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Garbage propaganda

posted 13 years ago by michaelf
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Descriptions of this film make it sound like one of those Nazi propaganda films from the 1930’s and early 1940’s accusing Jews of all sorts of horrid crimes just to justify the Holocaust. Valley of the Wolves does the same. No, there is not a mass murder of Arabs in the , or in the West Bank, this film depicts. If there were, where are the bodies? Where are the mass graves? True, sometimes civilians get caught in the crossfire -- mainly because Hamas uses them as human shields. Having visited the Mid East, I can tell you what this film purports is all a lie and neo-fascist propaganda.

As for the film’s depiction of the Mir Marara, I saw the footage shown on Arab TV prior to setting sail where passengers were singing songs of killing Jews. The passengers were not unarmed. I saw the footage of the incident and it supports the Israeli version. Note that nothing happened with the other five ships in the flotilla. They all docked in Israel, had their cargo inspected, after which it was sent into Gaza. The IHH is not a humanitarian organization. Previous Turkish governments considered them a terrorist group. The IHH is known to have done the logistics for a failed terrorist attack at Los Angeles International Airport. Here too, the film is all lies.

[–] mustafa-yildiz-66 13 years ago

Despite I'm writing as a Turk from Turkiye, I agree most of what you say. However, you also must agree that you aren't as pure as the driven snow.

In fact, I want to say something on the other hand. In my opinion, this movie was made for just money by its producers. And what's more, when this event happened they decided to use it for getting more money. Because when it happened, they changed the scenario of the movie that already finished. And they added this event to the scenario.

Additionally, this movie became big opportunity for some men who politician or malicious. And they continue taking advantage of it against Israel, but not Jews..

NOTE: We,Türkiye, aren't enemy of Jewish people. If you search our history, you can easily find how much help them. We are just angry with Israel policies.. And a few Turkish guy's opinions doesn't mean whole Turkiye's opinions.

Best regards..

[–] saarvardi 13 years ago

Mustsafa, as an Israeli guy, it was nice reading your last paragraph. Just so you know: nobody here really wanted your men killed. They were offered a chance to peacefully be escorted to Israel, with a guarantee that their supplies will be given to the Palestinians in Gaza. Also, they were told there was a blockade in place, which was meant to defend the people of Israel against potential weapon shipments to the Hamas in Gaza. Unfortunately, they didn't listen - and they actually attacked the soldiers that came unboard to impose the blockade. It was only after these soldiers were put in life threatening danger that they were forced to respond.

I wish this whole incident wouldn't have taken place at all. Our fight is with the terrorist Hamas organization who has taken over the Gaza strip and used its people and territory to wage a hateful war against Israel, with missles and rockets fired with no particular reason towards Southern Israel - even though there has been no Israeli ocupation of the Gaza Strip ever since August 2005. Anyway, the Turks have always been our friends and were never meant to be part of this fight. If the people aboard the Mavi Marmara would have tried a more diplomatic approach from the get-go, this could have all been avoided.

[–] sagheero 13 years ago

" It was only after these soldiers were put in life threatening danger that they were forced to respond."

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Owner of Middle Earth!

[–] cinesimon 13 years ago

What childish, ignorant drivel.
Critique the film, sure. Don't like it. Consider it biased.
But by comparing it to Nazi propaganda, you not only take a dump on the victims of Nazi atrocities(a common trait of right wing sociopathy), you highlight your ignorance and gleeful right wing extremism - and your likely tendency toward the new Israeli and right wing racism and abject hatred toward Arabs and Persians.
More and more Israeli and right wing leaders and their gullible supporters are calling them cockroaches, more and more idiots like you call them savages and Nazis.
If you want to find a modern day Nazi, just look in the mirror, kiddo.
Now you go on and celebrate the killings of civilians, including hundreds of children, merely because they're Palestinian - and therefore, apparently, nothing but savages - or at most: the Nazis of the future.
Because apparently, you of the hard right believe in Eugenics.
And of course, the PR department of the IDF serves as your news desk - apparently the fact that no news outlets are ever allowed to try to confirm their claims, and those who do get through get shot forthwith, is no issue for ignorant idiots like yourself.
You would have been right at home in 1930s Germany, cheering in the beer halls.
"Caught in the crossfire".
"Human shields".
How gullible you are. That, or you're just plain lying.
I wonder: do you have one of those IDF T-shorts advocating and celebrating the murder of pregnant Palestinians, two "savages" dead with one bullet?

[–] murad23 9 years ago

Right wing sociopathy?

The Nazis were socialists and statists.

By the way I am Turkish descent as well and this film is a DISGUSTING mass of anti-Semitism.

It is YOU who would be at home in 1930's Germany