Americans are too fat but also starving?
Glad to see a film trying to help those in need, but it seems like u guys have enough food, you just need to spread it around.
shareIt's not about having enough food, it's about having enough of the right food. Sugary, salty, fatty crap food is everywhere and it's super cheap. You eat that stuff every day and you get fat and get unhealthy. Meanwhile foods that are healthy and good for you are either unavailable or really expensive.
I've run into this myself. Last weekend I wanted to buy a bag of cherries which ran me close to $10 (which could buy me around 7-8 bags of potato chips or boxes of hostess crap). Orange Juice is close to $5 bucks (which I could buy 3-4 bottles of 2 liter Pepsi/Coke).
Now I don't have any kids to feed, just myself, so I can afford to pay extra for the good food, but I hate to think about being forced to feed my kids and myself the crappy food because it's cheaper and more plentiful.
That $15 bucks I end up spending on orange juice and fruit can buy me a whole lot more junk food that's much worse for me.
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^ Well said, C.S.Wood.
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Orange Juice is close to $5 bucks (which I could buy 3-4 bottles of 2 liter Pepsi/Coke).
Ever thought about switching to water? Surely it's all a body needs when Coke doesn't sprout from trees in nature. Ever thought about planting your own cherry tree?
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Ever thought about switching to water? Surely it's all a body needs when Coke doesn't sprout from trees in nature. Ever thought about planting your own cherry tree?
Well personally I'd rather drink dirty water than Pepsi or Coke, but that wasn't the point. Orange Juice is a source of vitamin C, just like milk is a source of vitamin D. The point is these liquids that are much healthier to drink than sugary sodas, cost so much more than those sugar sodas, and you can get a higher volume of those sugar sodas for less money than milk or orange juice when it should be the reverse.
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Ever thought about just eating oranges? I know Californian oranges suck but they're probably used in the orange juice you're drinking anyways. (and well last I checked oranges are 100% fruit and not 25% fruit and 75% water and sugar like most OJ is these days)
Stop making excuses if you wanted to live both healthy and cheap you could. I feel the problem here is one of convenience.
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Ever thought about just eating oranges? I know Californian oranges suck but they're probably used in the orange juice you're drinking anyways. (and well last I checked oranges are 100% fruit and not 25% fruit and 75% water and sugar like most OJ is these days)
Stop making excuses if you wanted to live both healthy and cheap you could. I feel the problem here is one of convenience.
Oh excuse me, you're so right. I mean if I want milk why be lazy and buy it at the store when I can just go get my own cow? Or why be lazy and buy vegetables in a bag instead of growing them in my back yard for free?
Snark aside, you're missing the point, which is that stuff like processed foods and drinks cost less than stuff that is good for you. And how many oranges would one have to squeeze to feed any entire family? This food problem affects families more than it does single people.
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Processed foods cost less for many reasons, the chief being it's cheaper to store and doesn't go bad as quickly.
shareThose sweet corn subsidies (from which the sugars in processed foods are made) help a lot.
I think what a lot of people are missing is that at the end of the day you need at least 1200 kCal to survive and about 2000 kCal for an average person. It doesn't matter where those calories are from, you need them. So drinking water, or getting apples or cherries from your garden, while being healthy is not going to cut it because water even if it's cheap doesn't nourish you and fruits and vegetables from you garden aren't available all year long (plus if you're living in the Nevada desert or in New York good luck with those).
With $3 a day for food, you don't get to buy fruits, vegetables and all those healthy foods, you get processed foods with loads of sugar and fats. And even when you only buy those bad processed foods you're starving at the end of the month.
So now imagine you got $6 a day for food and all that time all you have been buying is cheap processed food, 90% of the time those guys won't change their habits and still buy those bad foods but in bigger quantities.
That's why starvation and obesity are so close when you look at lower income households.
Hmm this discussion reminds me of excuses being like Ar5eholes.
That being that everybody has one.
It's never our fault is it?.
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Where do you get your facts and what is an average person? 2000 calories is for an average MAN, maybe. No woman (or perhaps a handful) should be eating anywhere near that amount. That's why food labels are ridiculous. They are based on 2000 calories but I bet more women read them than men and so they're basing decisions on false data.
It most certainly matters where my 1000 calories a day come from (I'm only 5 foot tall). If I were to eat 1000 calories of potato chips every single day instead of 1000 calories of vegetables and whole grains, you really don't think I'd be as healthy do you? It matters a great deal where those calories come from.
And you're eating too many (calories).
In this country it is virtually impossible to eat healthy and cheap. I know because I've been desperately trying. I've not been able to buy any fruit or fresh vegetables either. Not at all for several years. Try to eat peanut butter and jelly? It's a real process to find peanut butter without added sugar and more fat. Almost impossible to buy jelly without high fructose corn syrup instead of the natural fruit sugar. Of course buying without hfcs means a much higher cost and a really small jar. To buy healthy bread costs about 3-4 times what cheap, unhealthy, white bread costs. To be sure you can cut lunch to one sandwich with the healthier bread (due to heavier and more satisfying composition) but it's still more expensive than what "poor people" are eating. No wonder everyone is fat. It can't be escaped and, if you do find a way out or around it, it will cost double or triple which means only really rich people can afford to eat healthy in this country. How long can I survive on peanut butter and jelly? What could possibly be more convenient. You have no idea what you're talking about and no idea what healthy food is. Fresh produce of all kinds is plentiful but I can't afford any.
shareYou should be eating oranges and not drinking orange juice. Orange juice is no healthier than "sugary sodas" because it's still just drinking sugar. The advantage that you get by eating the entire orange is the fiber, which slows the digestion process and allows the body to process the sugar at a much slower rate. Just doing that will keep you from diabetes. Don't know exactly how this "juice" thing started in this country. When we were kids and were thirsty our one and only choice was water. By the time I had my son, everyone was drinking juice (mostly sugar water), except us. If you're thirsty you should be drinking water as it is what the body is telling you it needs. We don't, as humans, have a "I need more sugar water" feeling.
shareI stand by you, C.S.Wood. Large corporations that are responsible for mass-produced, unhealthy food should not receive the bulk of government subsidies, instead those subsidies should go to the smaller-scale farmers that produce natural, healthy fruits and vegetables. If fruits and vegetables were as cheap as the disgusting, processed, sugary, trans-fatty foods, then obesity and malnutrition would not go hand-in-hand.
shareThis is the gist of it. Argue to your conservative friends that switching Farm Bill subsidies from agribusiness to small farms is supply-side economics! Lots more suppliers get the benefits.
shareSo true.
Also, we live in the city where there are entire neighborhoods that don't have a proper grocery store to shop at. Just local convenient stores selling mostly junk.
The wealthier suburbs and affluent city neighborhoods get a few, but for the most part people coming home after long days at work can't catch yet another five buses out to the "good areas" to get their healthy meals.
Swing away Merrill, swing away.
What about rice, beans and eggs sometimes?
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