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reason for NBC not picking it up


Does anyone know the inside scoop on why it wasn't picked up? and not the, " cuz it sucked balls" reason.

you'd think nbc would at least try the pilot since 'the cape' and 'bionic woman' was given a chance not to mention any of the other failed shows nbc, and other networks, have put out there.

guess i'm just annoyed b/c i wanted to at least see the pilot. i mean, the money's put into it already, just finish up the graphics and give it a try

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This might give you an idea as to why, obviously there are spoilers.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2011/06/robs_wonder_woman_tv_pilot_faq.php

As always, that is just my opinion.

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Eh, I liked it. I thought torturing a bed ridden villain was in poor form (we never see it, it's only implied), and rather than throwing a pipe at a security guard's throat a bullet she deflected might have just been deflected back at him.

Those two fixed would have saved this pilot.

Oh well.

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Because it has bomb and mid-season cancellation written all over it? Are there so few ORIGINAL ideas that they have to remake BAD 70's and 80's TV shows? This show has FAIL written all over it.

It boggles my mind that they are going to remake Charlie’s Angels as well. Too funny, as if the movies weren’t god awful enough.

Between the lame brained fake “reality” shows and the BAD remakes, no wonder I very rarely watch tv anymore.

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Wow, Charlie's angel? LOL.

I guess i see wonder woman apart from just a 70's tv show because i never watched that. There are comics, and animated tv shows and movies w/ Wonder Woman that i REALLY liked. and, for me, it would be cool to see a live-action version show or movie.

you are right though, i do seem to be watching less and less tv, especially since the reality show explosion

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And for someone to say a new Wonder Woman series is a bad idea because they didn't like the old series is like saying they never should have made a new 'Battle Star Galactica' series because they didn't care for the old one. If done properly a Wonder Woman series or film could be just as good as any other.

I think it's true that the general public just doesn't accept female heroes like they do male. Sure there is the occasional Buffy or Xena, but they are the exceptions to that rule. For every Xena there is a failed project like Supergirl

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088206/

or Elecktra

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357277/

or Catwomen

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0327554/

Or 'Bionic Women' remake or 'Sarah Conner Chronicles'....

Female superheros and action heroes, in general, don't catch on for more than one movie or season as the lead. If the films or series stink, why weren't they given the same kind of treatment in production or budgets as their male counterparts often are? I don't know the answer, but it seem sexist.

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there are just as many failed men hero shows as women ones. The Cape and Knight Rider are just two.

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What is it about Wonder Woman that makes people (in general) seem incapable of taking her seriously as a superhero? She's the most iconic of all heroines and yet she seems to get the least respect

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Unfortunately true...

"Every legend must come to an end, Rx” --Snake-Eyes (ChemicalX)

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well at least they tried......

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It's her sex appeal that makes her the most iconic superheroine yet it's also the thing that makes her hard to be taken seriously as a crime fighter. In real life, she would be a very hard character to design, the balance has to be almost perfect for a film/show to be successful, not to mention a good script needed too.

The only wonder woman appearance I enjoyed watching (for the story too :D) was in the 2001 justice league cartoon series.

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Well, honestly, it is because it sucked balls. It really sucked balls, badly.

Here's a bit more into that:
I watched about 35 minutes of the pilot last night. That, honestly, was about all I could tolerate. I am someone that does give things a chance, understanding it's a pilot, limited budgets, etc. Things need time to gain a following and enough revenue to go further.

The effects were ok for TV. Nothing spectacular but not terribly disappointing. The story was not engaging. I'll give credit that it wasn't another lame origin story that we normally see for s super hero. While her history appears to be different from what we already know of WW, they really didn't spend much time on it. The plot though could have been good, but the script supporting wasn't that good. Also, the delivery of the lines didn't help. It seemed, to me, that everyone was rushing through their lines. The acting just wasn't enough to suspend belief.

Finally, their idea that WW is not only a super hero, but the head of a company that fights crime all the while be funded by selling it's own merchandise (WW dolls and accessories), all the while holding press conferences revealing to the world who the bad gal is with promises to hunt her down and kill her just didn't fly. Meanwhile, she is at odds with the cops and the Justice Department about how she's screwing them up by violating villains rights didn't help.

All in all, it was just lame.

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yeh it was bad BUT you say the effects were ok but they were not even finished and 90% of them were not even added lol

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I actually liked it, but I think the reason it wasn't picked up because it was too violent for TV.

I liked that this show made her realistic....she was sort of like Batman, except she's an amazon...which was not yet confirmed....but hinted at. She fights crime and is not hiding that fact yet feels alone like an A list celebrity. I thought Palicki did a wonderful job as WW actually. The mention of her boobs and the violence is what I think doomed the show. It seemed like the show was geared towards men and not boys....although I watched it with my mom...and she liked it as well and she's 50+. I did notice the pilot wasn't even finished though as far as FX goes and they were still decent. Good wire work and some good stunts. This WW really tossed people around like ragdolls unlike the 70's version. Her lasso didn't seem to be used as the truth telling lasso....just to wrangle in peeps and toss them around. She actually kills someone in the pilot too in a graphic way which would not be so great for network TV in my opinion. The show was too much of something...and even though I'd watch it... I certianly see why it wasn't picked up. I think it was more interesting than The Cape and that had at least 1 season. It's a shame it didn't have enough clout to get made into a mini-series at least because I liked the talent pool on the show.


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That's what bothered me that she so needlessly killed someone like that. Yeah he was shooting at her. But it seems to me with her lasso she had a better option than to spike him in the head. And I HATED that she goes all 24 on the bad guy and tortures information out of him. WTF? That's not something I want to watch every week. And her company makes most of their money out of Action figures of her?!

I didn't need a full-blown origin story to buy into this, but it would be nice to know where she got her abilities.

And making Steve Trevor such a wimp was a terrible move. If he was supposed to be an eventual love interest, he'd need to be as strong (emotionally and in terms of presence) as she is. But he's a little boy.

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what bothered me that she so needlessly killed someone like that.

thank you for seriously attempting to answer the OP - and i quite agree. for people who say this is in character with the comic I SAY those people clearly are not reading the comic. i've read hundreds of issues wonder woman and she avoids needless killing at all costs. in FACT, she's so amazing partly because she never needs to torture

HATED that she goes all 24 on the bad guy and tortures information out of him. WTF?


people for information. THAT IS WHAT THE LASSO OF TRUTH IS FOR. the ignorant writers have her using it as a sort of high-tech cowgirl lasso, for reining loose criminals in, when in FACT, the LASSO IS HER BIGGEST POWER. when inside the lasso, one is COMPELLED to tell the truth, and even to SEE THE TRUTH whereas before their own perspective was clouded. what if they invented a new superman who couldn't fly? a green lantern with no ring? THAT IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO WW by making her lasso a flaccid toy. and like bbockatmacdotcom says, they've turned her into a bit of a monster that we don't look up to, but rather feel forced to question.

the TRUE wonder woman is on a high moral pedestal. she does not let us down on this score again and again in a given episode without an explanation why. (to keep it canon i imagine explaining this whole episode away with a reveal that the real wonder woman was captured, held prisoner and replaced with a changeling imposter) -- if this fantasy helps you block david kelley's mutant interpretation from your mind, then believe my version.

to further respond to the OP, while i don't LIKE the pants suit (who approved THAT? blind members of the AARP?) i wouldn't disqualify the show based on her outfit. i've been looking forward to the new incarnation of wonder woman WAY too long for that. no, sadly the problem is the writing, the direction, and the casting of wonder woman herself. palicki is pretty enough that i can see why they AUDITIONED her, but to cast her? truly the directors must have been on some kind of meds throughout. she is a good enough actress for a sitcom, but not for an iconic role like WW. she played her like she'd play an ally mcbeal lawyer, very mainstream mundane with zero charisma. honestly, her under-acting in the scene with willis and her response to hear about his passing were so off-putting that it's clearly director-error to not at least try to get some emotion into this brunette barbie-girl. clearly palicki does not have the BASE HUMILITY to watch a few lynda carter episodes, to understand the type of magic she should be bringing to the production. i was ready for a young woman to bring carter's magic to play, to even outdo her, but palicki belongs on gossip girl or one tree hill and is not in this league.

if whedon redoes this, he should bring back the original WW themesong, but rebooted, and play it for dramatic effect during a press conference that builds energy - this whole thing was so lacking in energy it almost put me to sleep. not the way you want to feel after watching A PILOT episode.

lastly, wonder woman is NOT superman, nor batman - she is not simply out for the pursuit of justice, as portrayed here. she left paradise island, her home, to come to man's world to teach us to live in peace and harmony - thus she is always written as an inspiring character. here, she is more depressing and disappointing than rachel mcadams in the notebook, which we find her watching.

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All I can talk about is what was there, not what isn't. Mostly, it was her running and jumping on/over some cars and her jet (or jets, as I think there were three on the building when she landed). The running scene in the beginning was about what I would expect on a TV show in this day. Same goes for the jet flying around. Nothing special or spectacular, just OK. As for anything else, not from what I saw for the 30 odd minutes I struggled through in watching it.

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i seen the pilot and i wonder why they havent i actually liked it

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Is there anywhere online where you can still watch the pilot?


When I was a kid I used to enjoy it when the networks (or maybe just ABC) would show their unsold pilots during the summer. Two of my favorite unsold pilots from back then were Northstar and Samurai.

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This was the stupidest show they could have tried to make even though I would rather see this over "The Cape" and "Heroes" anyday. With these lame shows like "Heroes" and the "new" remakes they are trying to get on the air I can't believe they haven't gone for the obvious and something that would actually be good - a "Rush Hour" TV show. "Rush Hour 3" had "make me into a TV show" written all over it. Nick

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Do you think Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker would commit to doing a weekly show? That's probably the main reason.

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Commit to what would be the most successful TV show of all time and make them billionaires? I do not see why not. I can't remember anything other than "Rush Hour" that Chris Tucker has done in almost 15 years and Jackie Chan has had some hits here and there but nothing on the scale of "Rush Hour" and that goes for director Bret Ratner too. They could all get in on this show with no problem. I say do 1 more movie then take it to TV because that is where it needs to be. Nick

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A Rush Hour TV show would crash and burn within a matter of weeks. Even beyond that, there's no way that Jackie Chan would ever commit to something that require him to be in the States for such an extended period. Jackie Chan's blockbusters are movies that he does so that he can get the budget to do the movies that he WANTS to do...and those are all done back in Hong Kong.

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Not sure how long she could have done the series without any problems, at least through the middle of next year, because it was announced around a month or so (give or take a week or two) that she and Jared are expecting their first child.

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You should really try putting in some thought instead of posting whatever pops into the old noodle. You say this was the stupidest show they could have made and in the same breath say you would rather watch it then the cape or heroes? So are you admitting you would like to watch the stupidest show that NBC could possibly conceive? And a rush hour show? Really? If Rush Hour showed us anything, it's that the series needs to end now while it's still somewhat coherent. Plus all the things that made the first Rush Hour so good would be way over budget for a tv show. Definitely not the type of material that people could digest week in and week out.

-If the devil really does interfere in this world we've seen his work

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Yes because it's not like they did shows in the 80's that are on par with what would be put into a "Rush Hour" TV show i.e. "Miami Vice", "Dallas" dumbass.

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Okay I'm gonna pretend that your previous statement makes sense. Second of all Rush Hour is the only Chris Tucker movie you've heard of? Jackie has hits here and there but nothing on the level of Rush Hour? Rush Hour would be the best show and make them Billionaires??? Ignorance truly is bliss. And just exactly would you explain that Jackie Chan came to the US, became a US citizen and then became a US cop or vice versa genius? What type of case by week shenanigans would keep this show going or better yet propel it to "Best Show Ever" status as you so eloquently put it? IMDB take a look at this poster. He is the prime target that most television writers are aiming and thus responsible for the sludge that they have been slinging at us and calling it entertainment. Stand up and take a bow Nick.

-If the devil really does interfere in this world we've seen his work

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that would be up to the writers and developers of the show to come up with retard. Do you think the "Rush Hour" scenerio is the most complex thing ever thought of with no way to explain these minor details and think of show ideas?

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I'm sorry that my last post went over your head. I'll speak in layman's terms for you. The reason that there are no writers and developers for this show is because the premise is silly and just simply wouldn't work. Perhaps you don't understand how hard it is for an immigrant to become a police officer. And I'm sure the scenario isn't complex because if it was your simple brain would not be entertained by it. Everyone except you realizes that the Rush Hour franchise was stale after the first movie. On top of all that people don't become billionaires off of shows like this. Name me one time where that's happened. I really hope you are just a very young person because you are way to dumb to be an adult or god forbid someone's parent. Stay in school kid and just say no to drugs or whatever it is that's wrong with you.

-If the devil really does interfere in this world we've seen his work

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yes and I bet the billion dollars the franchise has made so far is stale too. Jerry Seinfeld became half a billionaire from Seinfeld not counting the DVD and syndication money. There have been plenty of immigrant police officers so I have no idea what your point is there and I didn't even like part 2 or 3 especially 2 but am smart enough to see potential for a good and entertaining TV show. No matter if they can revive the franchise with with "Rush Hour 4" or if it remains stale the movie will still make a quarter million or more at the US box office and until that money goes away there will be Rush Hour movies and potentially a TV show. So you can go make your half assed documentary about immigrant police officers that will not make a penny while the rest of us spend our time with real entertainment. Keep whining about Rush Hour, I bet your dumbass spent money on all 3 movies and are saving up for the 4th. Nick

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You again? Okay firstly making half a billion dollars doesn't make someone a billionaire so try again. *shakes head*. Secondly Rush Hour one grossed $244,386,864 worldwide. Rush Hour 2 grossed $141,186,864. The third film grossed $255,045,928. And I'm assuming you can't add so I'll just go ahead and let you know that doesn't add up to a billion. Also grossing is not profit. So the net gain of this franchise is nowhere near a billion. And that's not me bashing the franchise because I'm actually a fan of all three movies but I just have sense enough to know that they aren't "great" by any means and there isn't enough substance there to make a weekly show out of it. Do you really believe that Lee would move to America, go through the rigorous trials to become a US citizen and then start all the way over in the police force just because he has a friend here that is a police officer. Not to mention you can't control who you partner up with once you're on the force. You couldn't get Uwe Boll to take your premise seriously. The fact that you say WW is the stupidest idea NBC ever came up with but you would still be willing to watch it lets me know you just like stupid stuff which in turn doesn't say alot about your mental aptitude. So go ahead and make up some more figures and say billion dollar this and billionaire that. "It just let me know how full of $h!t you are." See what I did there?

-If the devil really does interfere in this world we've seen his work

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DVD sales put it well over the billion dollar mark not to mention global box office retard. And Lee will do whatever the script says he will do dumbass. And when did I say I was willing to watch anything? Learn to read tard. Nick

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"This was the stupidest show they could have tried to make even though I would rather see this over "The Cape" and "Heroes" anyday." Remember that? You said that stupid. Go back a few posts and check what you said because obviously there's not much room in that brain of yours left for the memory of something you said only days ago. There is no script that will tell Lee to do that because it's a very stupid idea. I dont know how else to explain that to you. I mean I'm sure you think it's a genious idea but...look at you. You should learn to read as well. The amounts that the films grossed(which I posted in my last post) are worldwide. You might wanna try rereading the post and sound out the words this time or ask for a grownup if you need help. You have no evidence over what they sold in dvds. And they don't rake in the whole 10.99 that we spend on DVDs. It is a small percentage. There's no way that this silly idea you have could be "the best show ever" as you so put it (hence the reason why it would never happen) nor would it make anyone a billionaire as proven by all the evidence I showed you and even you couldn't find any record of a show making somemone a billion dollars (thanks for helping me prove my point). And stop getting so defensive just learn from this loss. I'm just trying to teach you not to post dumb things and open yourself up for people like me. This is by far the easiest argument I ever won. It's been fun nick.

-If the devil really does interfere in this world we've seen his work

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I would rather watch it over those shows, doesn't mean I am going to loser. I might have checked it out once to kill time and see how stupid it is and that is about all. The grosses you posted were US box office only moron. Add the rest of the global box office and the figure will double. Movies that make that kind of money at the box office typically have video sales in the mid 9 figures dumbass.

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Look nick I've seen other posts of yours and i believe it's fair to say that you are just an idiot trying to come off sounding smart until someone disagrees then you say they are "faggy" and "dumbasses" and "tards". So lets just agree that you don't know what you are talking about. There obviously a dozen other people on these boards that have openly tried show you how dumb you are but it is such a deep rooted dumbness that you believe everyone else the inferior. So go kill some more time watching soon to be canceled bull$hit that you claim is good entertainment. I'll continue watching quality cinema that you could never comprehend in a million years. You're done son. Now stop making yourself look like a fool okay? Conversation is done.

-If the devil really does interfere in this world we've seen his work

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the typical "final" post of a loser.

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Is there anywhere online where you can still watch the pilot?


You can see it here, although there's a track with two young fellows reviewing it that at times distracts from the pilot itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP2s9QvQVZA

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... I work for a Bay area television station... and when we were sent this... abomination... It just did not work. Cary Ewles (however its spelt. *beep* robin Hood, men in tights! ) did a great job. Wonder woman was indeed good looking, but the writing and the directing was absolutely horrendous.

I swear on my children, It was like watching something a 15 year old wrote.

All the CGI and action scenes won't save this... complete and utter mess.

If you're an avid comic fan (hell, if you're a fan on how real life unfolds), you might want to avoid this show.

The only warning I have: you're going to need to watch it twice if you're a guy. I couldn't follow anything the first time through, as the actress who portrays WW is a bombshell.

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I'm surprised that no one on this thread commented on the fact that this NEW "Wonder Woman" wears LONG PANTS as part of her costume, rather than the traditional short shorts the original WW wore.

Remember Lynda Carter in those shorts? How can we forget? Even when the scripts were lame and the acting lamer, we could still stay awake by eying LC's magnificent thighs. I always thought that was one of the Wonder Woman character's great strengths. You couldn't turn off the show, because you were fixated on those long, luscious legs!

Now look. They've gone and taken Adrienne Palicki, who is a wonderful actress, and put her into a G-D PANTS SUIT! That, my friends, is no way to treat one of America's great treasures. (Make that TWO great treasures.) Wonder Woman NEEDS those fabulous gams to hold our attention.

You've seen pics of Ms. Palicki in her new pants suit costume; now take a look at her, posing with a fan, in the TRADITIONAL Wonder Woman costume:


http://imgur.com/3DtT3IU

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English subtitles are a MUST on all DVD releases!

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Did you see the pilot?!

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Point taken.

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frankly the only thing that pops in my mind why no one wants to take on this "wonder woman" version is that the costume was altered. remake all you like or personalize the story all you can but NEVER EVER TOUCH THE ORIGINAL COSTUME (unless they will do this like smallville then I can understand but its not so..).


or maybe this girl has no pretty legs that`s why she was made to wear pants....

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frankly the only thing that pops in my mind why no one wants to take on this "wonder woman" version is that the costume was altered. remake all you like or personalize the story all you can but NEVER EVER TOUCH THE ORIGINAL COSTUME (unless they will do this like smallville then I can understand but its not so..).


or maybe this girl has no pretty legs that`s why she was made to wear pants....

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She actually wears at least two versions of the costume in the pilot. In the big fight scene at the end she is wearing the hot-pants. btw, her body is the only great thing in this show.

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