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Getting laid / losing virginity is only a matter of choice for girls


But for young males, it is a matter of being attractive enough, confident enough, to get the opportunity in the first place.

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That's a sexist misconception. Do you think a hideous girl has an easier time getting laid than a moderately unattractive guy?

Anybody, anywhere can get laid, period. Some people are just too dense to see the opportunities.

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I'm just saying that an average looking woman can get laid a lot more easily than an average looking guy, all other things equal. An ugly woman can get laid a lot more easily than an ugly man. An obese woman can get laid a lot more easily than an obese man. A midget woman can get laid a lot more easily than a midget male. And so on.

I understand your ego problem with admitting that women have it easier in this aspect of life (attracting sex partners). Its not a sexist misconception. Its just a fact that makes you uncomfortable and invalidates a lot of your beliefs and concerns as a woman.

I can give you plenty of evidence and arguments.

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Feminist ideology, lesbianism and hatred of men blinds the commenter above to the obvious. She even calls you sexist for being a realist. And dense for telling the truth. Have fun!

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True. Guys are way more desperate than girls when it comes to sex! Some of them would have sex with anyone just for the sake to lose virginity. That's why this movie is a joke. Any woman could get laid.

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Guys are way more desperate than girls when it comes to sex! Some of them would have sex with anyone just for the sake to lose virginity. That's why this movie is a joke. Any woman could get laid.


If you ask me that's why this movie works. She is able to get so much sexual experience because she is a girl and really doesn't have to try very hard. If this movie were about a guy it would not have been realistic. The girl that likes him (Cameron's role) would likely not have gone along with all the random handjob/fingerbanging without a little more romance and self-assurance involved. Cameron's friend (Duffy), in hearing about what happened, would not have sought the boy out for a dry hump afterwards and Chip's female counterpart, hearing about his list, would not have approached him to perform oral sex on him.



When a cold momma gets hot, boy how she sizzles!

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The movie doesn't make sense because no girl is that big a slut.... not because most girls can't get laid easily.

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I can give you plenty of evidence and arguments.


yes, please do. give us some evidence and arguments.

i have observed that most women end up with men who are less good looking then they are. i don't think that i have ever seen a woman with a man who is better looking than she is.

it is pretty much understood that we trade down in looks....

but i am still open minded enough to hear about your evidence.

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OrangeandYellow

What is this topic about? Getting married OR getting laid? Answer this question first.

I have another question for you. Do you know the meaning of "willfully obtuse". Consider again how open minded you are.

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What is this topic about? Getting married OR getting laid?


either one.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait wait...Tell me you dont see any difference between the dynamics of the two?

Tell me you dont see a world of a fkn difference between the "marriage marketplace/realm/arena" and the "casual sex hooking-up marketplace/arena"

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in terms of inequity? no, i see it in all of those circumstances.

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While they're young...once a woman is past 40 she virtually disappears from a lot of guys' radar, e.g. on dating sites, and the advantage shifts to men where it stays for the rest of their lives. So on the whole I think it evens out pretty well and maybe even slightly in favour of guys over your entire lifetime.

Kaiser

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^ Kaiser, I agree re: Age, past 40.

Sadly, women often do become "invisible" past a certain age with men. It's just as bad a reflection on MEN as it is on women: Males are hard-wired to be quite superficial in seeking mates (i.e. LOOKS).

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that's really unlogic reasoning if we are talking about sex between a guy and a girl. Girls have sex just as much as guys, guys have sex just as much as girls - it takes two to tango!!!!!!!!. I actually think it's the opposite of what you are saying. There are way more attractive girls in the world than there are attractive men since girls have more pressure on themselves to look beautiful, there are for example therefore more obese men out there than there are obese women (look it up). Logically that would mean that more overweight men have sex than overweight women!

aaand since girls and guys have sex just as much (which is also pure logic as stated earlier) it is indeed a fact that it's equally demanding to get laid whatever gender you are, only uglier guys get laid more often than ugly girls.

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Which is why the idea of a Female American Pie is really stooooopid.

Ps. For guys it's also about luck. Lots of the dudes in this move see action because they have the good fortune to bump into the slutty main character.

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This wasn't a female American Pie, though. The problem wasn't getting laid, it was knowing enough information about sex, both firsthand and otherwise, to be confident enough to have sex with a "stud" like Rusty. She very clearly had no problems going through her to-do list; it wasn't about the chase, it was about the experience. American Pie was about the chase.

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What are you talking about?

When this movie comes up inevitably some crazy feminists shrieks... "but, but, but men have American pie."

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Go to bed

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You are indeed correct, krmaml. As a woman, I've had so many opportunities presented to me. Women do have it easier than men in that respect.

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Thanks for acknowledging something that is so obvious that it usually goes without saying. A lot of women seem to have an ego problem with admitting this or only do so very reluctantly and grudgingly. Being a woman can you shed some light on why that's the case?

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I never met any female who has denied this fact. All of my female friends and I agree that it is much easier to get laid when you're a female than if you were a male.

Maybe it's because I hang out with INTELLIGENT women who let the facts speak for themselves: numerous studies have shown that men are biologically pre-wired to want sex with multiple females as they can, whereas women are more "choosy."

It's science, it can be looked up in academic journals. For the women who deny that it's not easier for women to get laid are either a) ignorant, b) lying to themselves, or c) have some kind of problem admitting this fact.

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From a biological standpoint, getting laid is for procreating.
So, yeah, why is it wrong that the chick is a little picky? If you have inferior genes and are deemed unworthy then work on it. The girl is the one that has to deal with the consequences of these things and carry your ugly baby around. Be thankful you don't have to deal with that.

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lol ; )

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You might have a point about genes if a woman was NOT on birth control and at the Olympics/Chess Club rather than a dance club. But as it stands you're just using another slut excuse.

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lol ; )

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Keep slutting...

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that's it? give me something.

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True. Statistically speaking, more guys want more sex more often than girls. Therefore, there is an abundance of male demand and a scarcity of female supply when it comes to sex. Add to that the fact that males are generally more dominant and aggressive than females (regardless of whether it's due to biology or social conditioning), and it's inevitable that, on average, women will be propositioned for more sex than they desire, while men will have to work harder for it, most of them competing with (and often failing against) other, more socially competent males. Of course there will be exceptions, but that's your typical status quo.

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How about we root for everyone regardless of gender to save their virginity for someone special, practice self respect and quit seeing the opposite gender as sexual conquests but rather a potential partner with whom you will practice safe sex with and treat well, as oppose to fighting over who has the right to whore the most.

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Its easier for girls to get laid than it is or guys.

Why is it wrong to say this?

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It's about equal. The average popular jock wouldn't give an unpopular girl with average looks or less the time of day, just like the equivalent guy would get snubbed by the image conscious queen bee. If anything it's easier for guys because basically what people have said on this thread is that guys have less standards. It's more difficult for girls because they may have equal or more physical desire than the average guy, but they may have difficulty finding compatible guys. I can't speak for every girl, but with girls I think it's more about the relationship and the connection than just the act itself. It's more than one factor. Girls are also naturally going to be more cautious because of a fear of pregnancy. So I think it's unfair to act like girls have all these options they're ignoring, that's not the truth. it sounds like a lie guys are making up in their bitterness over not being compatible with girls they find really attractive. Guess what guys, it happens to girls, too. Doesn't mean I'm going to say girls have it worse, like it's some kind of competition.

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It's more difficult for girls


This is quite delusional, you are confusing things, this is naive or you just dont understand what the point OP is making,
here's the problem:

but they may have difficulty finding compatible guys. I can't speak for every girl, but with girls I think it's more about the relationship and the connection than just the act itself.


see, you are right that girls are more picky when picking a guy do date or have sex, you are right that girls tend to be more careful about the guy they pick, keyword "THEY PICK"

Thats the thing, if a girl wants to sleep with a 9/10 guy, with the Football player of the school, she IS THE ONE making it hard for HERSELF... if a girl is still a virgin in senior year because she keeps waiting for that super model guy in school to be with her... she IS the one responsible for still being a virgin...
you get to pick, the choice is still in YOUR hands...

there could be 100 guys that would love to be with that girl, but she only ones the hot guy, right? thats what you were implying? there are probably at least a dozen guys that have actually talked to the girl.
guys dont get to pick like that, an average, homely nerdy guy might go his entire high school and college life without having a girlfriend, ANY girlfriend. he doedsn't get to pick!
are you a psychopath? how can you DARE say it is easier for guys?
you are saying that girls have a harder time with it because they are CHOOSING the hot guy and he might not want her, what about the rest of hundreds of regular guys?

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You're right. For women, it's a matter of when and where. Even if a woman is unattractive, if she's direct, there's always some desperate guy who will accept, lol

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Why do you think some women on this thread are so bigoted as to not accept this?

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