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What's worse the new Screams or Halloweens?


Sophie's Choice

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Halloween. I don't like the scream movies after #1, but fan reaction to them is better (aside from #3) and they're consistent in tone. I'm a Halloween Fan, but the sequels are varied in tone and quality throughout the original 2, #3, the thorn trilogy, and the three reboots.

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I HAVE ENJOYED EVERY INSTALLMENT OF THE SCREAM FRANCHISE...THREE BEING THE LEAST OF THE SERIES...HALLOWEEN HAS HAD NUMEROUS DUDS.

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Halloween 3 is worse!
1 & 2 are good.
Scream 1 & 2 are ok.

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Halloween 3 ? you mean the one that has no Michael Myers in it? if that the case it's not canon

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Not really a Sophie's choice since you aren't asking which franchise should be saved over the other.

The new Screams are worse than the new Halloweens. Both have gotten really bad, but the Halloweens are at least funny bad. I think that is what Scream was trying to do and they couldn't even do that. My vote is for so bad it's funny Halloween to be saved.

The 1st new Halloween movie was really good btw.

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halloween

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Allyson was bitchy towards the fat kid? Um, no. I took her side on the situation, and I'm a guy. Allyson just got done fighting with her boyfriend and wasn't herself. And then her boyfriend's friend thinks it's okay to make a move and then throws himself at her/tries to kiss her. And then when she rejects him, he uses the "I was/I am drunk" excuse for his actions and blames it on that. Um, no. What he did is a big no-no among men. Him being a guy, he should've known better. Plus it's called self-control. I am lectured on self-control daily or see guys getting lectured daily about self-control or read about guys getting lectured. And it's not just the ladies lecturing the guys. It's guys lecturing other guys (like a guy being an idiot towards his girlfriend and his friend lecturing him about how to act/treat a girlfriend). So Allyson did nothing wrong. Her boyfriend's friend was an idiot. Also, he only blamed the alcohol/drinking when he got rejected. He seemed fine to me before that. Once he got rejected it was immediately "Oh, I'm sorry, Allyson. I'm drunk/have been drinking." What a liar. Someone that is actually drunk/has been drinking wouldn't really say something like that. Everyone that I've personally seen/witnessed in real life being drunk/had been drinking will deny being drunk or will say they only had one or two drinks, although they are on their sixth or seventh beer or whatever alcoholic beverage they are drinking. The only time they will ever say they are drunk or had been drinking is if they are playing the blame game because something did not go their way. So I'm on Allyson's side. She wasn't being a bitch at all. Even the first time I saw Halloween 2018, I was calling the boyfriend's friend a dumbass/idiot.

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Halloween is worse.

It's not that Scream is better per se, it's just less disappointing. Halloween 2018 was all right, but the next two subsequently took nosedives. Plus, Halloween Ends is decidedly the end of this particular continuity, and most likely the last time Jamie Lee Curtis inhabits the role. It was her big farewell. In Kills she has literally zero scenes with Michael, and in Ends, just the big one. She spends a lot of time seemingly on the bench and it's frustrating. Kills was a Zombie-level insane amount of bodies, and got too comical at times. And Ends, I try to respect that they wanted to do something different, and it has moments, but overall, no.

Scream, it's worth noting that 6 installments in, it thankfully hasn't gone the split continuities route that seems to often happen. Of course it still always could, but it'd be hard since they always build on each other. And we're likely to get Scream 7. So we were never told to view 6 as a finale, and it certainly doesn't have that vibe. So there wasn't that kind of expectation. Plus, Sidney wasn't in 6, but it's always possible/hopeful that she will in the future, and if/when she does, pretty much all she needs to do is show her face and put in ANY effort, and her return will probably be as heralded as Laurie in Halloween H20: 20 Years Later. Scream 6, like Ends, also takes chances and does different things, which I respect and like for the most part. My biggest problem is simply none of the characters who die are ones you care about at all.

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Scream went the different continuities route. There is the TV series. I think Scream 1-4 are canon to the series, but it goes off in a different direction. Then Season 3 of the show is not connected to the first two seasons. Plus Season 3 goes back to the movie mask. The first two seasons have some different mask. Probably due to rights for the mask. I think they got permission to use the mask from the movies for Season 3.

Scream 6 DOES NOT do anything new. All the kills I've seen before in the previous Scream movies. Scream has also been to another town/city before. Scream 2 takes place at a college/university outside of Woodsboro and Scream 3 takes place in Hollywood. Also, the New York setting gets ditched/forgotten about after a while. About 20-30 minutes in and with all the setting locations for neighborhoods, streets, alleys, etc., I forgot the movie was in NYC and it just seems like we are in any town or city. I could probably walk around my town and find something similar to all the places the characters went in Scream 6. Can't use the subway bit as an argument because NYC isn't the only city with a subway system.

Scream 6 is also pretty much a remake of Scream 2. Characters are in college like Sidney in Scream 2. The motive for the killer(s) is pretty much the motive Billy's mom had in Scream 2. Lots of reversed deaths like Dewey's deaths in Scream 1 and 2 (he originally died in those two movies but test audiences didn't like it, so they inserted some shots of him still being alive). Then the final act takes place in some kind of theater. Then Sam dresses up as Ghostface to mess with the killer just like Sidney did in Scream 1 with Billy. Scream 6 is pretty much Scream 2. Only a crappier version. Plus it just steals/borrows a lot from the previous movies. It's a crappy/lazy sequel.

Scream 6 never takes chances either. The ones making it are a bunch of pussies. No one major dies. Just new characters and random people.

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Scream sucked from the get-go. Halloween at least had I, II, and III before it got awful.

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