Boxing for self-defense


Yes, I'm brazenly using this thread to discuss BOXING FOR SELF-DEFENSE.

Incredible as it seems, you can Google, 'boxing for self-defense' and come up with a slew of information that confirms, yes, western boxing is indeed highly effective for self-defense. And yet, western boxing has not been promoted as a system of empty-hand self-defense. Still, in some western countries, including the U.S., you had better be very prudent about when and how to apply your boxing skills in self-defense because the courts consider your boxing skills equivalent to using a deadly weapon in a fight. That is, inadvertently kill a punk who jumped you outside a bar with his buddies and you can find yourself in jail for three years. You even see that demonstrated in a movie where actor, Nicholas Cage, an Army vet home on leave, gets followed out of a bar by an aggressive punk emboldened by having two of his buddies with him. (Bullying punks almost always never act alone.) The punk takes a swing at Cage who responds with trained, hand-to-hand combat fighting techniques. The punk goes down but dies. The local judge throws Cage in jail for excessive use of deadly force against an unarmed man. If you think that was only Hollywood, think again. That was based on real-life U.S. laws regulating self-defense. Yes, American laws restrict what you can and cannot do during self-defense because as the victim, you are still regarded as a law-abiding citizen who has to follow the legal rules. Your attacker, considered the law-breaker, has no legal restrictions because he has already placed himself outside the law. This is no longer the American Old West where any kind and any amount of force used in self-defense was legal.

I'll jump the gun and admit that western boxing does fall short in defense against hand weapons such as, knives, clubs, chains, for example. A studio that taught boxing for self-defense would have to borrow from Asian martial arts.

I was pleased to learn that western boxing is effective against multiple opponents and tactically did not require complicated moves or strategy. If you doubt it, there are YouTube videos showing guys with only elementary knowledge of boxing successfully defending themselves against multiple opponents. I'd love to talk more about that here, but that would digress.

You don't have to put a lot of time in the ring if you're not going to practice amateur or professional boxing but you will have to spend time sparring to gain proficiency in the fundamentals of western boxing. But once you've learned the fundamentals, it's like bicycling; you never forget. Naturally the better physical shape you're in the better your boxing skills but nonetheless, you still have the boxing knowledge.

Unlike most traditional Asian martial arts that rely predominantly on kata, not counting judo, jujutsu, and today's MMA, you will be used to feeling how your punch lands and how to cope getting punched.

If I could live my life over again, I'd learn boxing just for fun, self-defense, and physical fitness. I remember that as a teen I had no interest in getting my face punched over and over again.

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What happened in Con air was a farce, Killing is supposed to be legal if its SELF DEFENSE. I think if someone attacks you violently you have a right to defend yourself even if you have an unfair advantage against your attacker. If you attack someone the burden of risk is on you.

If I was president or governor in the fictional world of Con Air I would have pardoned him.

An even more unfair thing happened in the Val Kilmer movie FELON where a guy goes to prison for several years for killing a burglar who broke into his home.

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You don't have to convince me. I was preaching to the 'choir'.

Like you, if it was up to me, the burden of proof would be on the attacker. I don't know just how dangerous that potential attacker/mugger/rapist is going to be. I'm going to defend my with 100% effort and if the a$$hole who attacks me gets killed, that was his fault, not mind.

Ahhh...the courts do not see it that way.

The legal principle of self-defense throughout the land is, "You may use only that reasonable amount of force necessary to stop an attack upon your person and no more. You may only apply that reasonable amount of force to stop a physical attack that a reasonable person would take."

In California a 'Castle Law' passed in 1987 to protect innocent people in their homes. If someone breaks into your house, the law gives you the benefit of the doubt if you use deadly force upon the intruder. That is, the law assumes the intruder is a law breaker intend on committing harm to you and your family. This was in response to homeowners shooting intruders, burglars, house-breakers, home invaders, etc. and they turned out to be either unarmed, armed with a non-firearm weapon, e.g. screwdriver, knife, club, etc. Before this, zealous district attorneys were bringing charges of involuntary manslaughter on the unfortunate home resident who shot and killed the intruder(s). There are caveats. The intruder(s) cannot be your relatives. Your house must have been secured for the night, locked up, including windows, which gets dicey because most people leave their windows open at night during summertime for air ventilation, sometimes even in late spring and early autumn.

To make it fair, the law is very cautious about determining self-defense because most often, murderers will claim self-defense to escape justice. If you kill someone in self-defense, which technically you have a legal right, the onus is still on you to proved the homicide was justified. In other words, guilty until proven innocent. If you cannot sufficiently justify your use of force, especially lethal force, expect some significant jail time for involuntary manslaughter or manslaughter, possible 2nd degree homicide.

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If you really want unfair on the HBO TV series OZ filmed close to two decades ago one of the inmates HAMID KHAN rescued a woman from a sicko rapist who was attacking her and beat the guy almost to death and that was why he was in prison. That so never sat right with me. If he had been white and the rapist had been black and the rape (or attempted rape) victim had also been white I wonder how it would have played out?

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If you had to learn any discipline for self defense, jiu-jitsu would be it, It was proven king of martial arts years ago... UFC 1-4 anyone?

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Likelihood that you are fat = high

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