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This is probably one of the most racist children's shows I've seen.


How is anyone okay with the content of this show? First of all, it's a 'martial arts' show with no Asian actors, lead or secondary. As if it isn't hard enough for an Asian to get an acting job in regular TV and film, they feel the need to whitewash films BASED on the Asian culture. Second, the 'martial arts' and Asian culture shown is horribly stereotypical and inaccurate. And to put the cherry on top, you get the character "Bobby Wasabi." If his name isn't racist enough for you, he is a big, fat, WHITE guy dressed in racist "yellow face."

PLEASE tell me nobody is actually okay with their kids watching this garbage?

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"the only thing anyone watches "Kickin it" for is the super hot Olivia Holt" - That's the only reason I watch it lol

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I have seen examples of racism on television and in the movies, and Kickin' It is not one of them. It is supposed to be a humorous look at the martial arts scene, not to be taken seriously. Get a life.

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Please don't feed the troll.

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You have a good point!

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I'm not a troll, this is a serious problem.
If this show was about the hip-hop culture, with no Black people in the show, and instead of "Bobby Wasabi" we had "Leeroy Jiggawaa," played by a White man in Black-face, everyone would have a serious problem with it. But when it's a show about Asian culture, with a stereotypical "Asian" character, played by a White man in yellowface, "IT'S JUST A JOKE, YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN." Or I'm a "troll"
Personally, I don't see the difference, and I don't understand how you guys do.
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If you are not a Troll then check the color settings on your TV. He is not an Asian character and he is not in yellowface.

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"Yellow Face" is not a literal term, describing someone wearing yellow paint on their face, but rather a white person wearing clothing, wigs, and accessories that are made to make him look stereotypically Asian. It would be like someone wearing stereotypical Jewish garb, like a big fake nose or overly stylized side-burns and a yamaka, or a white man wearing stereotypical African garb with fake gold teeth, or a poofy afro wig.

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Hell yeah, I agree, but that does sound like a funny yet bad concept. It could work on a sketch com.

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There are actually several Asians in the competing karate dojo. Did you not notice them?

Just some food for thought,
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I would find a martial arts show casted with Asian actors to be more racist than this. Only Asians can do martial arts? How come if I walk into a martial arts studio in my state, all I see is caucasians?

I find it to be more about the kids - the karate is a plot line.

As for "Bobby Wasabi", he's clearly caucasian, and that his stage name from many years past...

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I can understand that, but no Asian characters? At all? Anywhere?

And if Bobby Wasabi is supposed to be interpreted as clearly Caucasian, then why does he wear stereotypical "Asian" garb, complete with wig and fu-manchu.

At first I thought the show was just kind of insensitive, with it's lack of Asian role-models and inaccurate depiction of their culture, but The Bobby Wasabi character was kind of a deal breaker.

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He wears stereotypical "Asian" garb because he got his fame making cheap martial arts movies in the '70's.

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So did a lot of real people, who did it without the offensive garb, and even if he did, there is no reason to have the character still wearing it in the episodes (In fact, the clothes he wears now are even more stereotypical and offensive).
Think about it this way, if they had a character who made his fame by doing old blackface films, would it be acceptable to have his character wearing blackface in the show?

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Here we go AGAIN!

First you dont want to be in the Karate Schools and the nerds but now when there is a show about a Karate School you get all upset!


First it was Dragonball Z

Speed Racer

Avatar the Last Airbender

you are never happy with anything are you?

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How many Asians were in Bruce Lee movies?

The OP makes it sound as if it's not a true karate project without an Asian it it and that sounds more racist than anything.

The show is about a Dojo at a mall. It's completely believable that no Asians, Alaskans, Europeans, Australians, Koreans, and any other nationality anyone can conjure up has not signed up there.

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Yeah!


although I wish there was more diversity.

Like biracial kids

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Oh I think there should be other competition karate dojo like canada and australia

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Yeah, and NONE of those movies had any Asians in them! At least not as the leads.
I'm not saying EVERY karate thing has to have Asians in it, but it's be nice if there were more high profile parts for Asians in the industry, especially if we are gonna use their culture.

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Yeah I agree but I did notice this new show has a half chinese guy with his white father and the female singer at the palm woods has a chinese father and white mother.


Plus more of it you know.

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I can give two reasons why it is ok for Bobby tidress how he does.

First, he was a B-movie martial arts star in the 70s, and simply cannot accept he is no longer that star.

Second, and more important, he is the face of Bobby Wasabi Dojos. He is expected to look like that. If you were to see col. Sanders, you would expect him to be dressed as a Southern gentleman. If you were to go to a celebration for Long John Silvers, like a grand opening, you would expect to see a pirate, or a clown for McDonalds. It is part of the promotoin of the business and the name.

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First, he was a B-movie martial arts star in the 70s, and simply cannot accept he is no longer that star.


thats why its so funny! His a billoinare and he has this Dojo and Rudy is the one keeping his Dojo up



Second, and more important, he is the face of Bobby Wasabi Dojos. He is expected to look like that. If you were to see col. Sanders, you would expect him to be dressed as a Southern gentleman. If you were to go to a celebration for Long John Silvers, like a grand opening, you would expect to see a pirate, or a clown for McDonalds. It is part of the promotoin of the business and the name.


True but I think Bobby is now more in his glorified Delusion days you know. Thats what makes it funny. I will give it this much they got heart.

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Yeah, and NONE of those movies had any Asians in them! At least not as the leads.
I'm not saying EVERY karate thing has to have Asians in it, but it's be nice if there were more high profile parts for Asians in the industry, especially if we are gonna use their culture.



Then that culture needs to step up and make shows like Bobby Washabi you know.

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First I want to start off by saying, I totally agree with what you are saying. From what I've noticed through the years, no matter how right you are when it comes to something like a real race issue dealing with the media and television, if that argument is anything against what people see as 'the norm' you are wasting your breath.
No, I'm not Asian, and really that doesn't matter at all. You don't need to be of a certain color to know that a blonde hair, blue eyed guy is not descendant of some old ninja clan. Which is what every Power Rangers show is based on. Last Air Bender, not even going to go there. M Night Shyamalan said himself that he would have only used white people if he could for the whole movie, but he received so much backlash from the advance screening that he had to redo it. Dragon Ball Z. Seriously that wasn't even a movie. The only reason I even came to this post of Kickin' It was to see if anyone was going to talk about this same formula that is used predominately in almost all shows on tv. Cute, thin blonde, one handsome leading guy and the rest dorks or fat or nerds.
Someone said earlier that this is in a mall so you wouldn't expect to see any Asians playing the roles. The type of people that the are spoon feeding us to believe exist on these shows don't exist. Nick nor Disney can control the eventuality of what is real and what is not, that's why most of the shows get cancelled or some sort of quick change. Someone ends up crashing their car while drinking and driving...Pair of Twins, Someone get's pregnant because they are having sex...Spears.
I'm sure I'm gonna get ripped for whatever, really I don't care. Honestly, when people feel that you are talking directly to them they get offended and want to lash out...so that's cool. I'm saying anything thing about 'all white people this' or 'all white people that'. I'm not that type of ignorant. I never once believed that all of any race was conformed to one idea or one way of thinking. I just believe that people are so scared of standing out and saying something because of the backlash. If you are watching any line up for any show and you realized this formula. White leads, token black, token Asian, nerd, dork, jock, and you don't see anything strange with that. Then my friend you are looking at the world with Eyes wide shut.
For the record. I am black, yea I know 'Go figure' No I'm not gonna say...Some of my friends are white. No, some of my FAMILY is white. Some of my FAMILY are Asian. Some of my FAMILY are hispanic. And I got love for them all, so yea...go figure

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i was actually kind of shocked at how overtly racist their cliches were. of course they had to have a wise cracking black woman with a one-liner every 10 minutes too.

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Yeah, it's kinda stereotypical, but not exactly racist. Eddie sucks as a fighter, and their have been many great black fighters, But I don't fight that offensive, probably because he is the fat kid of the group and merely a punchline. I'm black and ok with Eddie's portrayal. But just because one black fan of the show is ok with it, doesn't make non-stereotypical or acceptable. It might have been cliche to make the black kid a tough guy. Its a welcome change. Phil and Hokmokistan? I won't even start on that, but Phil is funny and he reminds me of the store owners in my hood.

Bobby sucks as a character in almost every way. Rich as hell and can't get a girl, and don't say because he's fat, some chicks dig fat guys, rich or not. But I bet his look is what kills his love life. And its one thing for him to were the garbs here and there, but he crazy if he thing he has to wear it all the time. And he can afford big and tall clothes so that aint it. No asians probably wasn't the plan, and when that Asian dude popped up, he was a cheater, Jack hated him, and eventually everyone else did too. That's kinda bogus. Also there was a greedy monk who looked asian. But that was one bad apple.

I don't like the non racial inaccuracies. First off, you don't win belts in tournaments. And to say the dojo would be closed if no one gets a belt, wouldn't Rudy just cheat if that's what it comes down to. I could see if none if his students ever won a match and they said "if you can't produce a champion karate kid or at least get a win in a tourney, then you're closed for good. "

I hope I'm not being immature in saying this though. I never laughed so much reading a thread. Not laughing because its ridiculous, I'm laughing because pretty much everything said was true and I didn't realize it until I read this thread. The wise cracking black woman would lead people to believe that all black women act like that. Well some do act like that. I hate to say this but most stereotypes are at least kinda true. I love chicken and watermelon, but I thought everyone else did too, not just black people. But for some reason people think we like it and no one else. Some stereotypes aren't good even if they are true as hell. But most of the ones on Kickin it are fairly safe ones .

Formula wise, it doesn't matter if it was an all-asian cast, a few asians or none. Leo Howard is eye candy for the girls, and Olivia is for the boys. So most of the fans could care less. The show gets another season or two whether they make changes or not.

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I took karate when I was a kid and there wasn't a single asian in the dojo, so I can't say I agree with you.

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I took karate when I was a kid and there wasn't a single asian in the dojo, so I can't say I agree with you.




Yeah the majority of people taking karate where white and black




gimptron3000
Too be fair, the show is about "american" karate. There isn't any asians in "american" karate. LOL!!



Well some but very very few


rasslor
Shows how Disney tries to whitewash everything. Ever see that show Antfarm? It's about a black girl and her brother at an All white school.




I wouldnt call it white washing I would call it more not being more diverse you know

school isnt just black and white


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Second, Bobby Wasabi is obviously a Bruce Lee, Steven Segal parody about a middle-aged WHITE guy who is a bumbling idiot. So, if anything, it can be argued it's "racist" toward fat, White people, but that's why it's not offensive to Asians, or Asian culture, IMO. He's a buffoon not because he is Asian-like, or White. He's just an idiot adult figure because this is a show aimed at kids where kids are smarter than the adults regardless, of race.




yeah why is that? Because we all know if that was a chinese guy they would be all over the show and call it racist




Look at this way:

If Kai was Asian, then everybody would complain he was bad just because he was Asian. So, making Kai White avoids that complaint right from the start and just makes the Black Dragons bad because they are the bad guys of the show regardless, of race.




But why is that still? We have a chinese or Japanese guy doing that thats racist but a white guy thats okay!

Breakfast at tiffanys now I would say they hammed it up a tad and yeah maybe some could say that was racist but reverse it and the there would be no complaints about the white guy




So, I don't think the show intentionally tries to be racist... Compared to a more recent episode of "Austin & Ally" that featured not one, but THREE Asian stereotypes in one episode: The shy, submissive Asian male, the oversexed female Asian sexpot and the bossy Asian fresh off the boat who needs subtitles to understand!




Oh when will hollywood learn!












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Too be fair, the show is about "american" karate. There isn't any asians in "american" karate. LOL!!

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