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Marnie is such a hypocrite

posted 7 years ago by Pumpyjones
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And Hannah has been mourning losing Adam for longer than she dated him, even though she was the last one to reject him?

I personally don't understand how Jessa 'stole' Adam from Hannah when Hannah was in a one year relationship with Fran at the time they started dating. I know it sucks her friend is dating him, but the way Hannah is carrying on, you'd think she found them in bed together while she was still dating Adam.

Marnie did the exact same thing to Shoshanna, but it's never discussed and Marnie (who cheated on Desi with Charlie and not Ray with Desk) throws shade at Jessa like she's morally superior to her?

Are we not supposed to notice the similarities? Why does Marnie get a pass when Jessa is vilified? Does not compute.

[–] rochrok 7 years ago

Because this is Lena Dunham's stupid little fantasy world. I just laughed at the first few mins of the show with everyone smiling and telling her how right she is while reading her BS article.

[–] Pumpyjones 7 years ago

Why is she still not over this? I mean, I get it's hurtful and nobody would blame her for not wanting to hang out with Jessa anymore, but I still don't understand why she's acting like she was cheated on? She hadn't been with Adam in years and she rejected him, why was she writing such bad things about him in the story, like he left her for Jessa? She was practically living with another dude. It was truly weird when Hannah's mom was like 'what an a-hole!' while reading the story.

I still don't understand why everybody who hates Jessa doesn't also hate Marnie? Marnie is banging the first guy Shoshanna ever slept with and she's cheating on him. Marnie also slept with Hannah's gay ex, but she forgave her immediately. Wish the writing were at least consistent.

[–] jemima_ko 7 years ago

While we don't know what the article actually says, I gathered from the title that it's not so much that Adam was stolen by Jessa, but more that Jessa was stolen by Adam. Adam wanted Hannah back at one point but she rejected him. I think it's more the loss of her friend. That was my take anyway.

And also, Marnie is just the worst human being. She supposedly loves Ray, but just wants her own space. Then she gets all insecure about Ray and Shoshanna. She's incredibly selfish and self-absorbed. The divorce may give her convenient excuse to say "it's all about me" right now, but in reality that's how she's always been.

[–] Pumpyjones 7 years ago

Ah, that's an interesting take on the article. I still don't think it's Adams fault for 'stealing' Jessa, because A) you can't steal a person, they have to want to go with you, B) Jessa is the one who broke Hannah's trust, and C) Adam got rejected by her - what does he owe her at this point? He can't date Hannah but she also gets to choose who he sees? Hannah and Adam are not even currently friends and weren't even great friends when they were in love with each other.

Maybe it's because I'm older, but it just seems really immature for her to dwell so much. You gain and lose friends all the time as an adult. I wish they'd highlight Hannah's mental illness more, bc it might explain why she's perseverating on this so much. She has a right to be upset, but Adam didn't leave her on their wedding night and itnot like Jessa was her BFF. She managed to stay friends with Marnie after she banged Elijah.

Marnie is the worst. Ugh.

[–] jmftown9 7 years ago

First Jessa is directly responsible for their break up, so yeah you can say she stole Adam. If you remember she purposefully set him up with Mimi Rose, know full well he was cheat on her "dearest friend", because she wanted Mimi boyfriend for herself. She actually found the girl living in her apartment and Jesse causally admitted that she set them up. So Jessa is in no way innocent or sympathetic in this senior. While Hannah did break up with that in no way implied that she was doing it because she was emotionally over him. She did because, for once, she the right thing. As for Jessa and her and the betrayal hurts worse because if you go back to season 1 Hannah was her champion when no one wanted Jessa around. Marnie is alludes to a time Jessa slept with another friends boyfriend and then openly flirts with Charlie and asked Marnie if he had a girlfriend knowing full well they were together. This the same thing she did with the married couple and the guy from rehab. If this how Jessa treats her fiends I would hate to see how she treats her enimies. Honestly Hannah has been the only person who,has cared for her. Her family basically doesn't Bessie's Shosh. So in this case Hannah is not the problem or at fault. Hannah may do a lot of dumb ass things but this one is all on Jessa.

Marnie's sistuation, as far as Shosh goes, is complete different. First she did not break them up. Shosh was the one that did taynwhen she cheated on him and it's the door man at her friends party. Second Shosh cheated on him and then broke up with him because she felt guilty. The cheating makes it totally different.

[–] random_guy85 7 years ago

How did Jess cause their breakup?

[–] jemima_ko 7 years ago

She didn't. At least not from what I remember.

Feel free to correct me as I haven't rewatched the previous seasons, but what I remember is this. Hannah went away to grad school in Iowa or Idaho or something. She left Adam in New York, still living in her apartment but their relationship status was kinda up in the air. He started dating Mimi-Rose who ended moving in with Adam into Hannah's apartment. Jessa was still in contact with Adam, but only platonically at that time.

Eventually Hannah came back, was devastated to see that Adam had moved on without telling her, but eventually came to like Mimi-Rose. Adam and Mimi-Rose eventually broke up, and Adam wanted Hannah back to which Hannah rejected him. I remember a season finale with Hannah and Fran together, happy.

That's the last I remember really as far as Hannah and Adam were concerned. While that doesn't really excuse Jessa of breaking the "friend code" of not dating your friend's ex, she didn't break them up.

I really think that Hannah misses her friend Jessa more than Adam.

[–] random_guy85 7 years ago

That's why I was confused by the other guy saying she did.

[–] rochrok 7 years ago

Hannah was out of town and all but pushed Adam from her life. Jess may have set him up for selfish reasons but she was right to tell Hannah that she's stupid for expecting everyone's lives to end when she left. People are allowed to move on when you leave. Don't want them to? Don't leave them or at least make the effort to contact them. Hannah did her stupid writing workshop because she was jealous of Adam's success and independence.

Whether Hannah is emotionally over Adam does not matter. She DUMPED HIM. That is the end of it. You dump someone, you have set them free to be with whomever they choose.

Jessa choose to end her friendship with Hannah, Hannah's beef should solely be with Jessa, or they could try to mend their friendship. But Jessa should not have to leave Adam for that to be possible.

[–] Pumpyjones 7 years ago

This is how I feel. I get why Hannah would be upset with Jess, because of the 'friend code' (though I'd like to reiterate the friend code apparently doesn't apply to Marnie when she sleeps with Elijah or Ray), but Adam owes her nothing. Anyway, why is she obsessing about it when she dated a guy seriously for a full year after Adam?

[–] Pumpyjones 7 years ago

That's reaching. Jessa is not directly responsible for their breakup. She wasn't dating Adam and she didn't force him to go out with Mimi. Adam and Hannah were responsible for their breakup, because they were the ones in the couple. She didn't make him dump Hannah at gunpoint. If I remember correctly, Adam was under the impression that Hannah dumped him?

Shoshanna WAS hurt when Marnie slept with Ray the first time. Are you blocking that out? She's probably just gotten used to it now. Marnie also slept with Elijah.