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Can someone explain the movie to me?


I wanted to like but was lost. I think it was trying to be artsy and I hate those films.

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Nothing wrong with artsy. It's the "trying" part that is grating. Watch, by contrast, Coppola's effortless "Dracula" - art almost without trying.

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Really? I found Dracula very overblown, he was trying too hard.. Godfather 1 & 2 and Apocalypse Now were his career highs I think, from the 90s on, eh..

After watching Twixt I wondered why he bothered.. I doubt it was a money thing, certainly not much to be made here, and as for "art" this just felt like a really jumbled made-for-cable movie, not something I can imagine him putring his all into.

Maybe he's just bored?

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"I think it was trying to be artsy and I hate those films."


I'll bet you're excited about the new Godzilla film. Lots of shiny things and explosions and gunfire.

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Dracula was a pretty straight forward narrative. What was overblown? It was ambitious and maybe didn't quite get to where he waned it to be, but it was not overblown.

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I don't think he was trying to be artsy. But more like experimenting. And with that, he could have found something new, or he could have a mess he didn't know what to do with.

Hope he got something out of this little exercise and use it in his future films that's not so experimental. But that was a pain to watch for us audience.



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Well, Dracula certainly is a different beast artistically than, say, Apocalypse or the first two Godfather films...but there's such poise and confidence behind the experimentation you speak of - that's a true artist at work. Whether or not it is deemed pretentious is a director's nightmare (Coppola himself says more or less this in that doc Hearts of Darkness), but a little confidence goes a long, long ways when one is experimenting with film. Dracula wowed us to a degree - Coppola knew we'd be seeing things we'd never seen before, but that weren't elusive to an audience, either.

Twixt's biggest problem was that it was utterly closed off from its audience. It's the sort of film Coppola could have made and then not distributed. It feels like a film for him alone - almost like he forgot there was going to be an audience at all. When Scorsese made Raging Bull, he strongly considered not releasing it. Turns out the images and ideas in that film were and still are mysterious and fascinating, but not completely closed off from interpretation. With Twixt, if Coppola said it was a film for himself and should not have been distributed or seen, I'd bet we could look at the film with new eyes. But since we're expected to sort of meet Coppola somewhere in the world he created here, it is equivalent to him giving us a map to a buried treasure but forgetting he forgot to bury the treasure.

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I enjoyed "Twixt" more than not, even if it was a tad messy and occasionally head-scratching, but I think your analysis here is fairly accurate. A very personal film to be sure, almost to the point of being hermetic.

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Everything that happened in the town was the author working out his story. None of it was real.

It's basically another version of http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0324133/combined

"Passion is just insanity in a cashmere sweater!"

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The sherif was real and so were the deaths of the sherif and his deputy. The sherif really wanted to write with him. The writers wife was real. He wrote a book on what we saw.

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You'll have to read the book he wrote.the one they showed at the end. This is just showing what the author experienced as he journeyed through his creative process.

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far out!

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lol, that "random narrator" was Tom Waits.

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That "explanation" is as convoluted as the film.

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@Ripshin
Well, that's so great about the movie you can find truth in the most unusual places. If you peer long enough down any mystery you'll find connections why that mystery itself drawn you in the first time.

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Even THAT doesn't make sense.

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Ok. Tell me what's your favorite movie.

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The bell tower keeps 7 different times, a representation of (the incident) when he wasn't able to go on a trip with his daughter, as he set the clock with the wrong time, so the alarm didn't go off. And his daughter died on the trip. So "time" in the novel for him is useless and naturally the antagonist.

Even Virginia says keeping track of time here is pointless, that's why she missed his book signing.

Time here is the antagonist. And Hall, by not dealing with the incident is keeping his daughter undead. Somehow he's fighting time.


That's a big part of it: Hall's loss of his daughter.

I think the age of his daughter when she died is also important.
She was a young adolescent, and perhaps between meeting deadlines and going on book tours, he missed out on some of her late childhood/early adolescence.
("I thought they would be small boats... children's boats...")

The goth/vampire kids I think represent the strange (to their parents) changes children go through as they enter their teens - the music they like, how they dress, etc., as they start developing a personality of their own.
It probably all seems so weird to their parents, who suddenly find themselves "on the outside looking in".

Sheriff LaGrange represents the older generation thinking "Bah, these kids today...".

And the creepy pastor killed the children (orphans in his care perhaps?) to keep them from "becoming vampires", i.e. becoming teenagers who will lose their innocence and make devil knows how many mistakes as they start making decisions for themselves.

Flamingo was like the Pied Piper; he "gets away" at the end because he'll always be around: there will always be an adolescent sense of rebellion, regardless of the clothes it wears.

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Exactly -Rushmore. It's about guilt. Overwhelming, soul-constricting guilt. Plain and simple.


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Couldn't have explained better! Great job and thank you The_Rusholme_Salute for taking the time and effort for such a complete run down of the film.




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I like his explanation.

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I don't have an explanation yet. I can tell you as a Poe fan that there are a LOT of references to Poe's stories beyond those the film points out itself, like when Poe is talking. The clock tower with all the different faces is from "Devil in the Belfry", a story which reads like an hallucination at times. There are many other small things like this.

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Okay, here's my take. It's either a gothic horror story as billed, or it's an homage of sorts to the creative process. Or it's somewhere betwixt and between the two. (See what I did there?).

What do you get when you mix the pure desperation of a writer scraping the bottom of the barrel, various and sundry intoxicants, and a splash of actual talent? Maybe you get a best seller. Or maybe you solve a mass murder.

Me, I think the whole thing was an internal dialogue with the writer's own ghosts and literary influences. Poe and Baudelaire (a notorious substance abuser in his own right) are referenced, and Poe even makes an appearance as a 'spirit guide' - and editor, LOL - but only when the writer is under the influence, or asleep and dreaming. He's also doing battle with his own demons, demons that arise from his guilt over his daughter's death. Did the abuse and murder of the children happen as shown? Or did Poe and the vampire incarnation of his own daughter serve as muses to the writer as he worked his way through creating a story that could turn his career around? I think the director leaves it up to you to decide how much was real and how much was pure imagination. I will say that there is a lot more humor to be found here than is apparent if you take the story only at face value.

All I know is that I liked this movie.

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Happy to read your comments- incomprehensibly low rating for one of the most enjoyable recent Coppola's.
EA Poe did feel like the heart of the film to me. Odd that this great of literature is so little referenced in modern fiction or cinema- I can only think of The Raven in Last Exit to Brooklyn though surely there are others, whether worthy or otherwise.
And when is a true cinematic treatment of Baudelaire to emerge???

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I really liked it too. Even though the actual part itself was not amusing I liked the Cask of Amontillado reference as well. I thought it was really beautiful looking. I didn't mind the still shots at all. I just got done watching The Blair Witch Project and the sequel so a still camera was a relief.
Some of the best horror was made before they felt like they had to make the camera constantly move, even if it's only subtly moving. If the action or dialogue on the screen is interesting enough to me I could care less what the camera itself is doing.

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Or it's somewhere betwixt and between the two. (See what I did there?).
It is my hope that most people knew what Twixt meant...

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Yeah, right: ART! PEE-YEW! What the hell is art doing in a movie?

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I actually think the whole film may have been real, because the writer was wearing a weird turtleneck sweater at the end scene with his publisher which made me think he was trying to cover up the vampire bite. Could have been just a red herring though.

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I did not catch that at all. Good one.

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