The user rating at this moment: 83% of the voters (close to 11,300 people, presumably all Turkish) give a score of 10. That's way more than the top movies in the imdb top 250. Movies with such an uneven division of grades shouldn't even be included in any imdb-lists (other than personal lists). It's more chauvinism than a serious judgement of the quality of the movie.
sharethat is the reason why this movie IS NOT in the imdb top 250...
shareI know they don't include movies with a suspicious user rating like this in the imdb top 250, but it is (at the moment) still listed among the top 50 of this decade.
shareto counter the effect, I give it a 5, which is probably a deserved rating.
Feel free to counter them jamark, by voting it a zero. Then find 11,000 Greek friends and have them do the same.
You are a joke. Why care? Obsess much? Obviously so...
I'm a true blooded American. I've yet to see the film, but I can see clearly that the controllers of Istanbul right now, are the ones that should be the owners. What a shame if the city was still greek, it would be a cess pool of Euro trash and broken currencies.
So everyone who hates this movie is a greek?
I am sure almost no greek has even heard of this movie..
This movie is simply bad
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Your reasoning is way off. And I don't see much sense in arguing with you if you haven't figured out that the IMDB ratings are worthless per se.
- The fact that users see the current rating before placing their own vote creates a strong bias
- national pride is typically counter-weighted by a over-critical view towards the dialogue and acting of "national" actors
- since the movie hasn't leaked, moviegoers are primarily those that really look forward to seeing the movie. Duh!
I am not Turkish, but from the looks of it, this could be one of the movies I would give a 10/10.
So crawl back into your 1950's bomb-shelter and watch some non-chauvinistic 1930's black-n-white Hitch-cock movies.
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Life's too short for mediocrity
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In my experience movies like this will plummet eventually once more non-Turkish viewers get to see it.
shareThat is if anyone else ever sees it. There are a lot of Turkish movies in the top 1000 that have no right to be there. It's so bizarre.
shareHave you seen any of them? If not, please don't comment. What gives you the right to claim "they have no right to be there".
Because like Fetih they most probably are not very good films on any other than Turkish standards?
What clichés? Thats a word the wannabe critics use when they want to whinge.share
This can go on forever, the "worthiness" of any movie to be shown on American cinema. There are whole lot of crap that's on silver screen nowadays, I cannot believe people pay $12 to see them.
sharein last decade there isnt more than 5 american movie worth to watch So Americans gives 10 dollar same story line thousend time, this is no diffirent from them. Fetih is just cheap version indeginous blockbuster beta test. I think Everybody should watch Nuri bilge Ceylan , Semih Kaplanoğlu and Fatih Akin then should make comments about Turkish Cinema.
shareExcept that no one will ever see this gross piece of ottoman propagande except the Turks.
share"I am not Turkish, but from the looks of it, this could be one of the movies I would give a 10/10. "
Seen it yet? I really wanted this to be a good movie since I went to Istanbul in September and loved the history of the city, but this is nothing but propaganda. Too bad because it's a great story that could have been done well and still have a positive slant towards the Ottomans. This movie was like watching a live action cartoon.
I am of turkish origin and live in Germany.
I just watched the movie and i gave it a 6/10, and i was glad, i did not watch it in a movie theater.
Here is my reasoning:
- Story has many flaws
- Good Guy / Bad Guy plot too shallow and unbelievable.
- mediocre acting, but mainly because of the flaws in the story. The actors could have done better and made the best of thei roles.
- italian bad guy, and turkish good guy speak the same language (as do the emperor and sultan too)?
- lots of clishés worked into the story
- some decent special effects and fighting scenes (some crapp ones too).
Overall i would say it is a mediocre action movie.
Of course big parts of the story are just fiction.
The people that are criticising the turkish imdb voters should keep one thing in mind:
- A movie is created for a certain audience. If that audience likes the movie, then the purpose of the movie is fulfilled. The greeks, or christians in general are not used to see the islamic or turkish side as the winner/good guys in a movie. So it is understandable, that they see it as propaganda. But if you compare such a storyline to the average american action movie, you see the same there very often. Bad Japanese, Arabs, Germans, etc.
Same stuff, different color...
If you are an action move fan, and are unbiased against a pro turkish movie, you can whatch it. But it is not such a good movie. Slightly above average.
People need to stop giving average movies a 10 rating just out of national pride. otherwise the whole rating system becomes a joke. I'm betting 90% of those that gave it a 10 haven't even seen it yet nor ever will. Please people, if you have any pride in yourselves, don't be like sheep and up vote a movie based upon where it was made.
shareOf course Turks will vote it.
%90 of American movie voters are Americans..
Can we judge a movie based on voters it gets?
what a silly statement.
But it's OK for the votes for most movies to be 2/3 from males and/or US voters?
Yours is a common gripe, although most usually aimed at 'Bollywood' films these days. An Indian film appears in the top 250, and suddenly the boards fill with indignant Americans complaining about how 'Indians always overrate their films'. But never any complaints when the latest Marvel film appears in the top 250, and yet another time-tested classic has to step aside to make way for it.
Sadly, IMDB voting long ago became a game, where so many people don't vote based on what they thought, but rather where they think something's overall rating should be. They think it deserves 8, but the rating is currently 6, better give it a 10 to try and 'even things out'. It's why even a rating of 'only' 7/10 is considered a 'bad' score by so many now, a score that rings alarm bells.
Or perhaps this film just speaks to people of a particular culture in a way that it could never possibly speak to you.
Never defend crap with 'It's just a movie'
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