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This show is proof that modern music SUCKS!!


They just had to pick that "hip-hopish" garbage that Scotty's team spit out instead a genuinely well written song. There is no way in hell Scotty's song was better. Third week in a row we get a terrible decision by the judges.

They're not looking for a song writer on this show, they're looking for someone they can market.

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I think the judges are just asking for too much. They expect the contestants to be musicians, producers, writers, singers, and performers- I thought this was supposed to be about writing a platinum hit and not everything else.

Seven episodes in and I still laugh at the whole, "If you'd like to purchase..."

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I think the judges are just asking for too much. They expect the contestants to be musicians, producers, writers, singers, and performers
you are absolutely right. obviously they're writers, but they should (at the very least) be musicians who can carry a tune.

they shouldn't be asked to perform -- but again, they're looking for someone who can put out a record, sooo...the formula was flawed from the start.

as far as producers, i can't understand why they're expected to do that, either. for one, i've been using Pro Tools for years (the software they're recording on) and from the few screen shots i glimpse it looks like they're using the 'light' (i.e. most dumbed-down) version of it -- even if your forte is audio production, you're still fairly limited by what you're able to do. they might as well ask them to produce a Top 40 hit using GarageBand.

furthermore, even if you successfully pitch a song, whoever produces it is going to put their own touch on it. if the track is heavily electronic, i get it...but if you're looking for a great songwriter, you should be looking for someone who doesn't rely on technology to write a song.

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I'm completely MINDBOGGLED as to how they thought scotty, nick and sonyea's song was even remotely good. It was sooooo forgettable, not catchy and just LAME. Nick's fake English accent was just plain stupid. Their song was complete and utter garbage. Nick is by far the most untalented one there and I have not seen one thing he has done that has been good. i do not see how anyone thinks he is talented at all. the past couple weeks make me not want to watch the show anymore.

"And I'll leave you in this room to ROT!"

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Nick is by far the most untalented one there and I have not seen one thing he has done that has been good. i do not see how anyone thinks he is talented at all.
are his own hooks bland, trite and identical in style week-in and week-out?? yes.

does he constantly display unprofessional behavior?? yes.

is he untalented?? ...i wouldn't necessarily say that.

i've actually grown to appreciate Nick over the last few weeks because he is an excellent collaborator who brings good ideas to the table. the funny thing is, his own original hooks are dull, but put him within the confines of an existing song or hook and he finds some way to elevate it, every single time. he understands music trends, which is important for pop songwriters; and as it was said numerous times throughout the series, he is very receptive and good to work with in the studio.

his ego certainly needs to be kept in check, but his douchebaggery is actually considered less of a travesty, IMHO, when compared to Johnny shutting him out of a songwriting session or Brian's habit of non-collaboration.

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I agree joey...that song sucked...as did the one this week and last....ugh
my dad, never liked you..

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Can you criticize the song beyond being "hip hopish" garbage.

You obviously have a prejudice against rap and hip hop, as indicated historically in your posts.

I wouldn't even classify the song as hip hop. Nonetheless I thought some of the lyrics were interesting..and certainly it was empowering for gay people. It could have been better.

Jes and Brian's song also had some good lyrics and some not good lyrics. It didn't seem empowering enough -- which was the challenge -- and the judges called them on that.

It was hard for me...I thought the two songs were about even (and neither were transcendent), but I gave the edge to Brian and Jes because to me their song resonated more on an emotional level.

So, while I agree that Brian's song might have been better and that modern music "sucks," I find your genre prejudice disgusting.

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"I find your genre prejudice disgusting"

Cry me a river.

I may be harsh on certain genres of music but that is my opinion and I will stick with it.

Scotty and Sonyae's song sucked and even they knew it.

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They just had to pick that "hip-hopish" garbage that Scotty's team spit out instead a genuinely well written song. There is no way in hell Scotty's song was better.
i completely disagree. Scotty's song was better, even with a very weak bridge and the rap part.

for once i actually agreed with the judges, in that the chorus melody was distinct (even when Nick was singing it in the studio, i was yelling at the TV that Scotty and Sonyae were dismissing it...even by itself you could tell it was catchy).

having said that, i don't necessarily think Scotty's song was strong. Brian's song lost its most poignant parts in transitioning to a Pink-type song -- the chords were essentially the same on his acoustic but all the interesting characteristics were lost when he simply played them as power chords on an electric. the only strong part of the song was the interlude instrument melody and the chorus melody/harmony/lyrics. the verses Jess wrote were extremely dull, but Brian did deserve to go home just like Johnny for not collaborating.

the funny thing is (and i can't remember for sure) but i think anytime someone has had the opportunity to have an extra writer on their team and passed they have never won. i've always thought that was foolish -- even if personalities collide in the studio, three minds are better than two, especially when one of them likes to focus completely on one thing and not even attempt to collaborate.

They're not looking for a song writer on this show, they're looking for someone they can market.
you just now picked that up?? i've been saying it for weeks -- that's the reason why Sonyae has the best shot to win it all. it's also why a record deal should not have been part of the grand prize -- it takes away from the actual 'writing' part of the show.

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rj-b said :


the funny thing is (and i can't remember for sure) but i think anytime someone has had the opportunity to have an extra writer on their team and passed they have never won. i've always thought that was foolish -- even if personalities collide in the studio, three minds are better than two, especially when one of them likes to focus completely on one thing and not even attempt to collaborate.



I actually think Brian avoided Nick as strategy to send him home. As the top winner of the hook challenge it certainly did bode well for him to win. He might have been thinking if he wins, he spares Nick by choosing him.

I spent most of the show thinking Scotty would lose and Nick would go home based on how the songs were coming together. Lo and behold, the judges crown Nick the top contributor of the group -- so I guess if Scotty had lost, then either Sonyae or Scotty would have gone home. Perish the thought.

They are two favorites of the judges. I almost think the judges chose Scotty's team because they didn't want to set Sonyae or Scotty up to go home.

Jess, to me, was the weakest link and should have gone. For her to whine about writing alone lyrically when paired with Brian when Sonyae was put in the same situation last episode and triumphed was weak. But oh well.

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Jess, to me, was the weakest link and should have gone. For her to whine about writing alone lyrically when paired with Brian when Sonyae was put in the same situation last episode and triumphed was weak. But oh well.
i completely agree. but Brian screwed himself the same way Johnny did -- by getting too immersed in the song trying to make it 'perfect' by his own standards (EDIT: without working with his partner).

i can't remember one hook or song contribution Jess has provided that i liked. she's been the weakest for three or four weeks and she's still there, by the skin of her teeth. i can't imagine she'll make it past next week writing a song by herself -- but then again, Sonyae will have quite a challenge writing her own arrangement considering she can't play an instrument...

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Scotty's song was better, even with a very weak bridge and the rap part


The rap part didn't even fit the song, it was a trainwreck. Sometimes I can tolerate rap when it fits the song but that came out of left field.

for once i actually agreed with the judges


Well, I've been very disappointed in their decisions over the last 3 weeks.

the chords were essentially the same on his acoustic but all the interesting characteristics were lost when he simply played them as power chords on an electric


I don't see how that makes it a bad song. It's not like a song's chord progression is going to change when you transfer from acoustic to electric. I thought the guitar parts were well constructed and fit the vocals/melody rather well.


but Brian did deserve to go home just like Johnny for not collaborating.


Johnny made a bad decision to cut Nick out of the writting process but this is getting down to the finals... its time to pick the stronger song writers and obviously the judges aren't going to do this.

you just now picked that up??
i've been saying it for weeks


I know, but do they have to make it so damn obvious? Come on... you cannot tell me with a straight face that Nick is a better song writer than the last 3 people that have gotten eliminated.

It's just disgusting what the judges are doing. Basically, this show has become a poetry contest, which this actually makes it easier for the judges to pick and choose who they want to eliminate, if they judged the song's entirety there is no way we would have seen the last 3 eliminations go down the way they did. Nick is one of the weaker lyrical writers left and he's still here? go figure...

that's the reason why Sonyae has the best shot to win it all.


I don't mind if Sonyae wins, I like her but it's becomming quite clear that she is going to win. Its too predictable at this point...

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I don't see how that makes it a bad song. It's not like a song's chord progression is going to change when you transfer from acoustic to electric. I thought the guitar parts were well constructed and fit the vocals/melody rather well.
i'm not saying the chords didn't fit -- i'm saying simple power chords make it more boring, especially when it didn't punch the way he intended it to. i even specified the chord progression didn't change, but instead of playing (pardon my music theory coming out here) a ii7 chord like he did in the actual hook presentation, Brian played a ii power chord...considering the arrangement was fairly sparse harmonically, he needed something to help fill it in.

take Pink's 'Raise Your Glass', for example...the chorus is all power chords, but the verses at least have slightly more intricate guitar to them, repetitive as it may be. that helps differentiate the portions of the song so it doesn't sound stagnant the entire time.

its time to pick the stronger song writers and obviously the judges aren't going to do this.
with the exception of Jess, i'd say the others deserve to be there based on what they've provided during the team challenges. obviously it's a matter of preference and not every viewer is going to be happy with who remains...obviously you are one of them. that's not a knock to you, but we shouldn't act like we know more than people who do this for a living.

Come on... you cannot tell me with a straight face that Nick is a better song writer than the last 3 people that have gotten eliminated.
i never said anything to the contrary. but i've said several times he's a better collaborator than the rest.

Nick is one of the weaker lyrical writers left and he's still here? go figure... []
i'll admit the judges have been contradictory at times and they conveniently choose what's more important at different times...but again, Nick has made very good contributions to songs that elevate them, whether it be something as simple as his 'paint this club' rap under the chorus or an entire hook melody.

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but we shouldn't act like we know more than people who do this for a living


I wouldn't say I know more than Jewel (or Kara) because I consider Jewel to be one of the best song writers of the modern era, that being said, I'm still disappointed with the way she judges these people. you could make a good argument that Kara doeen't know that much about good music but she can atleast say she's co-written numerous top 40 hits and even if they are considered by many as "pop music garbage" she was able to do it.

i'm saying simple power chords make it more boring,


I suppose that's a matter of opinion. I liked it but it's understandable that someone else might not. Same with Rap, I don't like it but if other people do, thats fine, I won't bash them even if I do often wonder "why" people listen to it. And its not like Last Candle is a "great" song but I its certainly better than Reign.

And have you listend to the new recordings on the Facebook site yet? They actually took out the rap part of Reign. Why am I not surprised?

Last Candle still sounds better.

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(and to be fair, the winner will possibly be joining a songwriting team that focuses 100% on the modern music you hate so much. there's a reason why the remaining contestants are all pop-oriented in some way, and all the folk/country people are gone. i think the latter were essentially screwed from the get-go, whether they knew it or not -- which is another reason this show has essentially failed, whether viewers recognize that or not.)

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the winner will possibly be joining a songwriting team that focuses 100% on the modern music you hate so much.


You act like I'm the only one that thinks modern music sucks. There are millions out there that agree with me.

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...actually, i wasn't acting like that at all -- merely pointing out that The Writing Camp is pretty consistent in writing for pop acts (read: "modern music").

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