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1993 didn't look that lame, come on....


Okay, now this topic: Did anyone else who lived through 1993 think this movie was a tad exagerrated in its portrayal of the fashions of the time?

Sure, I was only 11 at the time, but I was very cognizant of the styles my family and relatives wore. It didn't look like this.

I know this may sound like a weak argument considering the proximity of time between, but—I think 1992 was more quaint, whereas 1993 was definitely a step up: by 1993, "Grunge" and Alternative had infinitely shaved off the fluff of the early '90s fashion that was still entrenched in '80s residue, and gave it far more edge. So this movie was off by a year, maybe, if they really wanted to make a plausible case for how cheesy the early '90s fashions were.

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Yeah, I wonder why it is set in 1993 too. It was the year I started high school, and high-wasted pants were definitely a goner by then. I've noticed that few 'period pieces' are set anywhere after the early 90s, because aesthetically not much has changed since about...1993. I. It's like in American Reunion, where the only jokes they could make about 2012 vs. 1999 were about how everyone has cellphones now.

I think it was because the movie had to be set before the Internet to work best, otherwise she would just have used Google...er, I mean Altavista or Webcrawler to find the answers to all her questions and half the jokes came from her not knowing what this or that was. A few years later and all that was available, and way, way more. The only reason I can think of that they didn't set it even a year earlier was then they couldn't use the Hilary Clinton recurring joke. But that in exchange for the opportunity to lampoon neon clothes!

Kaiser

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Thank you! Interesting points.

And yeah: I'm amazed how not much has changed since the mid-90s, aesthetically. I mean, the '90s and the '00s are definitely distinct from each other, but not as drastically as other decades. Plus, the '90s fashions have come back full force (the 20 year cycle), so it's hard to discern between what's retro and what's simply current, ha.

I mean, the fashions in this movie DEFINITELY looked like the early '90s-- like 1991, 1992... I know that's barely much farther from 1993, but stylistically it apparently was!!!

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High wasted pants were def not gone by then.

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It was set in 1993 because that's when Maggie Carey, who wrote and directed it, graduated from high school. Turns out I went to high school with her, but I still have no idea who she was. The fashion and the sets and pretty much everything about the movie was spot on for Boise at the time.

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Where do you live? And more importantly, where was the movie set (I forget)? I just drove cross country twice and there are towns stuck in the 70s, forget making the jump from '92 to '93.

They had Andy Samberg in their for grunge, while Donald Glover was dressing a little more golden era hip hop. Consider the other characters. Rachel Bilson didn't seem like she'd be willing to cover her body with baggy flannels and loose denim.

But for the most part I agree...everything 1990-1992 was like 80s-lite, from the music to clothes to TV.

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I grew up in the middle Midwest for sure. And even I didn't think my fellow citizens dressed that poorly.

Like you concurred: 1993 was a clear deviation from 1990-92, and my city reflected that for sure. Those baggy girly clothes and permed hair? They were all gone by 1993. Totally.

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1993 was actually a blast! The women were way looser, there was fantastic music being made, the fashion was more laid back, the only bad thing was the ridiculously slow computers with 28K dial up modems.

It was before 911, so people had way more freedom. The 90s were easily the most fun decade of my time. Whoever made this lame movie has no idea what 1993 was actually like.

I'll take Punctuality

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The 90s were indeed a good decade to be a teenager - the Cold War was over, the Internet was starting, attitudes towards gender and sexuality issues were advancing, and 9/11 had not happened. If pop culture reflects society, it's interesting how only 90s dramatic TV shows have not aged hideously, whereas anything before that is Uncanny Valley stuff.

But mostly, it's nostalgia. Sure I'm older, but the insanity that followed 9/11 has mostly dissipated, and it's very interesting to live in a time when the sci-fi future is now the present and everyone seems to know someone working on nanobots or quantum computing or genomics or whatever. My parents' generation is pushing massive innovation in healthcare, and I really like my smartphone. So yeah.

Kaiser

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Smartphones are awesome, good point there.

I'll take Punctuality

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The women were way looser? Haha

I agree w/ all your other points. The 90s were a great decade—my favorite, and sadly the last gasp of "carefree"-ness 'cause 9/11 changed everything in the '00s. But now that the '00s are long over, I appreciate them more. Prolly cuz I was in my 20s then, so I have very sentimental memories of the decade nonetheless.

Sigh. :)

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The women were way looser? Haha


That was my experience. In the 80s, AIDS was on everyone's mind and women were really prudish. This completely changed in the 90s, but yeah, women have been loose ever since.

I knew some girls who experimented with stripping because strip clubs were actually considered cool in the mid-90s. It seemed to me like that most of these chicks would have never done it at any other time.

I'll take Punctuality

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Thanks for the insight!

And yeah, actually I agree--overall the '90s were way looser than the '80s--after all, the latter was very Republican, right-wing, straight-laced yuppie. While the former was edgier and "alternative".

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The early 80's were actually much more of a *beep* fest then the 90s were because kids were more independent, it predated AIDS and the drinking age in some places was still 18 so a lot of kids could legitimately party LEGALLY and it was a lot easier for 16 and 17 year olds to use fake IDs and get drunk. Plus drugs were everywhere. Pharmaceuticals may be big now but the amount of coke and pot being used in the 70s/80s by your parents when they were teenagers was off the scale and that helped grease the wheels of sexual activity. The numbers from 1977 to 1983 still havent been matched as far as ages of teens first having sex and average number of partners. Early 90s got close though. Dont think we'll see that again with cell phones and internet porn taking the place of sex for a lot of kids. Maybe that first generation of teens post AIDS cure.

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You had 28k at your house? We still had 14k at ours in '93...

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I actually graduated high school in 1993 and all I can remember that it was so cool to graduate along with the classes from Beverly Hills 90210, Save By the Bell, and Doogie Howser, MD. 

kidding


But to answer your question, I think the fashion was pretty much spot on. What the girls wore in the movie was not beyond imagination. It look the norm to me. I think girls wearing leggings was still envogue though I it wasn't in the movie. Brandy's sis, well sexy hos will dress like sexy hos no matter what era. 

One thing that got me is that when I saw one of the grunge band guys jumped the pool fence, he wore socks and sandals. That is a very Pacific Northwest thing, given the movie location takes place in Boise, ID. Maybe 1/10th of the school I went to in Washington State on any given day wore socks and sandals which I found odd because I was a transplant from Georgia in late 1992. They would wear them with shorts, T-shirt, and a jacket on rainy days even just above freezing!

Other fashions solely to the Pacific NW other than grunge and Doc Martins or large black clunky shoes was wearing pull-over sweat shirts inside-out which I fully didn't understood the appeal. Nationally the Grunge look really didn't start to take root until late 1993-early 1994. Those in hip-hop favor wore Cross Colors which was probably nationally.

In the Southeast, one of the fashions were to wear denim overalls or overall-shorts. Guys wearing balls cap, with long sleeve shirts, ties, jean shorts, and high tops or Timberalands and the sort. Just watch old Boyz to Men music vids to get the gist. Having a brown ultra-suede leather jacket was also a thing to wear albeit expensive. Wearing a longer braided leather belt where the end is looped over itself past the buckle. And only in the Southeast where you would have found nearly everyone wearing Duck Head brand clothing (shirts, polos, T-shirts, shorts, khaki slacks, and jeans). It was ridiculous.

In my opinion, I'd say things that define a generation or decade like fashion and pop culture really stopped after 1995. That seems to be the defining demarcation line. I mean really, besides technology whether it be the computers, internet or cell phones, mainly the latter two, what else is there that the modern era post 1995 can claim? Nothing in my opinion. Unless you want to include the destruction of privacy with everybody being able and willing to take video/pics on everything and everyone. You can take the look of 1998 and transplant it to 2015 and there would be virtually no difference. Compare the same 17 year difference between 1993 to 1976 and it is huge.

As for anyone saying 9/11 is your defining moment, I think it all depends on where or how close emotionally tied you were to that event. Being on the West Coast, it had little impact on me or life in general. It also depends on how you view the world. I had a much broader understanding of the world and interests of international going-ons than most Americans and wasn't as shocked when 9/11 happened. Others would say Columbine. In reality, my generation (Gen-X) should be considered the very last innocent generation. By that, I mean a generation without the fear of the present with global terrorism, school shootings, being a sexting pariahs, being enslaved to your cell phone, etc. Looking back, there was much more freedom and it was glorious and far more glorious as an 80's child!


btw Sock and Sandals is still real which I find unbelievable that there are people who still do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z59fQ12OR0A

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So what i loved about 1993 was it was my 8th grade year. Last year of Jr High/Middle School. Then off to the big league, lol... Music was huge back then and Hair Rock was still in, sort of. New stuff got air play along with hard rock and grunge. I mean where i lived in Sarasota, FL i was very normal to hear Nirvana, GNR, Winger, Led Zeppelin and Smashing Pumpkins all back to back to back. What are some of your favorite songs from that period... I am just going to name a few i remember hearing on the radio a lot during that year.

Winger - Down Incognito
Extreme - Rest in Peace
Guns N' Roses - Civil War
Metallica - Sad But True
Queensryche - Jet City Woman
Bad Company - How About That

Granted some of these songs came out a year or 2 years before but the radio here would give them heavy rotation. That is what i loved about Radio back then. One Rock Station to Rule them All... RIP 95 WNF....

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I actually graduated high school in 1993 and all I can remember that it was so cool to graduate along with the classes from Beverly Hills 90210, Save By the Bell, and Doogie Howser, MD.

kidding

FUNNY!!! 😁

I was 13 in 1993 and remember it like yesterday... The fashion is definitely very accurate in this movie.

I think the 90s sucked compared to NOW... but 2000 to 2015 - things have barely changed. The fashions seems to be on a standstill, what was fashionable 3 years ago comes back over and over and over. I have clothes from High School that look like new I wear sometimes and no one even notices that they are actually vintage or almost vintage since High School was almost 20 years ago.

Now we have drones, cool sleek SMARTphones, chromecasting, screen mirroring, smart TVs, amazing laser projection, almost holograms... sorry, but the 90s have nothing on the 2000s...

can't outrun your own shadow

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I agree; we're five years into this decade, and things don't seem to have changed much since the last decade... BUT, that's what we said in 2004/2005, when comparing that decade to the '90s...

I think things are clearer in hindsight :)

On the opposite stance, there was a big difference between 1995 and the '80s... so sometimes it is clear.

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I agree! I graduated in 95 and this looks really accurate to me.

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The teens I knew didn't dress that way but I was in Detroit so the urban fashions were on point. I don't really know if the suburban teens dressed that way.

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Fashion is almost always exaggerated in period films... especially comedies.

One anachronism I also noticed: the term "teabagging" wasn't around in 1993.

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Yeah I didn't think teabagging was around either!

I feel like the fashion wasn't too far off. I was 15/16 at this time, I had about the same glasses as Brandi, hair was like hers and her sister's. The grunge band was pretty close... the decor of the house/bedrooms seemed pretty close too. It's been awhile though, so I don't remember a lot of it.

I'm pretty sure Pavement's "Cut your hair" didn't come out till '94 though!

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Some of the technology in the movie are outdated even by 1993 standards! The macintosh classic computer for example. 1993 had much more powerful computers that could run games like Wolfenstein 3D, Myst, ThunderHawk, and Aces of the Pacific. Not to mention that Doom came out in 1993!

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