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I don't see the supposed magic of Tessa and Ryan


Really? That was our series finale?! Even for a season finale, that was lame. I mean, here poor George and Dallas are middle-aged and still can't seem to work out their love issues, yet we have the second teenage couple supposedly living happily ever after.

At least with Malik and Lisa, I see the love. I have always found the Ryan-Tessa romance stupid and halfbaked. Really, this hyper-intelligent, snarky, Daria-type is so madly in love with this buffoonish, dumb-jock stereotype who can barely string together a sentence? Ugh. I think either the directing was off, or they were just trying way too hard to ship a cliched "opposites attract" high school fantasy of the nerdy girl and the hunky jock getting together. Because I saw zero chemistry between them, yet apparently we were supposed to be rooting for them all this time.

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I don't get it either.

He was ultimately just a bland, dull pretty-boy. The thing that really messed the show up was how it kept making contradictions in the Tessa character.

Shes supposed to be a smart, feisty, independent wise-ass who is above the stupidity of those around her. And at the same time she is a vapid slut who shamelessly backstabs people because it makes her feel good.

I actually like how George and Dallas didn't end up together. Realistically there is no way they'd ever truly end up together. Hes a pretty intelligent, grounded, sentimental working stiff and shes dumb, high maintenace, self-absorbed, and neurotic.

Their attraction to each other was physical, nothing more. Both even admitted this.

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Basically since the writers didn't know that the show was gonna get canceled didn't intend for this to be the finale.....so you cant really blame them.

They might have planed for something completely different in the next season....but that is not gonna happen.

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I don't understand why people think it's contradictory for Tessa to be into Ryan. Yes, she's smart, feisty and a wise-ass, but she is still a teenager who doesn't know as much as she thinks she does. That's what it seems to me the entire show was about in taking this "know it all" and show her just how much she doesn't know. I would find her insufferable if they didn't keep having her learn some lessons at the end of each episode.

And I'm sorry, love is complicated. Ryan is a nice guy who worshiped her. Throw in he's hot and they have chemistry (all that kissing in season one), it's not surprising that they ended up together. It was actually a growth moment for her to get over herself and give this guy a chance. It wasn't like those other guys at her level were working out. But she screwed it up by thinking she knew best and assuming she knew what would be best for his life because she is "so much smarter than him" and then finds herself in misery when he dumps her.

She is into Ryan. There it is. But she's learned her partner doesn't have to be all she is, honestly, that's what friends and outside activities are for, so good for her. She's a kid and will continue to develop and grow. She's not hypocritical. She's a teenager!

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That is an interesting point, but I never found them to have chemistry. Although I didn't see the first half or so of season 1, so maybe they did back then and it's just been off ever since.

My main thing is, I get that teenagers fall for people who are actually not very suited to them and it's mostly about hormones and all that, but the way they've framed the Tessa-Ryan relationship really does make it seem, to me, like they're supposed to be these soulmates we're rooting for. I mean, ending a season with them making out in the middle of the street, with both employing that movie cliche of running to the other after almost letting them go? And how he was more or less happy with June, but there's just this supposed undeniable magic of him and Tessa that made him cheat anyway? I just don't see it. And then the idea that Tessa was pining away for him the whole time he was gone? When, generally, teenagers might mope a bit at first, but then be onto the next hot guy, if that's all there is to it. The fact that she didn't implies we're supposed to believe she was so in love with him, and I just don't get that from their overall courtship. It seemed like she didn't even like him at first, but he was hot and wanted her, so hey, why not?

I think more so than George and Dallas, Tessa and Ryan seem like the "physical attraction only" couple (and even that I don't find very believable, as I mentioned earlier that they don't seem particularly hot for each other, to me). Even their making out in the street didn't seem very passionate to me. It felt forced.

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I think the terms "soul mates" and "teenagers" should really never be in the same sentence. TV wants us to buy into these teen relationships, but we all know in real life these things only last so long and then you continuing growing and having life experiences and things suddenly change and you grow apart. In this moment, in this show, Tessa and Ryan are not that bad of a match. I loved the episode when she wanted to go to an arty film with him and he didn't want to, but at the end she leaves to find him and finds him at the arty film which he kinda liked. They learned that they don't need to force their likes on each other, but also that sometimes it's nice to give in and do something you may not love if it makes your partner happy. That's a teachable moment in any relationship. The chemistry for me was there, but my standards for chemistry may be different than yours. I would put it down more to bad acting than bad characters if you didn't feel the chemistry. And yes, I can see her moping a bit longer because she was dumped when she felt she had done the right thing only to find out that she was completely way off base. Her sense of self was totally shaken to find out Ryan was in a long distance relationship with someone else. That could have been them. She was totally wrong AGAIN. That will cause some serious moping.

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I guess if you see the happy ending being that they're just together for now, that's one thing. I just tend to think, as unrealistic as it is, these shows and movies that end in two teens getting together are sending the message that that's it for them. I mean, look at Lisa and Malik. Suburgatory is not beyond having teenagers supposedly be together forever.

As for the chemistry, I just think they made Ryan too dumb for him to have any real chemistry with Tessa. Chemistry is not just about the physical. Two great looking people can have terrible chemistry together. And they made him out to be such a buffoon, it always seemed to me like she'd have to dumb herself down to even have a conversation with him. That's not chemistry, to me. Being your truest self with someone, for both parties, and having a connection based on that authenticity, is what chemistry is for me. Not one person trying to bring themselves up to someone else's level while that person censors a part of themselves to make the other one not feel bad.

And yeah, that's true that the circumstances with the Ryan breakup would make things more difficult to move on, since she'd feel regret that she did the wrong thing. I just think we're looking at this through a real-life lens, and given that it's TV, we're supposed to be all like, "Awww, Tessa and Ryan forever! They finally found each other!"

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I think you're forgetting what it's like to be a teenager. For the most part it is about hormones. And once she started to get to know him and to also know that the smart ones can be just as ridiculous and maybe even more of a douche than a jock can be, she realized that a nice guy she enjoys kissing is not a bad option. It just didn't seem like a stretch to me.

And we're not supposed to "believe" anything except what we want to interpret. I interpret the end of all those teen movies as they resolved those differences and got together in the moment, but it probably won't last, but it's cute to see some character growth. I pretty much think that about the adult movies as well as most of those adults don't seem like they should work as couples at all. I interpret that these two characters really like each other and have now acknowledged it and can now determine how to move forward. Nothing more, nothing less.

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And we're not supposed to "believe" anything except what we want to interpret.


But you don't know that. Maybe the writers do have some grand Ryan-Tessa vision like they did for Lisa and Malik, in spite their young age.

And regardless, what I'm saying is I don't see chemistry between them. Tessa is a fictional character, so we can talk till the cows come home about what we believe she feels for Ryan based on his niceness, hotness, etc. But as a viewer, the manifestation of that left me cold. There have been plenty young couples portrayed in TV and movies who I did root for because the chemistry was there for me. It's not about me not being in touch with what it's like to be young and in love. I'm not even very far out of my teens.

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I agree, dumb writing, it never made sense other than o be a terrible plot device.

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I have season 3 stored up and just finished season 2. I skimmed through much of these season 2 episodes because I didn't think either Ryan-Tessa or George-Dallas were watchable couples, especially Tessa who I thought would never be with a dumb brick like Ryan.

I like each character separately but as couples - definitely not for me. Noah cracked me up a lot just with his crazy faces. Lisa's insanity also never failed to please, especially when she was Meowing "Eye Of The Tiger".

I still don't know why they didn't name the show "Suburbatory".

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I still don't know why they didn't name the show "Suburbatory"
Because they are trying to get across the point that the place is like a purgatory. You can't get that across without the "g". "Suburbatory" sounds like a cross between suburb and laboratory.

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Totes agree. I still care more about George and Dallas than I do Tessa and Ryan. There was absolutely nothing interesting between them.

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Their relationship sort of came out of left field. Ryan had a crush on Tessa. She was not attracted to him, then "fell" for him. Suddenly they're together for not very long and Ryan's college choice is for some reason heavily dependent of their relationship, like they're planning their future together. They break up, have sex once without apparently doing nothing else leading up to it, and she's still hung up on him.

It's the same with Lisa & Malik. He has a crush on her that she doesn't reciprocate, then she does, they break up for a stupid reason, and then it's a rush to get married. On a school night.

These are some of the show's many plot holes. Chatswin is supposedly filled with sexually repressed uptight prudes like Sheila but according to Mr. Wolf's record there are no virgins attending Chatswin High and the school has extensive provisions for married students.

I can't wrap my head around Chatswin economics. George is supposed to be an architect but he's dubbed the "skylight king" like he installs them, and he can afford to live in an upscale neighborhood like Chatswin without really working. Fred goes from being a salesmen to a junior secretary while Sheila magically becomes a realtor yet they maintain their lifestyle.

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