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The very last scene and why the doctor was wrong


First off...
I had a problem with the doctor's physical reaction to all of the events as well as his explanation of what was happening. I liked his character, but some things just seemed off. Like if a sky scraper were to just collapse in front of you and a friend and your friend turned to you and said "well golly, didn't see that coming". The reaction doesn't fit what just happened.


Regardless.....


The very last scene proves the doctor was wrong for this reason:
Remember earlier on in the movie when the doctor had the dad send his young boy off with their grandfather? Originally the doctor intended on having the daughter go too. He wanted both of them out of the house to see if the happenings still occurred (loud bangs, things flying around). His reason being that if it was a poltergeist then it would be related to one of the two kids (and in his explanation.... therefore not some supernatural haunting).
If both kids were gone then under his beliefs nothing should happen.
However, the daughter stayed behind and didn't go with the grandfather.
What happens? Alot of weird crap goes down. So the doctor comes to the conclusion that he was right after all.... all of the freaky happenings was ultimately related to the daughter (schizophrenia paired with some strong psychic abilities.... therefore, not a haunting from beyond). When the doctor was having the heart to heart with the father he said (paraphrased) "this isn't some supernatural occurrence.... there is no ghost from beyond (the mother) haunting this family. It's because of your daughter. She's schizophrenic and has abilities that we can't explain. It doesn't mean they're supernatural, it's just not something we understand yet."

Then towards the very end the daughter is on a stretcher and is rolled out of the house. The staff leaves too but leaves one camera. Then that camera, at the very end, catches the proof that the doctor was wrong and it was indeed a haunting from beyond. Because in his earlier explanation (why the kids were supposed to go with the grandfather) if the psychic/poltergeist/schizo person was removed from the house then nothing should happen in that house.


........therefore, it was indeed the deceased mother haunting the family.

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But do you still really think it is the mother? I mean, don't you think the mother was possessed and then whatever possessed the mother before now is in the daughter? It does not make sense that the mother would haunt her own children like that after death, especially, because the husband never mentions that she was bad to the children except obviously that she did not take care of them. I think this is something else entirely, it is just a spirit, possessing the family, there would be no reason for the mother to lift up the girl's night gown to propose the idea that the father did something to her. And, it seems to me that this spirit wanted to destroy the lives of the people in the house, it did not care how, so, blame it on the father, possess the daughter, and so on. And also, it did not possess the visitor guy they brought over because it wanted to posses the daughter to get the ball rolling on the whole destroying her father plan. I mean, that is my point of view, I believe the spirit drove the mother to suicide, she did not crash on purpose. That is apparently what evil spirits do, break up families, kill people, make people commit suicide. Many movies have proposed that idea, that the supernatural, the bad supernatural at least, is a destructible force of vengeance.

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op is absolutely correct.

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gezinha is too.

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I agree with gezinha too. The doctor was 100% wrong. The ending (and several scenes earlier also, in my opinion) prove this.
It was a demon or demons responsible for all this. Several things mentioned point to this: the key one being the daughter saying 'we are many'.
The Bible mentions this during one of the exorcisms Jesus Christ performed.
During this exorcism, He asks the possessed man (the demon in him) what its name is. The man/demon replies "Our name is Legion. For we are many."


"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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I believe that the mother was possessed and that is the reason she would disappear and also lay in bed for days stinking. Her sudden change of character was caused by possession. The daughter ends up getting possessed by the same spirit that possessed her mother and that is why her behavior is so *beep* even though the doctor blames it on being a typical teenager.

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I agree with gezinha too. The doctor was 100% wrong. The ending (and several scenes earlier also, in my opinion) prove this.
It was a demon or demons responsible for all this. Several things mentioned point to this: the key one being the daughter saying 'we are many'.
The Bible mentions this during one of the exorcisms Jesus Christ performed.
During this exorcism, He asks the possessed man (the demon in him) what its name is. The man/demon replies "Our name is Legion. For we are many."



"The doctor was 100% wrong." Several points prove this such as the daughter said 'we are many'. Bible blah blah Jesus blah blah "For we are many".

You're welcome to your opinion but the daughter never said 'we are many'. You may want to tighten up what you consider passes for proof and for that matter what if anything this alleged Jesus did or didn't say or do. http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm



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i also read elsewhere on the forum that the mother herself may have been evil -- if you take the father's testimony to be truthful. if the mother had been evil to begin with, and she died in her mad rampage to chase down her husband and kids, then it is possible that the spirit haunting the family is simply the mother. (another poster had an even more sinister reading of the mother, that she wanted to frame the dad with molestation of their daughter.)

there is another interpretation which takes the doctor's "theorising" and turns it on its head, when he says, "it is not likely that you moved from one haunted house to another." since the bad scientist dismissed an improbable but still possible scenario out of hand, it could also be that the family just had the "million to one" rotten luck of moving from one haunted house to another. if so, the spirit haunting this house is simply the resident ghost.

the above two scenarios are also not mutually exclusive, so there is the "billion to one" chance that the family is BOTH haunted by the spirit of evil dead mom AND the resident ghost of their new home. this is represented in the channelling scene where the daughter says, "we are many".

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The doctor was simply stating the position of science that only the natural, not the supernatural, can be scientifically studied. He said, possibly his own worldview as well, that there is no such a thing as an event that is transcendent (e.g. transcends the physical world or transcends scientific knowledge). The fact that his group did not include a person of religious authority and experience to conduct an exploration of the transcendent nature of the events supports my view.
Personally if people or objects were lifted up into the air and thrown about with no observable means of leverage one might consider including the supernatural since psychokinesis is considered junk science.


As an apologist turned authority I don't defend my comments because I am always right.

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That's kind of silly even on his view...because at least one thing would transcend the physical order and it's laws.... The creation of the universe.

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Not at all.

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The only thing they did was rule out the little boy. Couldn't the poltergeist be a manifestation caused by the father, rather than the daughter- or did they somehow rule out the father and I failed to catch that?

My "#3" key is broken so I'm putting one here so i can cut & paste with it.

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Or, it could have just been one last scare before the credits, disregarding everything that came before. Not like that hasn't been done before. (Friday the 13th, my eyes are rolling in your direction).

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Yep. Knew that last jump scare was coming a la Sinister and The Grudge. Had to laugh at how obvious the build up was. Still gave me goose bumps tho. Easy scare but nonetheless an effective one.

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First off...
I had a problem with the doctor's....


You're predisposed not to believe the Doctor and the ending justifies your prejudice.

Here's how it really is. The film is complete at the point the people leave the room at the end. The Doctor is right, the story is over the case is closed.

The bit at the end is just stupid. It makes no sense at all. Some idiot producer would have wanted that stuck on there as some sort of twist or something. It's supposed to be the mother however when asked earlier if Cynthia was present clearly she wasn't. Therefore it's not the mother and this twist is just ridiculous. It ruins a good film, well a reasonable film, I mean if you liked it up until that point.

I guess if you feel the need to believe such and such you can't just live with the actual explanation so you would be looking for something anyway. Filmgoers would be expecting to see the obligatory little twist on the end or be disappointed.

Another thing is did the Doctor see that image on the camera? not as far as we see, and if so his explanation would be such and such. As I already said, the film is complete at the point the people leave the room at the end. The Doctor is right, the story is over the case is closed.

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None of it was real. The movie was about actors creating a paranormal type movie. Very clever. A movie production about the making of a found footage movie. Check it out. Itll blow ur mind lol

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It was clearly a possession, possibly of a vulnerable schizophrenic (first the mother & then the daughter) by multiple spirits/entities. The scene w/the séance proves it.

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