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Amanda Knox innocent or guilty?


I've been wondering what everyone else thinks, because I can't decide whether or not I think she's guilty. A part of me thinks she is, but another part of me thinks she's innocent. I was talking with my mom about it before this movie went on the air, and she said she thinks Amanda Knox is guilty but she probably just doesn't remember killing Meredith because she was on drugs, but wasn't she only smoking marijuana? Marijuana doesn't make you kill.

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No, marijuana doesn't make you kill, and Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito had nothing to do with the murder. They got caught up in a police rush to judgment that had police arresting them along with another man, Patrick Lumumba, for dubious reasons four days after the murder. Two weeks later the real killer, Rudy Guede, was caught. They should have let all three of them go, but they couldn't bring themselves to admit the bizarre theory that had gotten them headlines all over the world was in fact bunk. So they let Patrick go and tried to pretend Raffaele and Amanda helped Rudy, when there's no reason to think that, either.

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They're guilty to proven innocent...that's how they handle it there.

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Marijuana doesn't make you kill? Did you learn nothing from Reefer Madness? MURDER INSANITY DEATH! LMAO!!! All that aside she's probably innocent, or at least ought to be presumed so until PROVEN guilty, which didn't happen in that court. She would not have been convicted in a British court, and our justice system is far from perfect.

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Don't forget Italian adults see many American women come into their country and mess around with Italian men to fulfill sexual fantasies the very same way American men do with women in the Philippines. The foreign students in Perugia also have a reputation for hard partying with drink and marijuana, as both Amanda and Meredeth indulged in. (Had Amanda ended up dead would Meredeth be the one being dragged in front of the cameras, pictures of her dressed as a Vampire at Halloween and cavorting around with her Italian boyfriend in his marijuana garden as "proof" she was guilty?) This causes great resentment in Italian women who see the "floozies" stealing their men, and more conservative adults in Italy over the girls behavior. A college age female discovering her roommate murdered would be eyed with far more suspicion there than at a Big Ten school in America where police familiar with a pattern of local men preying on college students with property and sex crimes. This case was not patiently investigated the way the police stood back and built a case against Scott Peterson. Rather they rushed to judgment and psychologically terrorized the two kids whom they assumed guilty into making some conflicting remarks and then declared the case closed. (What nearly happened in the Richard Jewell case, only Jewell being older, familiar with law enforcement, and had a lawyer avoided making Rafaelle's and Amanda's mistakes. We now know Eric Rudolph did it, Jewell stayed out of jail, but did have his reputation ruined and went bankrupt from the false accusations.) Of course two weeks later the evidence came back indicating it was mundane burglary gone wrong by a know petty criminal. But in almost a mass insanity, both the prosecutor and public refused to believe it, preferring to be told "witch" tales about a girl next store gone wrong. Just read up about the burglaries Guede had been caught committing in the weeks before, all by himself, and there is very little reason to believe this was anything other than a simple break in that escalated to rape and murder. Guede had threatened a man who caught him breaking in his house with a knife, was caught inside a school also carrying a knife, and had stolen property from a Perugia break in where the burglar threw a rock through a second story window and climbed in. The exact same thing that happened at the cottage, no need for a "faked break in."

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Don't forget Italian adults see many American women come into their country and mess around with Italian men to fulfill sexual fantasies the very same way American men do with women in the Philippines. The foreign students in Perugia also have a reputation for hard partying with drink and marijuana, as both Amanda and Meredeth indulged in. (Had Amanda ended up dead would Meredeth be the one being dragged in front of the cameras, pictures of her dressed as a Vampire at Halloween and cavorting around with her Italian boyfriend in his marijuana garden as "proof" she was guilty?) This causes great resentment in Italian women who see the "floozies" stealing their men, and more conservative adults in Italy over the girls behavior.


This sort of conjecture is just as flawed as the kind the prosecution used to establish how and why Sollecito and Knox were at the crime scene and helped to commit the murder. Can you actually substantiate any of what you've said with an impartial source? Meredith Kercher consumed marijuana? Have you tapped into the consciousness of Italian women for that piece of insight? I'm astonished that many people have simply made up their minds on innuendo, tabloid tittle-tattle and rather erroneous evidence. The latter includes rather poor application of forensic science and dubious circumstantial evidence. I hope people who are so easily led never end up on a juror's bench.

If impersonating a Police Officer is an offence, shouldn't actors be imprisoned?

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GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY!!

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Amanda is innocent. It's impossible to place Amanda and her boyfriend at the scene. There is no evidence that suggests they were there. And if you think the bra clasp and knife are reliable pieces of evidence, you are doing the exact same thing as the corrupt prosecutors that tried to force evidence to make sense of their crazy sex theory. This girl has had a whole country slander her name and reputation so badly that it coerced a whole jury to become blind to the actual evidence and vote a guilty verdict, just like the interrogators coerced a false statement that Amanda was at the flat and the killer was Patrik. In my opinion this whole case is a joke and it steals the attention away from a more serious matter; the death of Meredith. She was a beautiful intelligent girl who had a life of opportunity ahead of her and all the sole murderer recieved as punishment was 16 years. Pathetic. The legal authorities should be ashamed of themselves.

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The hooligan trolls arguments sound like this:

"How do you know Nicole Brown Simpson's Sister didn't come over to her apartment when her, OJ, and Ron Goldman were all talking. And then when OJ got up to go to the Bathroom, Nicole's Sister jumped up and slit her and Ron Goldman's throat? Disprove That!"

The way I see it, there isn't even a motive. If Meredeth Kercher had taken out a two million dollar life insurance policy with Amanda Knox being her main beneficiary just days before, then it would make sense to suddenly investigate Amanda and eavesdrop on all her communications from day one as if she were Pablo Escobar or John Gotti. But there was not even a fight between her and Meredeth, no history of S&M, no catfights with past roommates. That she and the computer nerd could become prime suspects hours after the crime is just retarded and bad police work. For god's sake, We've even got the killer! A serial burglar who had been in a knife fight. What more do they need before they let them go? If two innocent kids weren't in jail this case would be almost funny.

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I think she's guilty. Plain and simple.

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I think she's guilty.

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But why do you guys think she guilty?

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The motive was built around her dislike for Meredith.

Meredith wanted to move out. They were friends at first but after Amanda showed how she took drugs regularly and slept around with men freely, Meredith started to keep her distance and made friends with the majority of students who were there to study.

The motive was built on Amanda's loneliness and lack of solid female companions.

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The motive was built around her dislike for Meredith.

Meredith wanted to move out. They were friends at first but after Amanda showed how she took drugs regularly and slept around with men freely, Meredith started to keep her distance and made friends with the majority of students who were there to study.

The motive was built on Amanda's loneliness and lack of solid female companions.


Where did you get all of that from? This is baseless supposition.

If impersonating a Police Officer is an offence, shouldn't actors be imprisoned?

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Not Guilty. The whole story is conjecture on the prosecution's part, there is no actual evidence. I can't believe there are people out there who actually think she's guilty based on the sh*tty police investigation and lab work. Now the parents have been indicted for talking publicly about Amanda's treatment while being questioned? Damn.... I guess they don't believe in freedom of speech over there.

I wish Amanda and Raffaele all the best in their appeal.


One more thing.... I think people weighing in here should state what country they are from. I'm from the United States.





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The whole story is conjecture on the prosecution's part, there is no actual evidence.

Horsesh*t. Knox's DNA was found mixed with Kercher's blood in Filomena's room. They didn't find Filomena's DNA mixed with Kercher's blood as it should have been using the same stupid argument that Knox's DNA was everywhere in the flat.

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Amanda lived there of course her DNA is everywhere in the flat, that's not considered as "standard evidence."

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They didn't test for Filomena's DNA in any of the mixed DNA samples found. They tested for Amanda's because she was already a suspect, and her DNA ended being there. There could be others' DNA in the 'mix' as well but they didn't test for it.

And in reality its not uncommon for someone's DNA to be in all the rooms of a house, especially on the floor. Its would actually be weird not to find it.

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You seem to miss the point in "test".

They find DNA and seek a match. If they had found DNA they couldn't match then they would have looked elsewhere. That's what you do in forensics all around the world.

Yes?
OK. Thanks. Nice to clear that up.

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GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY

I hope Amanda enjoys eating garlic pussy in Italian prison!

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One thing that i've found extremely agitating is the supporters of the prosecution all say that they have a good case against Amanda and Raffael, when in reality.. They don't have *beep* They use the same argument over and over "Read the Massei report, it is the truth!" when in reality, it only fuels the garbage the prosection is spewing out. Amanda must have killed Meredith because she's a drug addict that bought her weed from Rudy Guede *beep* I could really go on for days, but it won't bring any justice to the people that are rotting in jail right now. Thinking about Rudy Guede being released before Amanda and Sollecito is seriously horrifying. How many more lives will be ruined by this injustice?


Cram it with walnuts, ugly!

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If the case was in an American court, and I was a juror I'd have to rule not guilty. There is just too much subjective evidence and not enough objective evidence, a smoking gun if you will, to rule her guilty. Outside a courtroom, though I do have questions.

What about the store worker claiming to seen them buying cleaning chemicals that morning.

The mixing of blood is curious.

Why no DNA in the room, did they do a great job of cleaning or were they never actually there.

Again motive is fairly weak in this case.

There are other questions I have just can't think of them off the top of my head.

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GUILTY. I have no doubt.

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hanging out on truejustice.org are we? Do you realize the guy that runs that site is a complusive liar that intentionally writes things he knows isn't true.

EX: There was no cleanup, nor did they find amanda and raffaelle's footprints leaving Meredith's room.

Why don't you try thinking for yourself?

Cram it with walnuts, Ugly!

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hanging out on truejustice.org are we? Do you realize the guy that runs that site is a complusive liar that intentionally writes things he knows isn't true.


I know - it's almost as crazy as just posting links to some weird nutcase woman trying to sell a book!

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She was totally guilty, too bad she can't be executed.



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i think the motive did seem odd to me.if she is innocent i wonder if amanda has some mental problems with the way she acted after her roommate died and with the pressures with the police.

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I think there's a reasonable chance she was guilty. Lets get the facts straight she and her boyfriend both lied to investigators about the night of the murder and she even accused an innocent person. I dont buy the argument that she was pressured into lying.

If you are innocent then you would cooperate and not lie. They asked to be wrongfully convicted if in fact they were innocent.

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" I dont buy the argument that she was pressured into lying. "

Why else do we have recorded police interviews these days?

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