D B Cooper


They obviously reached their conclusion prior to doing any research; a conclusion which the FBI has discounted. They cherry picked informationthat supported their conclusion, ignored information that dis-proved it, and gave contradicting info in order to support the conclsuion.

Outside research on my own uncovered a lot of information they had to have access to but ignored.

This was pretty weak.

The only other episode I saw was about the death of Meriwether Lewis. It was not as bad but follwed the same pattern.

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What sort of information did they ignore?

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The FBI agent in charge of the original investigation told the Decoded crew that the jump Cooper made woould be difficult to survive in large part because Copper jumped at night into a wooded area with the temperature being something like 17 degrees with a wind chill of minus 32 degrees while wearing a dress suit. When they asked sky divers if the jump was surviable the only paramater specified was the type of plane, air speed and the height.

The suspect was an employee Of NW airlines. The decoded code crew said he worked at the airline for a "few" years after the skyjacking. He actually worked 20 more years after the skyjacking. I can that blantant mis-representation at best.

The Decoded crew contradicted itself several time concerning what happened to the money. Remember Cooper got $200K

At the beginning of the show they made a big deal out that after the skyjacking the suspect purchased a house for himself and gave a relatibe some money to buy a house($16K and $5K if I recall correctly) and had about $160K in the bank. Tell me how much he had in the bank before the skyjacking to make this information meaningful.

Later in the show said he had an accomplice so the accomplice got little if anyhting if $180K can be attributed to the suspect.

Later in the show they mentioned the method the money was marked and because of that the suspect hid it in the attic of a house he owned later in life. Now did he bank it or hide it?

The only money that ever surfaced was about $6K a kid found in the woods around 1980. If the suspect was banking and spending it right after the skyjacking seems like the bills would have been ntoiced.

If he went to the bank with $160K in $20's after the skyjacking the bank might check out the bills.

When the suspect dies he had ovr $400K in the bank; the decoded crew ignored this.

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I really liked this episode & the Lincoln assassination episode but I do agree that the show is selective about the facts it presents. Part of it is the fact that this show still needs to entertain and that means building up drama and presenting information is a way that is more compelling than fact based. This is only the first season and I think this show has potential to be really great with some tweaking here and there.

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The Lincoln episode was the biggest insult of them all. The conspiracy was the basis for a book and movie in the 1970s http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076315/, and it was just as stupid back then as it is today. It's been proven false many times, but somehow it keeps popping up.

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I agree that the money thing really did not ring true. They came up with lots of ideas of what he could have spent the money on, but never could account for HOW he could have spent the money without any of the serial numbers being identified in the system until the kid found the $6K in the woods in the 80s. I'm assuming that not every bank checked all the serial numbers on every $20 they got, but if he was spending money on the scale they claim he was, then it would have had to shown up in the the system somewhere. Just the 16K he spent on the house would require 800 $20 bills and if nothing else, I assume that the treasury would have caught the serial numbers when the bills were old and scheduled for destruction. But not a single one EVER? To me, that's the biggest inconsistency and without any explanation of how he could possibly have pawned off the bills without any of the serials ever being caught, I kind of have to go in with the FBI theory that he didn't survive and the money has been rotting in some forest in the Pacific NW since then.

The Christiansen story is compelling, but as people have pointed out, there's definitely some cherry picking of what they tell you- like did anyone else live in the house with the secret hiding place before Kenny moved in or after he moved out? How about more detail on his financial analysis- like when did he deposit the money and how? Could just be a story about a NW Airlines flight attendant coming into an inheritance right about the time of the DB Cooper skyjacking and there was not really any evidence that the team looked for other explanations on where the money might have come from. Did they even ask other family members and friends?

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You do know the concept of a "few" means three or more...!

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actually it's more than three but not many. 20 is pretty darn close to 7 times 3. That falls under the category many.

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you have to be part of the cast or crew to come up with an argument that weak or should I say "hi, Brad"?

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What?

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He said: "you have to be part of the cast or crew to come up with an argument that weak or should I say "hi, Brad"?"

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Again, I ask: "what?"

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I have not seen this episode yet, but based on everything you have said, I would suggest you read the book "Into the Blast" by Skipp Porteous, Robert Blevins and Geoff Nelder. They give you more details in the book than probably what's in the Decoded episode. They even discuss the episode in their book. Robert Blevins is the author that was on Decoded. It's such an interesting book, and seriously, will make you think again when it comes to the theory of Kenny Christiansin being D.B. Cooper.

Highly Recommended.

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Why the hell should I read the book, I'm no the OP of this thread!


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He said: "you have to be part of the cast or crew to come up with an argument that weak or should I say "hi, Brad"?"

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Again, I ask "What?", because I have no idea who he was talking to!


Michael

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He said: "you have to be part of the cast or crew to come up with an argument that weak or should I say "hi, Brad"?"

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Again, I ask "What?", because I have no idea who he was talking to!


Michael

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The only thing that bothered me and got me to come on the boards was how they never even mentioned how he could of used the money if it was scanned

either he didn't use the money and hid it...thus having nothing to show for it or....well I don't have another scenario cause the show didn't bother with even mentioning it, struck me as odd since they seem to usually be quick to point out inconsistencies....that said it was a very interesting episode and I am really considering reading that book mentioned

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If I were you I would read some of the books that were published, amny different points of views, ideas and theories.

When it comes down to it many of the banks stopped checking the serial numbers after just months of them coming out. That's 10K serial numbers in a booklet. Can you imagine if someone wanted to deposit even 300 dollars worth of 20's and having to hand check every bill before moving onto the next customer? It would be a nightmare. It was the late 70's, the bills had to be hand checked.

So many scenerios, they could spend a whole season into this topic using leads and still not have an answer.

I actually really enjoyed the episode. As for the OP not liking the episode because the FBI thew it out the window doesn't mean much to me after reading up on the topic so much.

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First, YES, I do know the post I'm replying to is three years old. Anyway...

The decoded code crew said he worked at the airline for a "few" years after the skyjacking. He actually worked 20 more years after the skyjacking. I can that blantant mis-representation at best.
Not true. At approximately the 32 minute mark, Mack says--quite EMPHATICALLY--that Lyle (Kenny's brother) told them Kenny stayed with the airline for twenty years after the hijacking. She then says that he "hangs out at the scene of the crime for twenty years."

Copper jumped at night into a wooded area with the temperature being something like 17 degrees with a wind chill of minus 32 degrees while wearing a dress suit. When they asked sky divers if the jump was surviable the only paramater specified was the type of plane, air speed and the height.
Not exactly. When Buddy is interviewing Larry Yount, the skydiving instructor, Yount is well aware that they're talking about DB Cooper and his jump. For example, Buddy says "when he leapt, he had a bag of money weighing 22 pounds." Yount then explains that in military operations it's not unusual to leap with 150 pounds of equipment, so 22 is inconsequential. Yount tells Buddy about commercial skydiving companies where people pay extra money to "do the jump DB Cooper did." My point being, he's very much aware that they're talking about DB Cooper, so I think we can safely assume that he knows what ALL the conditions of that jump were, including the time of day and the temperature.

The FBI agent in charge of the original investigation told the Decoded crew that the jump Cooper made woould be difficult to survive in large part because Copper jumped at night into a wooded area with the temperature being something like 17 degrees with a wind chill of minus 32 degrees
No, he said it was -7 with a windchill of -69.

At the beginning of the show they made a big deal out that after the skyjacking the suspect purchased a house for himself and gave a relatibe some money to buy a house($16K and $5K if I recall correctly) and had about $160K in the bank. Tell me how much he had in the bank before the skyjacking to make this information meaningful.
Well, we know that he was earning $512 per month. We also know that according to people who knew him, he lived one type of life before the heist and a very different type of life after. I think it's quite unlikely that a person earning $512/month could magically sock away $200,000 just like that! And why did he not spend money like crazy before the heist, but only after?

Later in the show they mentioned the method the money was marked and because of that the suspect hid it in the attic of a house he owned later in life. Now did he bank it or hide it?
They said very clearly that he wouldn't have wanted to put all of it in the bank, so it follows that he may have hidden some of it.

I'm really wondering if we watched the same show, because the one I watched doesn't match up AT ALL with the one you watched!


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RugGuy, you just described most every show on History Channel. They never let the truth get in the way of a good story, or entertaining TV.

"IF THE DEVIL HAD A NAME, IT WOULD BE CHUCK FINLEY!!"

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I have a penchant for stating the obvious.

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Sadly, it's not as obvious to some people.

"IF THE DEVIL HAD A NAME, IT WOULD BE CHUCK FINLEY!!"

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