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Anyone knows what happened to South America and Australia?

posted 7 years ago by ericfranco
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Are they occupied as well? Did they lose? Were they obliterated as well?

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[–] NotASpeckOfCereal 7 years ago

There is dialog in the first few episodes that talks about dividing up "the Americas", so I assume that meant including South America.

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[–] NotASpeckOfCereal 7 years ago

Also, although Africa was not asked about, I add here for completeness: apparently, the Reich has enslaved the entire continent, according to dialog in episode 7 or 8.

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[–] tay-15 7 years ago

I read the novel recently. At least as far as that goes, (I think) I recall brief mention that Japan controls Australia and also either some or all of South America. I notice some online maps show SA split between Japan and Germany, but I just don't remember that detail. And I've no idea if the TV series made any changes, not having seen it.

Overall, the "geographical" details in the novel are hazy, or mentioned fleetingly or in passing, even regarding the U.S.

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[–] wormholeboy 7 years ago

Your recollection of the novel is correct -- Australia is controlled by Japan; South America is divided between the Germans and Japanese. We don't know for sure if the show is following the novel on those points.

[–] wormholeboy 7 years ago

Update: Someone has already grabbed a screen capture of the school map in the new episodes, which shows everything except Indonesia, Australia, NZ, and part of Oceania:
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/th2egbeg4qmuxvhiwone.jpg

Interestingly, (a) there doesn't appear to be any separate coloring for Italian-controlled territories, (b) the Germans appear to have left the pre-WW2 colonial boundaries in Africa relatively unchanged, and (c) there are substantial neutral zones in South America and Central Siberia/Central Asia between German and Japanese occupied/influenced territories.

[–] Petronius Arbiter II 7 years ago

Interesting that there appear to be large neutral zones in South America and Western Siberia as well. But I do find it a bit implausible they would leave that much of mineral-rich Bolivia in their South American neutral zone, as well as so much of the upper Amazon, which is a vast treasure trove of botanical diversity and the original source of so many modern pharmaceuticals.

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