Ten Million $ Budget--- $369,036 Box Office Gross - 50 to 1 (2023) Discussion

Is this YOUR money?

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[–] AFishCalledRhonda 10 years ago

Is this YOUR money?

Not one penny Thank GOD! lol

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I have to ask...

WHY? Why do you hate Skeet so much? Why? Why post such negative and insulting language? I suspect you might say, "Because I can". But what drives a person to spend so much time hating? I understand spending time loving....but hating? What is your motivation?

If you invested as much time doing something positive, ANYTHING positive, you could really accomplish something noble.

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[–] cathy-bergeron 10 years ago

Hi Rhonda,

Long time, no see. Hope all is well with you. Any chance you could you have or could provide some sources for your numbers or at least where you saw or heard them? They don't match what I've heard and seen.

Thanks!

-Cathy

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[–] AFishCalledRhonda 10 years ago

Cathy I got those numbers right off the imdb page itself. This movie was the biggest joke. Total bomb. It wont even make back a fraction of it's shooting budget. So sad.

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[–] cathy-bergeron 10 years ago

As you know, those are not final numbers even for the promo tour. As I suspect you know, more than those numbers will go into the "final" ledger.

Just curious, did you see the movie or are your "biggest joke" and "total bomb" remarks based on your previously expressed opinions?

Have you seen any of the the contractual documents for the movie? If not, you couldn't possibly know know what this movie will make back from any portion of it's budget. -cjb

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[–] AFishCalledRhonda 10 years ago

As you know, those are not final numbers even for the promo tour. As I suspect you know, more than those numbers will go into the "final" ledger.

You asked the question where i got the numbers from obviously assuming I was making them up.....and I answered your question. Now you want to say "well...that's not the final numbers". As if I didn't know that since the movie just started it's tour of what? 12 theaters willing to play it twice around the country lol

Just curious, did you see the movie or are your "biggest joke" and "total bomb" remarks based on your previously expressed opinions?
No....just like the rest of the popularion's majority...I wont be spending any money on this silly movie. I'm putting my money into Captain America. An awesome movie that broke box office records.....because it was just that good.

Have you seen any of the the contractual documents for the movie? If not, you couldn't possibly know know what this movie will make back from any portion of it's budget. -cjb LMAO Cathy honestly. Stop trying so hard. I know what the movie's budget was and so do you. I know what the movie cost to make. So do you. And I know what it's bring in as it moves right along to DVD (which will be rather quickly) and so do you. And after it hits dvd I'll know what the dvd sales are from this film and so will you. Because that information is made public. So stop with all the nit picking. This movie was a box office disaster. If you want to keep denying that just because you're a skeet fan go right ahead. but it's not going to help. Skeet was in some successful movies. Scream As Good As It gets. The Newton Boys. And he was in some major suck ass bombs. Some even HE admits to Chill Factor. And this one is included. When he was doing the press for Chill Factor he wasn't so open with his nagative opinions on that flick either. Now that it's safe to admit it was a failure...he does....... and surely in a couple years from now he'll be talking about the stupid bus trip he took to promote the tanking horse movie he did. but for now....he's talking a good and deep line of BS about warm fuzzy family feel good films and walking the line for this bomb. He's paid to grin and bare it. Shame you don't know that. There's no Easter Bunny either... or does that spoil the week for you too?

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[–] cathy-bergeron 10 years ago

<<You asked the question where i got the numbers from obviously assuming I was making them up>>

Rhonda,

That is a completely and totally false assumption on your part and it borders on an outright lie.

<<I wont be spending any money on this silly movie. I'm putting my money into Captain America. An awesome movie that broke box office records.....because it was just that good.>>

Well, good for you. Have fun.

<<Have you seen any of the the contractual documents for the movie? If not, you couldn't possibly know know what this movie will make back from any portion of it's budget. -cjb>>

ME: I stand by that statement.

<<LMAO Cathy honestly. Stop trying so hard. I know what the movie's budget was and so do you. I know what the movie cost to make. So do you. And I know what it's bring in as it moves right along to DVD (which will be rather quickly) and so do you. And after it hits dvd I'll know what the dvd sales are from this film and so will you. Because that information is made public. So stop with all the nit picking. This movie was a box office disaster. If you want to keep denying that just because you're a skeet fan go right ahead. but it's not going to help.>>

I would be trying to see this movie with or without Skeet. Neither you nor I know the numbers, the deals, and all the rest of the details.

LMAOAU, Rhonda. As I said in my other post, based on your remarks on IMDb you do not appear to know much about Hollywood and how it works.

<...he's talking a good and deep line of BS about warm fuzzy family feel good films and walking the line for this bomb. He's paid to grin and bare it. Shame you don't know that.>>

Making assumptions about what I do or don't know makes you look foolish.

<<There's no Easter Bunny either... or does that spoil the week for you too?>>

There most certainly is an Easter Bunny. I can't help it if he didn't come past your house.

I'll continue to be entertained by your posts, however, you've lost the ability to be concise and direct. Most of your posts are full of little more than hatred and bad facts.

Yeah, that's bye ... something for you to celebrate since you missed the Easter Bunny.

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[–] andidanceco 10 years ago

Awwwww, I love Cathy Bergeron! :)

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[–] cathy-bergeron 10 years ago

Hi A, thanks! I'll post you later. -cjb

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[–] AFishCalledRhonda 10 years ago

cathy, keep arguing with the FACTS listed on the specs for this profile page in this movie and film DATABASE website. It's not going to make it any better for you.

Like I said this movie completely flopped. It's now passed it's prime of 130 something screens and now back to a pathetic 18 screens. It's shoooting budget of 10 million is lost in the wind. It's only made a little over 600 thousand dollars back. That's not a rumor either but you go ahead and assume that it is. That it's a lie by someone who doesn't know jack. Never mind the fact that the production studios and everyone on the working end of Hollywood supplies this site with those figures. They don't go investigating it all....looking for that information. It's all submitted by the film's company's themselves. The good... bad ...and the ugly.
The Los Angeles Times did a big review on 50-1 this week.

Wanna read it? You probably wont like their opinin either.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-50-to-1-movie-rev iew-20140523-story.html

Keep calling me names... I don't care. Keep making excuses.... I don't care. If someone ...anyone makes a statement about something and you don't like it... you came running Cathy. The second i said this movie shouldn't have been made and said why....you flooded the thread with posts on how I have no right to say that or post that or whatever.. frankly i got bored with your grandmama finger shaking and scolding on opinion having etiquette. You people are so bubble gum it's scary. You think every damn thing has to be a ego building pep talk or else it's full of hatred and evilness. This was a dumb idea for a movie. Plain and simple. It has nothing to do with sending people burning to hell. It's about a film company that missed the mark. They had a bad idea and they lost millions of dollars.

Skeet....a talented actor is now attached to a box office disaster...quickly followed by a network that for some reason just now decided that it's going to pass on his next starring tv drama up for grabs. (Babylon Fields) Everything in hollywood is about image. And I am just so sorry Cathy that you don't seem to get that yet. It's a dog eat dog...cutthroat industry that doesn't give a damn about principles. It cares about making money and exploiting anything and everything to get it. Using ....abusing...cheasting...attention grabbing stunts that manipulate the public....and if you miss a step...there are a million others dying to take your place.
Now, Skeet's doing what I said several months ago he was going to have to do.... Yet you guys all seem to have forgotten about that.

Just as I said... he would now have to struggle to climb back to the position he was in when he did Jericho. A set of events that have taken him straight down into obscurity. I've predicted the same for several actors in the past and I did with Skeet. Now he can't literally pay people to watch something he's in. Sort of like his wife's acting career now.

You seemed to hate my posted comments about why this was a horrible idea for a movie and why it wont make any money... Well...you don't like my words. Read the Los Angeles Times review and they'll explain it to you in a "gentler fashion" if that's what you need to be able to stomach the views. i don't have a gentler fashion. I tell it like it is. Harsh or not.

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[–] cathy-bergeron 10 years ago

Rhonda,

I do not need "something" to make it better for me. "It" is just fine with me.

For the record, I do not read or trust the Los Angeles Times due to its constant inaccuracies. Also, for the record, I have never called you names. It's pathetic that you would accuse me of doing so. I've challenged your inaccurate information, and I will continue to challenge all inaccurate information I read or hear from any source.

I read your post twice, and it's my opinion that your current post is incoherent. You seem to want to be ticked off at me. Fine. I'll worry about that next century.

If and when you can write something factually accurate and coherent, I'll be more than happy to read it and respond -- if appropriate.

In the meantime, I don't need a "gentler fashion" or any other politically correct BS. I stand by every word I've ever posted here or on any other board. When I've been incorrect, I go back and edit my posts to reflect that fact.

Have a great weekend,

Cathy

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[–] cathy-bergeron 10 years ago

I tell it like it is harsh or not ... pick your choice ... you don't know jack crap about Hollywood/Hollyweird.

I'm not in a particularly PC mood tonight so you get it like it is. Grow up. Stop trying to run Bryan's life or tell the world what he should be doing ... and judge the GD movie when it's had it's run. It's not over and you apparently have no clue what the movie is about to start with.

Sounds like Cathy is ticked off. If you got that, you got it right.

-Still, have a great Memorial Day Weekend.

-Cathy

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[–] AFishCalledRhonda 10 years ago

It's amazing how i can post a message and it's got you reeling all damn day long you have to reply to the same one repeatedly. LMAO!!!
The public AS-A-WHOLE has absolutely NO desire to see this movie. Oh...and I can tell the world.... (That was funny...tell the WORLD lol) you mean POST IT A MOVIE MESSAGE BOARD??? What an actor who just did a complete hollywood disaster what he should be doing instead. Yeah, I'm gonna say exactly what i think. This is called America like that. Oh and by the way.....he goes by Skeet....not Brian. What... your his mother now? Don't think so.

Like I said...you go on ahead and argue with the numbers the film's company and the box offices have submitted to this database on the films shooting budget and the money the box office is bringing in on it. Go right ahead and think it's a lie. That ten million dollar figure must have been made up by the imdb site itself. lol The 600 thousand it's made back is probably made up as well. I just don't know why they bother to even make this website since it's as fictional as a tabloid.. lol
Don't believe what the LA Times said. After all it's just La's own newspaper's movie critics opininon....a critic that is paid to review all the films out now and doesn't give a crap what anyone else thinks either.

Judge the GD movie when it's had it's run??? Hun, it's had it's run. How much more money do you think a failing film that's only being played on 11 screens is going to make now?

Weekend Gross
$9,425 (USA) (11 May 2014) (11 Screens)
$10,729 (USA) (4 May 2014) (16 Screens)
$21,063 (USA) (27 April 2014) (23 Screens)
$58,970 (USA) (20 April 2014) (56 Screens)
$78,900 (USA) (13 April 2014) (95 Screens)
$206,207 (USA) (6 April 2014) (133 Screens)
$39,638 (USA) (30 March 2014) (18 Screens)

And that's just from this site. Everywhere else has the updated info which shows it's dropped 70% down to only 6 screens and pulling in an average of $634 dollars when it's shown. It's already passed it's peak. That was from April 6th to April 18th. It made around 250 thousand dollars on around 100 screens. That's over now. So I have judged it. It bombed. It still hasn't even made a million dollars yet. Not even one million. It cost between 8.5 and 10 million to make. You do the math. I have. But you think I'm lying. I did the research before it was released. I knew it was going to tank back when they couldn't find a distributer for it. Back when it was announced it was going to be an indie film. Back when it went from a normal looking movie on paper to one that the company couldn't find anyone to invest in it's release. I said then this movie was doomed. And what do you know? Look what happened. They announced a bus tour because they couldn't afford promotion....tv ads...sponsors. They got the actors themselves to travel in a trailer begging to get people to watch their movie. Acting like a struggling theater troop stopping at local radio stations across the country. I remember a day when Skeet Ulrich was on the cover of magazines and in films that actually played in more than 100 theaters. A star that didn't just have the occasional toothless Walmart crowd come on out in the family pickup to meet him at the local flea market. What's next? Autograph signings at the local Piggly Wiggly now?

You hate the local media so much for lying. They're all reporting that NBC passed on yet another pilot he did. Babylon Fields was rejected for the new TV season. You think they really just hated the show idea..... or was it because they just didn't see there being any interest in a Skeet Ulrich lead show after seeing the most recent lack of interest in his most recent film project? Yeah, you're right. It's a terrible idea for a show. That must be the reason because who could make a success out of a tv drama about the Zombie Apocolypse? Can't be done.

You grow up yourself. He's a hollywood actor. He's not your baby. His career decisions are 100% public fodder. He screwed up and he's paying the price right now.

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[–] cathy-bergeron 10 years ago

Rhonda,

I'm as grown up as I need to be or want to be. You appear to be still working on it. I do wish you success there.

Example, you wrote:

<<It made around 250 thousand dollars on around 100 screens. That's over now. So I have judged it. It bombed. It still hasn't even made a million dollars yet. Not even one million. It cost between 8.5 and 10 million to make. You do the math. I have. But you think I'm lying.>>

I never said I thought you were lying. You just plain invented that, Rhonda.

As I've said before, in a "Hollywood" setting, I refer to him as Skeet. In a "non-Hollywood setting," I occasionally use Bryan. It's spelled B-R-Y-A-N, and I know he answers to it.

I've never said he was my baby nor do I act like he is. The more you keep spewing out what he should be doing, what makes success or constitutes his, and blah-blah-blah, the more you yourself appear to be acting like his agent or his mother.

Actually, my "baby," aged 23, ticked me off a couple days ago giving me time to surf the net a bit, enjoy your laughable posts, wonder where your inability to get reality comes from and all that takes less than 30 minutes, not your referenced:

"It's amazing how i can post a message and it's got you reeling all damn day long you have to reply to the same one repeatedly. LMAO!!!".

Although you're right <LOL> ... I probably should have edited my original post.

Just the same, I am LMGDMFAOAY because you just don't get it. Maybe you never will.

I thank you for the laughs -- I really needed them, and I still wish you a wonderful Memorial Day Weekend weekend.

I just can't help wondering when you're going to answer the question:

"What is your motive?"

-cjb

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[–] andidanceco 10 years ago

Troll

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[–] AFishCalledRhonda 10 years ago

Awww what'a the matter deary? Truth hurt much? lol

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[–] cathy-bergeron 10 years ago

<<Awww what'a the matter deary? Truth hurt much? lol>>

I could be wrong, however, I do believe she meant "Troll." If I am wrong, I'm sure she'll let me know. -cjb

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[–] andidanceco 10 years ago

Definition of Troll:

One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.

Just one of many definitions online: taken from http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

Or, Rhonda, maybe you prefer this definition:

a mythical, cave-dwelling being depicted in folklore as either a giant or a dwarf, typically having a very ugly appearance.

synonyms: goblin, hobgoblin, gnome, halfling, demon, monster, bugaboo, ogre
"the storybook trolls who live under the bridge"

Have a great day!

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[–] cathy-bergeron 10 years ago

Hi A,

Sadly, those definitions do depict what Rhonda has become of late.

I can't remember the name of the book, but as a kid I had one about trolls under bridges. My older brother read it to me a couple of times before bed. I'd be up half the night making him check for trolls under my bed. He found a different book to read to me before bed .

-cjb

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[–] andidanceco 10 years ago

Dear Stinky Fish:

I feel so sorry for you. You have nothing better to do with your time than target a very talented, sweet person and his wife, for no apparent reason.

Why do you hide behind your "fish mask"? Tell us what your motive is.

The truth is this (and the truth, I'm sure, makes you insanely angry):

1. Films don't have to make uber millions to be successful. Art is art and is appreciated for what it is and not what it is worth to unappreciative eyes.

2. What some people value in life is not the same as what other people value in life.

3. Skeet had a wonderful time doing the movie, meeting new friends, and doing the tour!

4. Skeet is happy! He's happy being himself and doesn't need to be compared to other actors because he loves his art. If every movie and every actor were the same, going to the movies would be very boring!

5. Your posts do not have any effect on anyone. You don't persuade anyone to NOT see 50 to 1 or dislike Skeet. If Skeet even saw your posts, I'm sure he would just laugh and never give them a second thought. Your negative ramblings are probably collected by shrinks across the world to study to help diagnose the crazy in people.

6. No one buys your "I just have a right to my opinion" garbage you spit out anytime someone questions your motive for being so angry and negative. So why don't you just tell us?

Sharing your opinion, positive or negative, is one thing but your hatefulness is near worthy of being banned from posting here.

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And, I'm just wondering .... WHAT'S YOUR MOTIVE?

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[–] cathy-bergeron 10 years ago

I'll second what's her motive.

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[–] AFishCalledRhonda 10 years ago

Motive??? Motive? You actually think you have to have "MOTIVE" to post the truth about a movie in here? LMAO! That just goes to prove what little fanbots you really are. Such little kiss ups. Someone can post an OMG He's so CuuuuTTTTTEEE I could just eat um up! post or a this movie's so AAAAAAAWWWWWWSSSSSSOME post and there's not "motive" as if it's a crime to post. But if someone posts that such and such movie should never have been made because it's totally bombed in the theaters. It's cost 10 million to make but hasn't made back 1 million dollars in profits and couldn't even find a distributor because all the big money backers in Hollywood have not interest in it at all. Plus it's about a horse that had only one major win to his entire racing carer and there are at least five other horses out there with an even more amazing to see on film story out there that have an even more impressive racing history such as either one of the fillys that I named . and yet you say there's a "sinister motive" behind posting the TRUTH.

You're such little fan girls you can handle the truth. You can't handle that there are plenty of negative things associated with this movie. You focus on the bubblegum of everything.

Do you have any idea how someone in hollywood promotes a movie? Do you believe every single thing you read.? you must. There is no MOTIVE. It's FACT. The movie tanked. It cost a lot of people a lot of money. If everytone involved had it to do over again knowing what it was going to do there is only one answer. No.

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[–] AFishCalledRhonda 10 years ago

Dear Little Suck Up,

1. Films don't have to make uber millions to be successful. Art is art and is appreciated for what it is and not what it is worth to unappreciative eyes.

If films cost uber (you must be 15 you're using the word UBER) millions to make...then they have to cost millions in profit to pay for themselves otherwise you see sweety.....Hollywood would go broke. And I'm sure your parents would lose their house as well. See you have to make money in order to survive. The money doesn't just fall out of the sky and the bills are paid. When you grow up and get a house of your own and movie out of mommy's basement you'll learn that. But playing on facebook and bloggin 24/7 doesn't teach those skills. People can't afford to throw millions of dollars out to make art films that don't make any money back just so a handful of die hard skeet obsessed fanatics like you that pester the hell out of him for shout outs on twitter can have drool material.

2. What some people value in life is not the same as what other people value in life.

Yes. Your right. Some people value more than facebook twitter....and drool worthy pix. Some people value what it takes to make it in life.

3. Skeet had a wonderful time doing the movie, meeting new friends, and doing the tour!

You poor little girl. How many actors who have films out that they are trying to promote don't say that? Think real hard.... I'll wait. You really are that gullible aren't you? When a celebrity comes out and smiles a big grin and says that same canned statements they ALL SAY about doing a film. "Oh it's been fantastic. I've really enjoyed all the locations...the friends I've made...and jujst the whole experience is something I'll never forget" Do you know that's in the freakin handbook for movie promotion. It's called PR. Why don't you know the difference between what a celebrity says when the cameras and mics are off and they return to their REAL world and what they say to the public...fans...and press as part of their job? Why don't you know that?

Tell me this hun.. If Skeet hated the rv trip. Complained about the traveling. Would have rather been home making furnature or hanging out with his kids....was pissed this was the best movie script he'd been offered in so long he HAD to take it because his last pilots weren't picked up and Netflix decided against continuing Jericho. Would you really think he'd actually tell the public that? No. He wouldn't. So WHY THEN would he NEVER even think those things? Hmmm....The movie is doing really well...he's got a million more scripts for even bigger projects now beating a path to his door BECAUSE of the success of this flick. It really wasn't an rv bus tour because the movie was such a flop out the box bomb but instead they all CHOSE to promote it door to door like that instead of airing tv commercials and having a distibutor put it in thousands of theaters. That's why he's really not just doing his job by saying how much fun it is and how great the whole thing is.. And why he'd NEVER ever think those thoughts about it above. Do you have common sence or do you just react to press release banter??? Use your head.

4. Skeet is happy! He's happy being himself and doesn't need to be compared to other actors because he loves his art. If every movie and every actor were the same, going to the movies would be very boring!

He was equally happy when he was doing successful films. Every actor who's career has gone down says that same thing. It's what they say. It keeps up like this and his fans will each have to drive 300+ miles to even see his next films because that's how bad it's getting. What do you think is left when you're doing indie films and shorts self funded? When you're in successful box office smash films...then down to mid level films...then hit tv series...then failing tv series...then indie films and shorts self funded projects...then pilots for tv that one by one aren't picked up? What's next hun? What's below that?

5. Your posts do not have any effect on anyone. You don't persuade anyone to NOT see 50 to 1 or dislike Skeet. If Skeet even saw your posts, I'm sure he would just laugh and never give them a second thought. Your negative ramblings are probably collected by shrinks across the world to study to help diagnose the crazy in people.

My posts have an effect on you darling. Or you wouldn't be repying to them and you wouldn't be so upset that you're reporting them and trying to have them removed. That's how much my posts get to you. But trust me. If they're removed. I put them back. If the account is removed. I put a new one up. Plus...remember that door swings both ways.. Oh and hun, I don't have to persuade anyone to NOT go see 50-1. Nobody is seeing it anyway. That's the point. And it's not even going to be in too many more theaters anymore for anyone TO see it. It's over.

6. No one buys your "I just have a right to my opinion" garbage you spit out anytime someone questions your motive for being so angry and negative. So why don't you just tell us?

There isn't a MOTIVE. I tell it like it is. YOU are the one who can't handle the truth.

Sharing your opinion, positive or negative, is one thing but your hatefulness is near worthy of being banned from posting here.

Remember that door swings both ways hun...Don't say I didn't let you know.

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[–] Deliberate_Stranger 9 years ago

I have seen this film some time ago(on dvd) and one thing for sure - it didn't cost nowhere near 10M to make. I would say more like 5M. Production people send all the data to imdb so yeah they can make it up and they do all the time because they want everyone to believe that their film cost way more than it did.

Doesn't change the fact that you are right. It bombed in theaters but I think there is a possibility they will make it back(or some of it) from dvd/Blu Ray sales, tv sales(big money) and VOD. I would have to take a look where they filmed it but I'm sure they also used the state with a good tax program so they could get 20-30% of the budget back from that alone.

Again, don't you believe this cost so much money. If this film had 10M budget, it would have much bigger names attached to it. People who produced it are no idiots and it's not an 'art. film'. It was made for money like other movies. I'm sure they knew the subject of the film is far from 'hot' and 'marketable'.

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