I didn't get it *spoilers* - Anna (2014) Discussion

There was nothing to get! For christ's sake! Move on. A stupid story with good actors. What a waste.

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[–] Dejay 10 years ago

Good question. Especially, couldn't she just pretend to be normal to get out of the house lol.

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[–] kaskait 10 years ago

It happened the way it happened because that was how they wanted the movie to end irregardless of whether it made sense.

Why did she frame him? Because he wanted Judith and not her. Of course she could have gotten out on her own. But she liked John, probably liked him long before he arrived at the house. Most of it was a ruse to keep him coming back and paying attention to her. Who knows how she is getting along, probably living a life of preying on lecherous men. She doesn't really care about who she destroys.

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[–] PrincessMoFo 10 years ago

irregardless isn't a word.. you mean regardless.

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[–] type-club 10 years ago

agree OP - this movie did not make a lot of sense!!

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[–] alexandriseleftherios 10 years ago

Exactly my thoughts as well.
Anna was a disturbed person. She likes destroying other peoples lives. So far so good.

She let her photographer teacher to rot in jail. But she send her photo to John after he got in jail. She knew that by sending her photo she was proving that she's alive. So John would be set free from prison.
Why she did that? She had feelings for John? What about the other guy the photographer? Did they realise him too?

And now what? Anna is going to live the rest of her life hiding from police?
Why she needed John at first place? She could leave her house any time she wanted to.

The movie was nice but at the end they ruined it. Good movie decent acting interesting plot, but at the end the movie left me with so many questions !!!

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[–] DracoDrake 10 years ago

This is my thought about your questions, it could be the fact but this might be also true intention.

1)At the time she was still a minor (under legal age) so her parents have the right to say or/and make impotent decisions. In the last chapter she said that her steph-dad allegedly want to control her wealth inheritance so that's why supposedly her steph-dad wants the acknowledgement that shes not competent.
To hook on this thought, she is intelligent to make plan that is most benefit to her, and she reach a legal age.

2)She didn't want to kill anyone, she also stated that somewhere in the movie. Her thought probably also that it is not beneficial if she would kill anyone. She drugged her parents so they wont see her mastermind plans/events.
The blood is of her own so she could frame John to get the attention away of her.

3)There was no murder, cops would've think that John only would've know where she supposedly be buried.

4)I think there was no real crime committed and that after the reveal that she is still alive they would've figured it out what her plan was.

5)I think her mother would still be alive so inheritance is still for her, if her mother would choose so.

@Dejay She could've not have played normal as she was witness and/or suspect of the attempted murder of the girls while she was minor so she could not have been prosecuted at the time or the wealth of her parents could've buyed her out.

@Alex She is not a socio-path in my understanding as she didn't want to hurt anybody and as for the teacher dude in jail he was already a sort of sex offender as it is been showed in a scene. He was touching one of his students and/or her and probably made the photos of students what she might kept for later use.

My apologies for awful spelling and grammar as English is not my native language. Also i writed this early morning after no sleep xD

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[–] Xkape 10 years ago

"@Dejay She could've not have played normal as she was witness and/or suspect of the attempted murder of the girls while she was minor so she could not have been prosecuted at the time or the wealth of her parents could've buyed her out."

The only thing we have really is what that mind reader at the end said. That she set it up so she appeared murdered, her parents wouldn't search for her like they'd do if she just ran away. Which leads to another question. Why would John allow her parents to continue to think she was dead. Just makes no sense and is a bit sad if he does do this when you think about it. Or we could say that she may have allowed him to go free because she liked him which wasn't her plan in the first place meaning this whole thing was for nothing if he told her parents.

She allowed John to go free because she liked him and hoped he'd keep his mouth closed regarding her still being alive.

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[–] Natsu21 10 years ago

- By framing the mindreader she was able to give herself enough time to disappear. Had she just run away her parents wouldn't have stopped looking for her. This way she at least got enough time to make finding her very hard maybe impossible (she is really smart). Also she mentioned earlier in the movie that if she is dead then the step-father doesn't get any money, it all goes to charity. So that's another reason why she would want to appear like she was dead.

- Pretty much yes. See my comment above.

- She could have yes. But because her parents would then know she had run away, they would have looked for her. She was able to kill 2 birds with one stone. She got away with a head start and her step-father wouldn't get any money.

- If she had killed her parents it might have left to much evidence linking her to the crime. Also she would never be able to get John out of jail by revealing she was still alive, because then she would be chased by the police for the rest of her life. The blood was from Anna, she cut herself to set the scene John had killed her.

- This part of the movie was very poorly done. There is no way John would have enough time to hide her body before the police had got there. So them thinking that was pretty dumb and didn't make much sense.

- Not really no. it was that bad of a crime (compared to if she had actually killed her parents) so the police won't put as much effort in. It's also possible the movie is suggest she didn't break any laws so the cops wouldn't look for her.

- I'm not actually sure what laws she has broken, the movie seems to be going along the lines that she didn't break any laws and was just trying to be free. She didn't care about the money she only cared about getting away. She is a very smart girl and can easily find ways to make money. All that mattered to her was getting away.

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[–] DracoDrake 10 years ago

I like your thinking Natsu21. The movie intrigued me so much i watched it again in particular the thought of yours that John had not the time to hide the body.

As the scene progressed and it went to the past for a bit while John is interrogated, i came to believe that the idea of Anna and the police interrogator think of this scenario; she called the police before John did in surveillance room, she wounded herself to let believe that John was trying to kill her, she tried to flee (with success) the mastermind Anna planned scenario that she was able to escape John while wounded and died somewhere else maybe deep in the Forrest. This is what i think that she planned to play it out.

This is my logical explanation for that John didn't need to hide her as Anna planned that he had failed the murder didn't had the chance to successfully hide the body as he didn't get the time as he needed to kill her.

Sorry if i don't make perfect sense in describing, i have the hard time to follow myself in my explanation XD.
At first i thought it make no sense or some parts of the story, but now i'm convinced it is as solid as it gets what the writer meant with all.

I got the urge to write a review explain all the doubts people have but i think i lack good proper english. Would somebody like to prove read a review before i post so that the one can see my grammar/format/spelling problems and fix where needed?!

- Its always difficult to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. Prejudice always obscures truth.

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[–] Natsu21 10 years ago

I like your theory but it doesn't quite work. Because the same problem still applies that a body should have been found. If the police went along the thought process that Anna escaped and died in the forest somewhere, her body should have easily been found. With sniffer dogs and people searching the forest her body would turn up. If no body turns up and the police still have the same thought process that she was wounded but escaped, then they would search for Anna who they would suspect is alive but injured, which is what Anna doesn't want, she needed people to think she was dead, at least for awhile.

It's a good theory though. But the movie really made it so the officers thought John had just hidden the body somewhere. Even though he really had no time at all to hide the body. In the end the movie cut corners here, had this been a real investigation they would have seen the phone records and seen that Anna had called John before the police, they also would know about Annas previous violent history and all her mental problems, they would also know she is a very very intelligent girl the kind of person who could fake something like this, it would also strike the police as odd that John would drug the parents instead of just killing them which would be easier, they would also be able to see when those nude pictures on his laptop were downloaded and probs find it weird they were all downloaded at the same time only a couple days previously. Then add in the fact John had no time to hide a body and then also his version of the story, well most cops would begin to suspect Anna may have faked her death and it's a frame job. The movie just wanted to wrap things up and most people wouldn't be bothered by this little inconsistancy lol.

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[–] DracoDrake 10 years ago

Hehe, funny to read what i was thinking right after my post you write the theory.
On the moment we thought the same i questioned that theory myself as i recall some real crime/disappeared cases that had investigators mislead to other tracks. for example there was case i read from somewhere (tried google couldn't find the artikel) that a boy disappeared while investigators suspected that his farther killed him while actually when he was found 15 months later that he slit his wrist died somewhere in the forest he lived nearby.
Also in my free time i like to read detective novels and recall some weird cases that could apply on this movie.

So could there be a possibility that she intelligently took care of here wound so that it wont leave a track and give her enough time for what reason whatsoever (reach legal age)?! And that investigators still had unfinished case? Is it possible in the USA to accuse suspect of murder while there is no yet a body found (blood on hands, enough)?

For the other things you pointed out. Investigators had only assumption to accuse John of?! Anna calling to John before police doesn't indicate something crucial for me, would you like to shine a light on that thought?
As for Anna she planned it so maybe for John that he tried to overdose her parents with sedatives so that john later could handle her parents? I needed to kill three people i couldn't do it at once without complicated fight?!

Solid point for me you made is the nude photos. As she framed him, investigators pointed out that John had it on is laptop but they could have know that those pictures are the same as what the teacher/Anna has made. Or could it be newer photos that investigator never have seen before?! Anna recalled that she thought it was artistic purpose at first, and that she kept copies?!

Wasn't the case still in progress?

Anyway, i might be over-thinking things but i like to share thoughts of psychological mind of everyone, Thanks for the time to awnser Natsu and others

- Its always difficult to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. Prejusdice always obscures

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[–] Natsu21 10 years ago

It's possibly to accuse someone of murder without a body. But usually in those cases they have enough evidence to prove someone was killed or that the person had something to gain from the other persons death, like an inhertence or life insurance policy. Also Anna only needed to wait till she felt she had covered her tracks well enough that she wouldn't be found, her main focus was to be free nothing else. Also it does seem like the case was on going since they were talking about bail money in the movie, so John hadn't actually been convicted yet.

Her calling John before police arrived would help support a claim that she lured him there. A cop would see it as odd that not to long before she called the police she had contacted John. It would also set up a time frame. Also if there is a way they can show that John answered his phone at home, it would show John would not have had enough time to drive over to Annas drug her parents, wait for the drugs to work and then attack Anna. Also John would still need to drug the parents as well. So how does he have all this time to do all that? Answer is he doesn't.

That is a very good point, those are the same photos the Teacher supposdly took. They were all the same, which is something investigators should have picked up on. It's possible though they went with the line of thought that John found those photos of Anna somehow or she gave them to him. The case against her teacher was already done, the case against John though was still in progress.

Either way even if Anna hadn't revealed she was still alive, a half decent defense attorny could have easily given enough reasonable doubt to the Jury and gotten John off of the charges.

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[–] DracoDrake 10 years ago

Loved your thoughts, so all in all case still in progress and probably the investigators figured out that Anna drugged her parrents.

Now an other question arise to me that i have hard time to figure it out, why misdirection/misleading of Anna to John with Mousey that wasn't who she supposed to be. Cant figure out what would have been beneficial to her.

- Its always difficult to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. Prejudice always obscures

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[–] Natsu21 10 years ago

The case was still in progress. But until Anna sent that photo in showing she was alive, they were still convinced John had done everything.

She needed to manipulate John. She needed him to be on her side so she wouldn't be sent away. Also I think another part of the reason was so she could learn more about mindscaping so she could manipulate her memorys better.

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[–] DracoDrake 10 years ago

Little flaw there indeed now that im think off it. But in my imagination now it could also be interpreted that investigators are miss-leaded for that part of that Anna managed to look like John did it all,. although it didn't make total sense.

So far thanks for your insight, i enjoyed reading it. Luckily there are still intelligent people on this board that think further, cause sometimes my eyes are bleeding of some posters that think so shallow and/or naive...

PS. Was lurking on your profile page for your rating history and reviews, well all i can say nice taste and fair good reviews. Still i missed rating of this movie, im curious now what your final verdict is on this movie?

-Its always difficult to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. Prejudice always obscures

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[–] Natsu21 10 years ago

Thanks. I would rate this movie about a 5 or 6. It did entertain me and was interesting. But overall it wasn't that great. It had potential to be good but it just kind of fell flat.

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[–] DracoDrake 10 years ago

Interesting. I've rated it an 8, at first 7 for minor things i wasnt sure and convinced if you where curious. For me it is solid movie, exept for the minor detail you shared a light on, if it was better written at the end i would rated it a 9. You find probably find my rating absurd xD, anyway everybody his own taste.

-Its always difficult to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. Prejudice always obscures

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[–] Natsu21 10 years ago

Everyone has a different opinion about movies and that's perfectly fine. I've seen plenty of movies that people love and I hated, and I've seen plenty of movies the a lot of people hate but I thought were great. It's always good when you can find a movie that you yourself enjoy, even if others don't.

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[–] lemner 10 years ago

Mousey was her scapegoat for the poisoning of the girls. She was manipulating her own memories to make it seem like there was another girl with motive. John was suspicious, but didn't do enough checking. At that he was smarter than his boss, who said he shouldn't be doing any detective work, just the memory work. She wanted to seem innocent of the main strike against her, and it also gave her a chance to practice making false memories and find out what clues would give her away.

Semper Contendere Propter Amoram et Formam

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[–] kimavallon-953-355581 9 years ago

Well put explanation Natsu21 , thank you so much... this helped greatly to piece it all together for me, thanks!

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[–] Natsu21 9 years ago

Thanks :)

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[–] styo2 10 years ago

i had all the same questions...& this is why the movie sucked.

she went to ALL THAT TROUBLE JUST to leave the house....gimme a break!

me & hubby were both felt "ripped off" that we wasted 2 hrs of our time watching this over rated clunker.

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[–] lemner 10 years ago

She went to all that trouble to leave the house, because they suspected her of attempted murder and being a psychopath, which she basically was. She was probably not going to get her money, but as an adult she would have a better chance free than if she had been locked up while she was still a minor and under the control of her parents.

Looking for a wounded or dead girl in the woods is not the same as looking for a runaway at the bus and train stations, hitchhiking on the highways or at airports. She needed time to make good her escape.

Early on she establishes that she is a logical person, and she mainly seems to only hurt people that have hurt her, although she goes overboard in her revenge, such as poisoning the girls and leaving permanent damage when they only locked her in the closet.

However, she pushed Judith down the stairs, and could have either killed or permanently maimed her by so doing, and Judith cared about her welfare. Her motive was that she needed her out of the way to create her supposedly murdered parents scenario in order to frame John for her murder, so they would think she was dead.

Semper Contendere Propter Amoram et Formam

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