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Girl in the bar who had a boyfriend


If he wanted to discretely get her info or even run off somewhere and bang her, he could have easily done that. She was obviously ready to cheat on her clown boyfriend who's probably terrible in bed. So I'm assuming Brandon just felt like a worthless piece of garbage at that point and he wanted to get his ass kicked. Yes?

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Obviously. He wanted to be beaten to feel something, physically, but something therefore he provoked. He didn't care at all for the girl and he knew very well she had a boyfriend, a huge one too, that's why he chose her.

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Yeah he was going through a destructive phase and he did it cos he thought he needed to be punished I guess. It's like why some depressed people cut themselves. To feel something, and possibly to punish themselves cos they deem themselves to deserve it

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Smell it!

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This is the only scene I found badly acted in the film. Even if it was Michael Fassbender himself, I would have slapped him and call my boyfriend.

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This scene was awful and ruined the film for me. There is no way on earth a woman would allow herself to be touched like that by a stranger in a public bar let alone while her chap is standing behind her.

I recon the director got carried away and included one of his fantasies.

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Stuff like that happens all the time. In fact, this is one of the cases where he had to tone it down for the movie to make it more believable/palatable.

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so you wouldn't let a woman you are attracted to touch your crotch in a bar while there with your gf?

not everyone on the planet is boring, not every woman is the innocent princess stereotype you seem to think they are.

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My guess is that she was the twisted one, getting some kind of kick out having her boyfriend get aggravated over her. This primal thing about females wanting men to fight over them. This would explain why she never really answered any of his questions since she didn't want to ruin it.

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one of Best scene of ever ... maybe you just don't like does his fantasies
and last thing this girl..clearly has some addiction..so..Brandon is so emphatic and was simple for him..

"To photograph: it is to put on the same line of sight the head, the eye and the heart."HCB

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It wasn't so much that he wanted to get his ass kicked, but rather that he didn't care anymore if he gets his ass kicked. I think Brandon was in need of a real human connection with another person, and he was being tired of the superficiality of the big city. He doesn't know how to get a connection with another human in NYC, because all the people he meets are superficial, selfish and are only after being associated with success (his success; and often through sex). Everyone he meets is after casual sex, and dismissing any attempt at a meaningful relationship. (Brandon thought his female work colleague was different and that he could have a meaningful relationship with her, but eventually he found out she really wasn't; that's why he couldn't continue to have sex with her. He realized that in her eyes, he was just a "score" (or that his behaviour was corrupting her into that kind of mindset), and he didn't like that.)

The girl at the bar was a skank. She was eyeing Brandon because she regards him as an upgrade (her own boyfriend was a blue-collar guy). Brandon knew her motives and that she shouldn't be making contact with him. So he takes it to the extreme by grabbing her crotch and fondling her in such an overt manner in order to make a point: that she's a skank. He's essentially trying to insult her and scare her away, because he actually doesn't appreciate her attention. But instead of being insulted, she lets him do it. So he makes it a point to the boyfriend, showing him what a superficial skank his girlfriend is (and how rotten relationships in this city are).

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He's the type that when he gets too much stress he engages in dangerous/self-destructive activities.

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