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Bruce Davison: The Strawberry Statement to Persecuted


In 1970 Bruce Davison starred in the classic lefty student protest film The Strawberry Statement, now in 2014 he's starring in Persecuted, a right wing paranoia fantasy. I just thought that was interesting. Kind of shows how one generation evolved over time. Certainly most college aged white men in the late 60s/early 70s were liberal, and ceryainly most middle aged/elderly white men today are conservative.

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Confusing as he also acted as recently as 2007 on The L Word, a gay dramady, as well as Long Time Companion, a gay movie about AIDS back in the 90's, both of which have world views that do not jibe with the people who made this particular movie...I'm sad for him.

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Maybe it's not that confusing. He's not a star, and needs paychecks to keep living.

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And Dean Stockwell? "Hey, ten bucks is ten bucks." - Geddy Lee

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Same.

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Exactly...he's an actor. He isn't looking to make any statement about his own beliefs, he is looking to pay the mortgage. He played a priest in a film, Camp Hell, not long ago that definitely did not have a pro-Christian/Conservative message, quite the opposite. He's a working actor, end of story.

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Exactly exactly exactly. And If for example an actor choses to play Hitler as the hero in a film glorifying the Nazi party, he's not making any political statement. He's just a working actor paying his mortgage.

Any actor taking a role in a deluded propaganda film is making a statement.

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Yes, and the statement is "I have bills to pay, alimony and child support, a mortgage, and a family to raise. The story of "Persecuted" and the character I portray is not remotely anything like portraying Hitler as a hero. Go F#%* yourself." That's a statement. Enjoy.

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Exactly, you don't call the actor Hitler because he played him in a film, it's a job, not a lifestyle choice... Unless the actor is portraying Dick Cheney, and then he truly is the anti-christ for taking such a demonic role.

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LOL so I take it you're not a fan of Richard Dreyfus?

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Yeah but you might question his values if the movie was pro-Hitler.

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Why sad for him? He's working for christ's sake...

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Pretty sure Bruce would do black face and talk jive for just the right amount of money, he's got a ton of crap on his IMDB page, and the fact that he can be a very good actor makes this all the more unpleasant.

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Unpleasant? Are you willing to pay his mortgage? Put his kids through college? Make sure his health care premiums are up to date?

What's "unpleasant" is two-fold: that even the best actors have to work, whether there's good work available or not; and that anonymous dreck on the internet feel justified in slagging him so distastefully.

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The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them.
--Mark Twain
Consequently the "evolution" is simply the passage of time. $20 says the next marriage fight will be over polygamy and the conservatives will be screaming that "traditional marriage" is only one legal spouse at a time.

Your replies will be graded & possibly used as material in future projects.

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Going by the bible, at least, traditional marriage is one man-several women: polygamy.

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Maybe the man has bills to pay?

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Certainly most college aged white men in the late 60s/early 70s were liberal, and ceryainly most middle aged/elderly white men today are conservative.


References? Any data to back that up?

I'm not disagreeing; I just don't know how true that statement is. And I hate the idea of tossing out a comment like that as if it were fact. I'm a "middle aged/elderly white man" and I'm deeply liberal, as are most other "middle aged/elderly white men" that I know.

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Certainly most college aged white men in the late 60s/early 70s were liberal, and ceryainly most middle aged/elderly white men today are conservative.

References? Any data to back that up?


http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/conservatives-remain-largest-ideological-group.aspx

Pretty standard and well known fact - the older the age group, the more conservative they are. I don't have data from the 60's-70's, but I'm sure you could find it somewhere.

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Bruce Davison will always be "Willard" to me first and foremost! That said, I've enjoyed seeing him all over the place, TV and films, as a character actor. For the most part he chooses great work, I don't see his name and roll my eyes "Oh, Bruce is in it. That tells you how good it is." Like maybe some recurrent SyFy actors.

"Wow, this one has Antonio Sabato, Treat Williams, David Keith, Esai Morales, Lorenzo Lamas AND Tara Reid! No Casper Van Diem?"

So from "X-Men" to "Bigfoot", I'll forgive him for this, and I think I'd even forgive Dean Stockwell.

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Now if Bruce Davison was in a Christian themed film about a man spreading the gospel to rats, i would go see that!

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This was the kinda data I had in mind when I wrote that:
http://www.businessinsider.com/voting-by-sex-age-race-money-and-education-2012-11

"Romney won "Men" by 7 points (52% to 45%)", "Romney won "Older voters" (60+) by 9 points (54% to 45%)", "Romney won "White voters" by 20 points (59% to 39%)"

I would never make the statement that all older (60+) white men are conservative today, nor that all younger (20-30) white men were liberal in the 60s/70s.

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Bruce Davison also starred in X-Man, a fantasy. Dean Stockwell starred in a series about time travel fantasy... gonna condemn them for that too?

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One of the things I admire most about Bruce Davison is his versatility. He has done good movies and bad in all genres, and always makes it interesting.

He has done every genre I can think of, at all budget levels. While the politics of this film are not my cup of tea...the extreme left isn't my cup of tea either. Somewhere in the middle is fine with me.

But I am somewhat interested in seeing Bruce Davison (as well as James Remar and Dean Stockwell) step to the challenge of being in a movie like this. While I am sure it is for the paychecks on all three counts, it still, in a way, takes some balls. For nothing else, than their fans are gonna trash talk them on IMDB for a little while.

And I applaud them for that.

I'll rent this movie. It will probably be boring, but who knows.

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No stereotypes for you, eh? Try some research and cite facts before you make such assumptions. Yes, people do tend to get more conservative as they age, because they see the truth and falacy of the sides.

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