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The blank brass casings in slow-mo scene shooting from car


Anyone else find this jarring? The shell casing are obviously blanks and you see them over and over and over again in this scene. You can see the extra brass that was holding the powder in after each shot. It's kind of like watching student film with very obvious props... took me out of the scene and seemed pretty of lame.

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The rest of the world that's not obsessed with guns didn't care.

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The rest of the world that's not obsessed with guns didn't care.


Don't be a douche ;). The rest of the world that also spent an hour and a half watching a movie that centered around robbing and murdering people with guns? That rest of the world?

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Seen plenty of those movies, yet I don't know s_hit about guns. So the scene didn't bother me a bit; in fact I thought it looked quite cool.


There's a confidence in you guys that's horrifying.

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shanayneigh was right. In my country, you can go your whole life never seeing a real gun or a real bullet cartridge/shell/whatevertheheck. Not everyone in the world is a psycho gun nut.




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Same here....I love crime thrillers, but I have never owned a gun, and I have no intention of ever owning one.

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Wow aren't you great? And which crime ridden crap hole do you reside from? People kill eachother everywhere, disproportionately in 3rd world areas and trouble zones. Just because someone was in the military or enjoys hunting or sport shooting and the chemistry, science, and mathematics behind firearms makes them a psycho gun nut? That would be like me assuming your entire country is filled with idiots based on your post. Thankfully at least half the world is open minded enough to try and grasp other perspectives.

By the way the casing is wrong too, I haven't read further down and don't intend to so sorry if somebody else mentioned this, but this was the most obvious '?' to me, I just smile and ignore it, so no the scene didn't bother me but it was perhaps an oversight, even a goof to use a rifle casing coming out of a pistol... It looked like a 5.7 casing, which is strange, maybe the weapons experts on movies use a universal blank that fits all 'movie prepared guns'. And doesn't actually fit a real weapon, so there's no chance of a bad accident, and the blank happens to come in that case... That would make sense, and I suppose they were right not to care enough to CGI the correct case as nobody really noticed, and those that did shouldn't care, it's a movie after all.

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Who the hell are you replying to?

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I agree with what you said. I don't care what the shell casings looked like. They didn't say "BLANK" in big bold letters. So I actually really enjoyed that scene.


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Here here.

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Yes, I did.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1764234/board/thread/209399921?d=209404363 #209404363
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1975249/board/thread/203979954?d=203979954 #203979954
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1646980/board/thread/194824734?d=194989460 #194989460

But I'm still curious about ridiculously short barrels of the sawed off shotgun. I don't believe they cut it so short only for humorous effect. I would rather believe they found it somewhere and used it because it obviously looks funny. I think I've seen something like this before. It was some signaling device or rope launcher, I just can't remember.

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It's reminiscent of a flare gun, but I think it was cut that short for comedy effect.



...then whoa, differences...

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Yes it was jarring, and the idiots made a close up slow motion scene of it, and it would take almost no effort to get it right.

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Yeah it bothered me, but I just tried to rationalize it as being his gun rechambered and ejecting 5.7mm casings.

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Just assume that any tiny, irrelevant detail that a person can find as being 'factually incorrect' in a film isn't alone. There's always going to be another obsessed person that has found that same tiny, irrelevant detail to be upset about.

You are not alone.

But keep in mind that most people don't care. They're there to be entertained by a piece of fiction.

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The actual reason the cases are necked down is so the very reduced charge of the blanks can cycle the semi-auto pistol. The necked down case creates enough recoil/blowback to make the action function.
The pistols action is also modified to function on the reduced load.

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@jerri_roi I've got no idea what you said, but it sounds cool.

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I didn't notice this, which is strange for me as I've been around guns my whole life and shot more variations and calibers than I care to remember so I looked this up. I noticed how someone said they were "necked down" which made them obvious blanks since it's a pistol. There is a Russian made pistol called the Torkarev TT33 that fires a 7.62 x 25 and the CZ 52 also fires the same cartridge and if this picture works I will attach it, however I doubt it was a Torkarev or CZ. The hammer is all wrong for the Torkarev and The barrel is all wrong to be the CZ, but it could be one of those or there may be another gun I don't know about that fires the same round. It could very well be blanks though as I was watching this scene again on my phone, but I did notice the crimps at the end of the brass. If someone had the blu ray on a big enough screen they could probably read the bottom of the casing as it shows it a few times.

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The fake bullets ruined the movie.

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Nope. The film was ok. I prefer it to the gun nuts.

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I've found this mentioned on other sites so obviously, other people have noticed as well. It may not be important to most viewers but there are those who did see it.

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Yup....you could also safely assume that they aren't going to use real bullets in movies anytime soon.

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But they did use real bullets. You can plainly see in a couple of shots that a real bullet is exiting the barrel, and in another shot you can plainly see a real bullet impacting and penetrating a car door. Live fire is not uncommon in movies. John Woo did it, those guys that made Act of Valor did it.

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If real bullets were fired in this film, I would imagine that the shots were composited together to make it appear as though the actors were firing live rounds at each other. Even the firing of blanks requires a whole lot of safety precautions to make sure no one is hit by casing fragments or burned by powder.

Filmmakers have gotten very good at staging action scenes to look as though live ammo is going off; there are even replica movie guns that have gas-operated blowback systems and throw out spent shell casings with each shot.

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