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kiss [spoiler]

posted 11 years ago by chillpillory
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did Collete kiss Mac so that he would have feeling for her and save her? i didn't sense she genuinely had feeling for him. Both Owen and the actress are attractive, and in movies, attractive people tend to get together, but Mac is supposed to be about 20 years older than Collette.

As a 44 yr old man, I like seeing male actors around my age scoring with younger actresses, but Own looked too old for her, even though he's a very handsome guy. Maybe it's because Owen always looks sort of broken down with bad posture. His body looks older than his face.

Anyway, I think the kiss was purely manipulative. If she had truly loved him, she wouldn't have had her brother blow him up.

[–] chillpillory 11 years ago

oddly, I didn't have a problem with Cruise and Riseborough being together in Oblivion, even though Cruise is older than Owen.

[–] gobears87 11 years ago

I think Collette's kissing Mac was pure manipulation on her part. She's an attractive woman, and surely she knows that. She has probably used her looks before to get what she needs. Immediately after they kissed, Mac said, "I've got to get you out." So it worked.

[–] pfgpowell-1 10 years ago

It wasn't that at all. By the time of the kiss Owen knew he had been played and Collette had also been played to save another spy (her mother) and he feared that she would be killed once it became known that she had been turned. He is also VERY pissed off that he has been used by his side as much as his side had appararently been using Colletter. Ironically, as it turned out, she eventually has him killed because her mother is murdered.

[–] Nikon11 10 years ago

I think that their feelings were genuine, but the circumstances prevented it.

She lived a tough life, full of tough decisions, and always loaded with regret - but she had to make them regardless.

[–] gobears87 10 years ago

Can anyone remember if the kiss between Colette and Mac happened *before* Mac made the call to her mum saying, "Colette's been turned in order to save you."?

Surely Mac was already angry that his side had set up Colette as a sacrificial lamb in order to try to save their long-term spy (Colette's mother). Mac was essentially asking mom to sacrifice herself to save Colette. Would Mac have done that if he didn't have romantic/sexual feelings toward Colette? [Which asset - Colette or her mother - was more valuable to the British?] It seems to me that Mac chose Colette over her mom, because Mac had feelings for Colette. And this was helped along by the kiss. (Presuming the kiss happened before the fateful call to Colette's mum.)

[–] Ilario1 10 years ago

Yes. It was before.

"What happens to a dream deferred?"

[–] kevin-schilbrack 10 years ago

I understood the kiss to be an expression of desire for contact, coming from someone who felt alone and scared. But I don't think that she was attracted to Mac.

[–] moizmad 10 years ago

Colette thought she was as good as dead, she was totally desperate, informing on her own brothers and Kevin knew one of them was a rat. I think her kissing Mac was a desperate plea for help. He assured her that he would get her out. Which makes Connor's hit on Mac hard to figure, surely she couldn't be happy with that, as Kevin's boys killed their Mum, not Mac. But we were not privy to whatever went down between Mum, Kevin and Gerry and who put the blame on who.

[–] joebuck3 9 years ago

I think that people are misinterpreting the kiss. What I think it was about is the following.

Early on, when Mac was first recruiting Collette and giving her instructions about meeting him, he said that if anybody seemed a bit suspicious about her phoning a Declan or going off to meet him, she was to give the impression that she was having a secret affair with somebody.

By the time of the kiss, Collette knew that she was under great suspicion and she must have been paranoid about being followed and watched by Kevin or one of his guys. So, I think the sudden passionate-looking kiss was just to make it look like a lovers meeting in case any of the IRA cell had in fact followed her.