?


please let me know as most of the indian movies are ridiculous replicas of foreign movies so i want to watch the original one just to avoid wasting my time over this one.

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Its an Aamir Khan movie, so will be orig & will be brilliant.

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Please tell me you do not believe this....One of his most recent movies Ganjini was a rip-off of Memento.

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Have you even seen "Memento", do you even now the meaning of "rip-off"? The only thing similar between memento and Ghajini is the concept of short-term memory loss and the guy who has it uses tattoos and pictures as memories, and it is a disease, just because Memento had that doesn't mean any other film cannot use that disease for its story. Ghajini is about revenge its more like a love story, and memento is entirely different, deep and artistic.
Talaash will not be a "rip-off" of any movie, sure it could have some ideas from other movies and books (name one movie which is completely original nowadays), but that won't mean it's a rip-off.

@OP - It is true that most bollywood movies are rip-offs of foreign movies, but please do not place Aamir Khan's movies under that category, Just because Ghajini was a little bit unoriginal doesn't mean you can ignore his other brilliant movies and why does it even matter if the movie is unoriginal, as long as it serves its purpose that is to entertain.

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@ rajatbarman

WOW you are just a blind fan of Amir khan. You are stupid for believing amirs movies arent copied. I can give u a list of them movies which are a complete rip off from idea to execution.

1. Ghulaam = On the waterfront (marlon Brando) Watch the original movie Marlon is epic in this movie.

2. Akele Hum Akele Tum = Kramer Vs Kramer

3. Dil Hai ke Maanta nahi = It happened one night

4. Ghajini = Memento (Idea copied)

5. Mann = An Affair to Remember

6. Fanaa = Eye of the Needle

I will add more as i remember them. But i am dead sure there are many more movies of him which are a hollywood rip off. Amir is a brilliant actor, but he dosent always have a hand in the story or script. So its stupid to actually say, Amirs films arent copied, cuz hes just an actor.

P.S Get ur facts right before u call anyone stupid.

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@ sixtyfourmb

Thanks i thought it was one of my better creations lol, jk. The list is so long, it will start looking more like a petition for more traffic lights lol. Those are the only Amir movies i could think of which were plagiarized. But theres more, Be it shahrukh, salman, ajay, sunny or even amitabh. The list is really long. And copying sound tracks, songs, music from all over the world, well thats another thing all together

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About that list, He was not involved in the making of any of those movies.

He began only from Lagaan & most of the movies he has "made" are mostly original.

Did not mean to rain on your parade, but you have a good point, just that it does not apply here 8)

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@Itzumang


Damn if there was ever a cure for stupidity i wudve definitely put you first in the line!!! Dude, Lagaan was made by Ashutosh Gowarikar, and not Amir Khan!!! Sheesh.....The first movie that "Amir" directed officially was Taaren Zameen Par, in which half movie was directed by Amol Gupte (but since he walked out, Amir took all the credit himself), Amol has also written this film. Amir has not made any movies apart from Taaren zameen par, Though he has been an active producer (and maybe some involvement in direction) in Jaane tu ya Jaane na, Though Abbas tyrewala is clearly talented enough to do it on his own. Amir is just an actor, and may have his say while the film making, but HE DOSENT MAKE THE MOVIES.


P.S. READ MY LAST LINE IN MY LAST POST, You will regret posting your reply!!! And if still your dumb or lazy enough to not read and fully understand, I have already wrote, that AMIR isnt the one writing the script or directing it. HE IS JUST AN ACTOR, WHO ACTS. SO ITS THE WRITERS FAULT AND NOT HIS, IF THEY ARE PLAGIARIZING.

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Whats with the screaming?
you worried about fixing me so much than putting your point across?
put your self 1st in the line.

about making... the producer agrees & approves on what the director wants to do, also passes the expenditure cheques "after" approving the script which means he'd not go with inspired shyte.

Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. —Greg King
Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain

I rest my case.

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You actually have no point at all!!! Buddy all your quotes apply on yourself and not me!! Cuz you the one arguing over something which has already been said by me. I dont know if you are a fan of amir or not, but i definitely am. About 90% (if not more) movies are a total rip off of the hollywood films. And since they arent written by the actors who act in it, The actors cannot be blamed for plagiarism, Unless they have copied the acting style of another actor!! Please stop replying to my post. Cuz you really have nothing extra to offer to me.

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Good list! U seem to have a tight grip on cinema.. white knuckle tight!

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@rajatbarman: No body has issues with borrowed ideas from other movies("so called inspiration"). But filmmaker should be gracious enough to acknowledge it in film credits. Like Ramu did it in Sarkar.

"why does it even matter if the movie is unoriginal, as long as it serves its purpose that is to entertain."
------All hail Bollywood----- I rest my case

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Ghajni was crap!! MEMENTO was AWESOME!!

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its an Aamir khan movie so what? what was ghajni all about memento or anything else and shame on him by not even accepting this reality on the contrary he in an interview thanked the ripped regional one.
Well done Mr So Called Perfectionist its is regrettable that in India people consider it a blasphemy to criticize actors like aamir amitabh etc notwithstanding the fact that they owe this to the Indian audience to present them original cinema.

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Nobody owes anyone squat!! If you want to blame somebody, blame it on the story writer and the film maker. These guys are just actors. If its a good story, then they will act in it irrespective of whether its a rip-off. Atleast now a days, the producers buy the copyrights. But in the last 30-35 years, 3/4th of the films that we have seen in bollywood is a rip-off of one movie (from another language or even another country). It was not very apparent to us then, but now with internet, such things comes out in the open very soon.

BTW, Ghulam was from Vikram Bhatt, Fanaa is a Kunal Kohli film - both are known for their originality :LOL. And Ghajini(H) was a remake by the same director (Murugadoss) who did it in Tamil. Nobody is saying that these are originals. But these film makers dont even have the courtesy to acknowledge that.

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Peeps Lurrrrv hating on Hindi movies and Lurrrv to play the 'they are rip-offs of Hollywood movies' card. Well guess what? A big amount of Hollywood movies are 'rip-offs' of East Asian (Japan, Korea, Hong Kong) movies! I prefer to call them 'remakes' rather than 'rip-offs'. Hollyood ruin alot of the remakes just as Bollywood do BUT there are some that work very well too. Bollywood has a smaller budget than Hollywood but have done amazingly well over the last 15 odd years. Who would've thought 15 years ago that Bollywood movies would appear in mainstream Cinemas in Britain and the US regularly?
It was the Acting of Aamir Khan that took Bollywood to the Oscars remember?

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Its not really about preference, a remake and rip off is not the same thing.

A remake is official. With official being the keyword.
You actually buy the rights, and promote the film as a remake. When people buy the tickets they know they are going to watch a remake.
Now if bollywood do that, I have no issues whatsoever. They can remake every film ever made, if they REMAKE it.

With a rip off, you just shamelessly take an idea, and concept someone else came up with and claim its a original story. Without letting You know (as an audience) that the movie you are watching is actually a story the director took from somewhere else, you have no chance to find out unless you have already seen the original. Lets say its a film with a twist ending. The original will be ruined for you.

Now.... what if YOU make a brilliant movie, then I watch it.
I take your premise, your plot, your characters, your key scenes, even some of the shots, I even translate some of the freaking dialogue you wrote from english to hindi, but then I add a comedic subplot, or songs, dumb it down, and claim its a original concept. Im sure you wouldnt appreciate that.


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Ghulam : on the waterfront

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Ghajni was a remake so what???Does that make movies like Tzp,Rdb,Dch,lagaan,sarfarosh rip offs?Anyone can see why did he do ghajni,it was the role which lured him into the project.He has got better sense of movie making than most of the bollywood have a look at his home production for that.About this movie it is written by zoya akhtar and anurag kashyap if you haven't seen their movies then i would recommend you to watch them first and then comment.Btw i assume you are not that much into hindi movies,coz if you find aamir's movies shameful i don't think you even bother to watch others.

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Fanaa = Eye of the Needle

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Ghulam= On the waterfront
the perfectionist...

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Talaash is nt any rip offs or copy... bt being a thriller genre.. yu can find some similarities with de base with fight club or shutter island

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Shutter Island! In a recent conference he was all gaga over Scorsese's psychological flick which was a treat to watch! I don't think he can repeat what Martin did.
I watched Ghajini before I watched Memento and believe me, it made me hate the poor and tacky ideas B'wood gets, without any thoughts invested.

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I think that we should start a count down of the movies MR so called Perfectionist has ripped off in his perfectionist career.
Aatank hi aatank blatantly copied from a movie copied by almost hundreds of bollywood movie makers like the great Feroz khan well come on how could he even think to be near Al pacino, the greatest of all R G verma and so on.
Well Mr so called Perfectionist keep on making rigged Bollywood movies and make a fortune out of them as we(not me) would still love as you are declared as THE PERFECTIONIST.

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So this guy is an Aamir khan hater and i thought he would talk some sense,My bad.

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@ first oceans
i thought my thread would try to inculcate some common sense in ur senseless brain and alas in-vain its just like casting pearls before swine. Live with ripped off movies

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I have tried to say this in a few threads so far about the blatant copying of Hollywood movies and now the indian movies are being copied from other cinemas too. Everytime someone points this out the Bollywood fans start jumping up and down and blame hollywood of remaking or copying the East Asian movies. What they dont realise is that Hollywood studios pay royalties and copyrights to the rightful owners before copying any work. Our esteemed indian counterparts blatantly copy and brand it as original. And the audience take that as the work of God.

To be honest i dont know what pains me more that bollywood filmmakers are doing something so obviously wrong or the fact that indian audience is so narrow minded that they just refuse to broaden their horizons of rational thinking. I boycott most of the garbage from Indian Cinema because movies and concepts that they work on are a joke insulting viewers common sense. But I do watch them to find some decent films every now and then. Unfortunately I enjoyed Ghajini even though it was a "Copy" of Momento....no not the tamil movie as the tamil movie itself is copy of "Momento". Sorry guys, burying your head in sand aint gonna change the fact that the original source needs to be credited duely which bollywood very very rarely do.

Call me a hater as I am a hater, I hate someone presuming that they can churn out crap and I should be pleased. i hate that nobody there is willing to do things the right way. Bit harsh...may be just a tad.

Raj

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@coolraj: any examples from 2012?

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Examples of what?

Copies? Or good Films?

As I said my knowledge of these movies is limited as I dont watch the bollywood movies much but recently i though Delhi Belly was good and so was Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara.

I enjoyed both these movies.

Raj

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any examples of copies from this year?

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delhi belly is a copy of lock stock and smoking barrels.

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Delhi belly and Lock Stock???????? It is ridiculous to relate the two movies......

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@hareet-indira: Hera pheri part 2 was ripped off from lock stock and 2 smoking barrels.

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That is total c*ap. Delhi Belly is similar in style to Guy Ritchie films in general but certainly not a rip-off from Lock Stock. Besides, Delhi Belly is not a 2012 film.

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barfi has some 13 scenes exactly taken from several hollywood movies....they are second by second rip off....

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Erm ... Barfi hadnt released when I posted my OP. Besides, it isnt the first or the last movie in the world to lift a Chaplin scene. That doesnt make it a rip off. The script is still original.

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I agree with you

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Chicken Tikka Masala is an indian dish, the English only modified it to suit their tastes, and now they call it their "own" dish of sorts. What Indian film-makers are doing is something similar, they are taking concepts from Hollywood movies and Indianizing them. And seriously, do you think Indian Film-Makers can pay Royalties to Hollywood Studios? Come on! Dude, We don't have so much money! An Average Indian Flick is 5-10 Million American Dollars, and an Hollywood movie royalty would be equal to the film's budget.

And don't be such a bigshot and push derogatory comments down our throats. If you have any harsh opinions, keep it to yourself. I couldn't read through your EgoManiacal Post, where you depict yourself as Elite Superior being. F OFF! Just Don't bother yourself with Bollywood films.

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I've never seen chicken tikka masala in Indian restuarants in India. I have seen chicken tikka butter masala which is quite a different preperation than the UK staple that is chicken tikka masala. Enough about films.

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Please stop exaggerating about remake and rip offs! Even if some of them are rip offs that doesn't mean the movie is good or not! It takes a lot of time to develop a script and to convert the Hollywood version to Bollywood style and still making success requires some talent!

And please If u think Aamir acts only in rip offs then please tell me from which film 'LAGAAN' and 'Rang de basanti' was copied, because the last time i remembered these were one of the most innovative films i have seen even when compared with Hollywood!

I am not an Aamir Fan, but he's a great actor and i loved him as a director when i saw taare zameen par. Among films which brings out desi masala and never-ending love scenes, he intends to make a change. So i respect him. There may have been some rip off's, but there are some classic originals too. Please try to remember those films too before offending someone.

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Trying to inculcate some sense by giving examples of movies which were released almost two decades ago? Would like to tell you that i wasnt an aamir fan before he started doing sarfarosh,dch and rdb. In fact it was Rdb which made me his fan.I know you wont believe but he was the actor i hated the most. You completely ignored the changes he made in himself. He could have gone the same way made fool out of people and made money. But he went in completely different direction and started his stardom to provide his fans with something worth. You ignored all theses things I didnt .How are you supposed to see these things while being blindfolded by hatred?

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Wow.

This truly shows the level of your intellect.

BTW, are you addicted to bad grammar?

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This is in reply to the original poster.

I absolutely hate the manner in which imdb commenters on Hindi films seem to think they can get away with dismissing Hindi cinema. Just a while back I saw somebody on icb speculate about the latest Hindi release Barfi, wondering which film it could have copied.Barfi has opened to critical acclaim; it's said to be a feel good movie about a deaf-dumb guy and an autistic girl. There was a similar movie in Tamil, a few years back--Mozhi, about a self-sufficient young deaf and dumb girl.There was no autism reference though.

From all accounts Barfi seems to be an original film...and so does Talaash. Why speculate about films being coipies or rip offs?

And how original can a film be? Hollywood films are not always totally original.Quite often a film is partly inspired by some little known book or film.

India has been making films for a hundred years.Hindi, Tamil, Telugu, Bengali...some inspired, some original, some rip-offs (like God Tussi Great Ho, the bad copy of one favourite film, Bruce Almighty).

Aamir has made some wonderful films that are completely original -- 1947Earth (a remake of Bapsi Sidhwa's novel about Partition, released 1998); in 1999, the stylish political drama Sarfarosh (IMO, his best film), Lagaan and DCH (2001),Mangal Pandey (2005) TZP, RDB, 3 Idiots (a remake of a book), his wife's ode to Mumbai--Dhobi Ghat; from the nineties there was the exquisite Rangeela (1995),an absolutely delightful film.His very first film QSQT--it was a bitter-sweet Romeo-Juliet story; his early 1985 film Holi, the 1989 Raakh, the heart-warming kiddie film Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke, the comic classic Andaz Apna Apna, Raja Hindustani (a pucca Hindi film, but a hit; love it for the young and fresh Aamir, plus the music).

Ok, so these aren't original, but Indianized enough--DHKMN, JJWS (love this film absolutely, even if it's said to resemble Breaking Away, somewhat), AHAT (love this one too--a handsome young aamir, a charming manisha, great music), Ghulam (great ensemble cast, terrific performances from all; such an absolutely Indian story, despite its unacknowledged debt of gratitude to On the Waterfront); Ghajini (remade from Tamil film which was based on Memento; they should have acknowledged source).

So that's five films, not original.
Period.

Fanaa had a climax taken from The Eye of the Needle --nothing else.

And yet, Aamir Khan gets branded as CopyKhan. Bloody unfair to the man.

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I wrote this piece above before I had read all the Barfi-copycat news. So....

www.lalipond.blogspot.com

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You seem to generalize a bit too much. So, let me put this simply for you. There are two kinds of movie industries in India. The commercial ones namely 'Bollywood', 'Tollywood' and some other _ollywoods. Then there are non commercial movies being made, which concentrate more on the art of film making than the commercial aspect of it. These _ollywoods tend to pick up tried and tested formulas from other international films in order to ensure the commercial success. It wrong. And i condemn it. But, if we are talking about 'Indian movies'as a whole, then a good 80% are original.

Don't judge a book by its cover. You statement seems to address that, this one is going to a copy of an international film, no matter what. Come on! Anyone with a pea sized brain knows that you cannot simply generalize an entire country's film industry like that. I don't say, its a copy. I don't say its not. Simply because i haven't seen it. Go through the movie once or read a decent review and then you'll know. Until then, stop acting like a total douchebag.

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can we all get to the main topic, the question being asked here??

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Memories of Murder... may not be copy, might be inspired..

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Memories of Murder? Really? And that was an original masterpiece was it? I cant belive how people post any nonsense they want to. Just because there is a murder and a detective, it automatically means "inspiration"? Get a life bro.

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Klute 1971

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First up **SPOILER ALERT**, even though i haven't seen the film yet. But from the trailers, i think the plot line is of a disillusioned cop/Husband Aamir trying to solve the murder of his wife, Rani. Rani suffers from neurosis and kills their child. Aamir in a fit of rage murders her and blocks out the memory of doing so. He tries to find the murderer of his wife and slowly unravels the harsh truth. It is a copy of Shutter Island possibly. Well thats my two bit from the trailer, i might be far off from the truth.

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You are far off! It has resemblances to Sixth Sense and Insomnia but not a copy! Totally original!

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